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Game/FAR problems... again
I put up a discussion a few days ago about Far mod problems, in which I was informed how to manually install the mod. My initial problem was that the autoinstaller wasn't working, which is still the case, and initially after manually installing I thought the game ran with the mod without problem. But, when I go to load my save game, the game goes through the entire load screen, the list of programs being checked on the side, you know? and as soon as it reaches the last and should then put me into the game, the entire game crashes. This happens everytime, and I have no idea why. I've tried to figure out the problem by looking at other discussions etc, but I don't really know what it is. Maybe a problem with the save files, or the game itself? the mod appears to be fine, as in the start screen I can pull up the FAR display and all that, but maybe it still is the mod?

Thanks in advance, appreciate the help
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Benito Tortellini Jul 25, 2017 @ 3:53pm 
Originally posted by Aemony:
I honestly don't even know WHY you two have dxcpl available on your system. I assume it's because you have the Windows or DirectX SDK installed on your systems, but... why? It shouldn't be installed unless the both of you are developers actively developing games or software... >_<

I honestly don't remember why I installed that, I'm sure there was a program that I thought I would use or used to use in which I needed it, but I really probably don't need it. I could uninstall it, but idk if that would help the game at all, as the debug layer should be disabled. But, maybe it's not. Also can't think of why FAR seemed to crash the game a few times as mentioned before, and why the game has reverted to crashing just before finishing loading in the save.
Aemony Jul 25, 2017 @ 3:56pm 
No clue either, myself. That's the weirdest issue I've ever heard about. And it happens even without FAR enabled (rename the dinput8.dll file), right? It's a really weird issue all around that really have no reason to happen at all.
Benito Tortellini Jul 25, 2017 @ 4:00pm 
Originally posted by Aemony:
No clue either, myself. That's the weirdest issue I've ever heard about. And it happens even without FAR enabled (rename the dinput8.dll file), right? It's a really weird issue all around that really have no reason to happen at all.

After renaming the dinput8.dll file, the game does not crash, it runs fine but obviously without FAR.
Aemony Jul 25, 2017 @ 4:06pm 
Well, then the issue is with FAR... Perhaps some code was left inside it that is enabled simply by the existence of the SDK or something? If you don't need the SDK (and you don't unless you're an actual developer) I highly recommend uninstalling it and trying the game again with FAR.
Benito Tortellini Jul 25, 2017 @ 4:31pm 
Originally posted by Aemony:
Well, then the issue is with FAR... Perhaps some code was left inside it that is enabled simply by the existence of the SDK or something? If you don't need the SDK (and you don't unless you're an actual developer) I highly recommend uninstalling it and trying the game again with FAR.

Some interesting new information.
After uninstalling dxcpl, instead of launching in 1920x1080, the game launched in 1366x768 or so, and without changing the resulution I loaded the save, and the game loaded fine and I could play, although in the wrong resolution. I go to change the game to 1920x1080, and after I do so the game crashed. After that first time running it, the game launches in 1920x1080, and if I try to load my save as usual it crashes at the end of the load screen. But, I then changed the resolution back to 1366x768 and although it does not look right, the game properly loads the save and I can play the game, and FAR works fine. Therefore, it seems that there must be some problem with FAR and displaying the game in 1920x1080.
Aemony Jul 25, 2017 @ 6:01pm 
Ugh, such a weird issue... Hopefully Kaldaien will have some suggestions, because I'm honestly out of ideas.
blub Jul 25, 2017 @ 7:20pm 
My game wasn't booting up so I tried to fix that, idk if it will work for you too but this is what I did:

Uninstall FAR if you have it, then go to the game files and select properties in the .exe --> Compatibility --> Run Compatibility Troubleshooter and then run the program (You could try to run it as admin too.) If it works, change the compatibility to whatever it was recommended to you, apply it and accept it. Then you can re-install FAR without any problems. I hope this helped :D:
Jules Jul 25, 2017 @ 9:53pm 
Hey, quick stupid question. How in the hell do I uninstall dxcpl? It's not on the list of programs for me. Am I being stupid?
Benito Tortellini Jul 25, 2017 @ 11:14pm 
Originally posted by Lup:
Hey, quick stupid question. How in the hell do I uninstall dxcpl? It's not on the list of programs for me. Am I being stupid?

