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Kirakishou 2013년 1월 16일 오후 10시 07분
Red tape recorder for TF2= Monkeys with Machine guns.
Hello there, the red tape recorder is insanely overpowered for both casual and competitive play- if there was any kindness in your hearts yous would make it less of a pain for engineers that dare to move 1 meter away from their buildings.
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Earl_the_Red 2013년 2월 9일 오후 1시 54분 
Agreed. This weapon makes it impossible to play engy in pubs, I can't imagine it in competitive play. IT was hard enough holding that gun up, when all you need is 3 demo stickies to blow it...Now you just need ANYONE to pair with the spy. Instant loss
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Kirakishou 2013년 2월 9일 오후 5시 13분 
Earl_the_Red님이 먼저 게시:
Agreed. This weapon makes it impossible to play engy in pubs, I can't imagine it in competitive play. IT was hard enough holding that gun up, when all you need is 3 demo stickies to blow it...Now you just need ANYONE to pair with the spy. Instant loss

I was just playing engi last night, 2 red tape spies+enforcer spy attacked my sentry nest. Sure I killed them, but all my stuff was a level one then I just got rolled by a heavy.
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Zyroxeon 2013년 2월 9일 오후 5시 41분 
Frost Troll님이 먼저 게시:
Earl_the_Red님이 먼저 게시:
Agreed. This weapon makes it impossible to play engy in pubs, I can't imagine it in competitive play. IT was hard enough holding that gun up, when all you need is 3 demo stickies to blow it...Now you just need ANYONE to pair with the spy. Instant loss

I was just playing engi last night, 2 red tape spies+enforcer spy attacked my sentry nest. Sure I killed them, but all my stuff was a level one then I just got rolled by a heavy.
Yeah... that's kinda how it's supposed to work... so you kinda... don't know... lose to the other team?
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Andersen 2013년 2월 9일 오후 5시 47분 
I...i feel bad using RTR....Well i only use it for the cocky engi's...
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Kirakishou 2013년 2월 9일 오후 6시 19분 
I suggest valve lowers the speed of the deleveling and retains any metal stored in dispensers, but also adds that it takes an extra hit to remove the sapper.
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Joey Swashbuckle 2013년 2월 9일 오후 6시 21분 
Here's the thing: it's broken. If it weren't currently, it'd be a LOT more balanced.
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Zyroxeon 2013년 2월 9일 오후 6시 23분 
didn't valve say something about increasing the deleveling time but it never got put in?
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Joey Swashbuckle 2013년 2월 9일 오후 6시 34분 
Zyroxeon님이 먼저 게시:
didn't valve say something about increasing the deleveling time but it never got put in?
They DID fix it, but the fix never actually worked.
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Zyroxeon 2013년 2월 9일 오후 6시 42분 
The Crit-Magnet Brony님이 먼저 게시:
Zyroxeon님이 먼저 게시:
didn't valve say something about increasing the deleveling time but it never got put in?
They DID fix it, but the fix never actually worked.
I see

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Octavia 2013년 2월 9일 오후 6시 50분 
The Crit-Magnet Brony님이 먼저 게시:
They DID fix it, but the fix never actually worked.

Actually, I believe the fix did end up applying itself to Teleporters, but not Sentries or Dispensers; I'm not sure if the Metal drain for Dispensers was supposed to be fixed, but it certainly wasn't. The thing has been prone to glitches for quite some time, and considering the severity of the glitches, I'm surprised they still exist.

Playing as an Engineer against even a single Spy who uses this is incredibly frustrating, particularly if the enemy team has any sort of coordination. I'm dissapointed that Valve still hasn't fixed this weapon, since it clearly needs to be fixed in order for Engineers to have a chance against a Red Tape Recorder Spy.
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Zyroxeon 2013년 2월 9일 오후 6시 52분 
Red-Tape Recorder IS the sort of weapon that would have a lot of bugs.
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Joey Swashbuckle 2013년 2월 9일 오후 6시 53분 
Really? I thought the fix didn't work at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3rhQc666Sg
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Kirakishou 2013년 2월 9일 오후 7시 36분 
It doesn't. One of the only reasons why it is still around is because it's a promo item. I have not heard of a single promo item being removed.
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Nuclear Kangaroo 2013년 2월 10일 오전 7시 27분 
Frost Troll님이 먼저 게시:
It doesn't. One of the only reasons why it is still around is because it's a promo item. I have not heard of a single promo item being removed.

no item has ever been removed from the game (except for season crates and keys), even the original hats and salvaged crates still exist, they just dont drop anymore
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ADP 2013년 2월 10일 오전 7시 31분 
I might be a bit of an idiot, but why does the RTR equal Monkeys with Machine Guns?
Anyways, it would be fine if Valve had fixed the degrade speed properly.
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