Just search for it from your start button and enter it in in search programs and files, that will show it
Benito Tortellini Jul 25, 2017 @ 11:20pm 
Originally posted by Kirosama:
My game wasn't booting up so I tried to fix that, idk if it will work for you too but this is what I did:

Uninstall FAR if you have it, then go to the game files and select properties in the .exe --> Compatibility --> Run Compatibility Troubleshooter and then run the program (You could try to run it as admin too.) If it works, change the compatibility to whatever it was recommended to you, apply it and accept it. Then you can re-install FAR without any problems. I hope this helped :D:

I went to the properties, but there was no run compatability troubleshooter, so I set the compatability to windows 7. This was after uninstalling FAR, and afterwards the SKIM64 autoinstaller still fails to work :P
will see if manually installing it and running it with this will change anything
Benito Tortellini Jul 25, 2017 @ 11:33pm 
Originally posted by Kirosama:
My game wasn't booting up so I tried to fix that, idk if it will work for you too but this is what I did:

Uninstall FAR if you have it, then go to the game files and select properties in the .exe --> Compatibility --> Run Compatibility Troubleshooter and then run the program (You could try to run it as admin too.) If it works, change the compatibility to whatever it was recommended to you, apply it and accept it. Then you can re-install FAR without any problems. I hope this helped :D:

finally

I don't know how long it will last or if I'm hallucinating, but the game finally appears to be working!
After doing as you said I was honestly quite doubtful that anything would happen, but now I can load into my save with FAR enabled, and interact with it and everything, change the resolution, go fullscreen and windowed, etc and it all works!
I don't know if what you said to do is what allowed this to work but I can only assume since it's finally running again. The autoinstaller still doesn't work, but I couldn't care less as long as the game works.
Thanks so much for the help, it's been about a week since this hasn't worked now I believe.
Thanks!!!
!!!!
Benito Tortellini Jul 25, 2017 @ 11:37pm 
Originally posted by Lup:
Hey, quick stupid question. How in the hell do I uninstall dxcpl? It's not on the list of programs for me. Am I being stupid?

Hey if you are still having problems Lup, refer to what Kirosama said and change the compatability on the exe file after uninstalling FAR, it seems to have worked for me. I'm not sure if this will last, but currently it seems to run fine.
Hopefully you can get yours fixed as well!
Benito Tortellini Jul 25, 2017 @ 11:46pm 
After doing as Kirosama said and changing the compatability, the game now appears to run fine with the mod in 1920x1080. I started it multiple times to make sure, and it seems to be fine. It may crash again after restarting or something, but at the current moment, it seems to run properly.

I cannot express how thankful I am for the help, there is absolutely no way in any possible reality or universe in which I would have been able to fix this without all the help I recieved from you guys.
I really appreciate that you guys helped me through this, and to the extent that you did, as you easily could have seen this discussion on steam and ignored it. But clearly, you all gave your time to help another out. Really appreciate that.
Although the game is working now, I'm paranoid that it will suddenly stop working again, but if that does happen at least I know there is a very helpful community to solve the problem.
I can finally play this game again!
Thank you so much!
!!!!!
Jules Jul 25, 2017 @ 11:50pm 
Originally posted by Kirosama:
My game wasn't booting up so I tried to fix that, idk if it will work for you too but this is what I did:

Uninstall FAR if you have it, then go to the game files and select properties in the .exe --> Compatibility --> Run Compatibility Troubleshooter and then run the program (You could try to run it as admin too.) If it works, change the compatibility to whatever it was recommended to you, apply it and accept it. Then you can re-install FAR without any problems. I hope this helped :D:

Surprisingly, this actually worked for me too!
I don't know what sort of problem Benito and I experienced, but this workaround helped.
And thanks to Aemony and Kaldaien for actually devoting their time to trying to figure out our problem!
ChaosCVZ Jul 26, 2017 @ 12:28am 
Setting NieRAutomata.exe to run in compatibility mode for windows 7 (using windows 7 OS) seems to have fixed my random CTDs as well.
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