Team Fortress 2
Eyegoblin 2014년 3월 27일 오전 10시 55분
cloak and dagger buff
the C&D really needs a buff so:

ok i thought of another buff for it
+ slightly slower cloak drain while jumping/falling
-0.5 sec (de)cloak speed
(maybbe a more silencer cloak/decloak)
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BODKIN 2014년 3월 27일 오전 10시 57분 
Is it me or does this watch never run out of cloak? I mean it doesnt for me! I can run around as long as Im careful to not glow BLU or RED and never run out of cloak
BODKIN 2014년 3월 27일 오전 10시 59분 
^this makes it great for 2fort or sneaking past a huge battle. just crouch and walk the whole way through like metal gear solid. Get behind the enemies, then disguise and uncloak and you look just like an enemy. Or grab the intel and run like the wind!
Check Your Privilege 2014년 3월 27일 오전 11시 48분 
Yea, C&D is unlimited cloak for those true sneaky sneaks, if you don't appreciate that use a different watch
BODKIN 2014년 3월 27일 오전 11시 59분 
Justin Kayse님이 먼저 게시:
Yea, C&D is unlimited cloak for those true sneaky sneaks, if you don't appreciate that use a different watch

which is why most people dont like it. because most dont spy, they just trickstab and crap
BODKIN 2014년 3월 27일 오후 12시 01분 
look at meet the spy, thats how he should be played
loyal to the swag 2014년 3월 27일 오후 12시 03분 
Because it's drain faster and you can't get battery from ammo and dispenser
ShenanAgain 2014년 3월 27일 오후 12시 17분 
The Emerald Archer님이 먼저 게시:
look at meet the spy, thats how he should be played
Sliding sappers, martial arts, and friendly fire on?
Mr.Tickles the 1st 2014년 3월 27일 오후 12시 18분 
C&D is just fine as is.
FaelisongTalim 2014년 3월 27일 오후 12시 44분 
What's preventing the majority of the players from using C&D is Invisibility watch's aggresiveness. You literally can walk out of spawn, cloak, get behind the enemy lines, and annihilate. Whilst Deadringer can have the same effect, most enemies of veteran experience will not be fooled easily, especially when they see an Engineer die to a single Minigun bullet. Either way, C&D may focus more on actually being stealthy or survivability, whilst Invis watch focuses more on Aggresive and risky playstyle.

Personally, I'd use C&D very similarly to Deadringer. Nothing will spook a team more than the realization that a Spy is still alive in their enemy lines.
Mr.Tickles the 1st 2014년 3월 27일 오후 1시 20분 
Leeevog님이 먼저 게시:
What's preventing the majority of the players from using C&D is Invisibility watch's aggresiveness. You literally can walk out of spawn, cloak, get behind the enemy lines, and annihilate. Whilst Deadringer can have the same effect, most enemies of veteran experience will not be fooled easily, especially when they see an Engineer die to a single Minigun bullet. Either way, C&D may focus more on actually being stealthy or survivability, whilst Invis watch focuses more on Aggresive and risky playstyle.

Personally, I'd use C&D very similarly to Deadringer. Nothing will spook a team more than the realization that a Spy is still alive in their enemy lines.


I prefer the stock watch over all for one reason. I can stay invisible indefinitely AND move. C&D forces you to stay put all to often for my taste and slows game play down.
Amelia 2014년 3월 27일 오후 1시 23분 
C&D is fine, I use it to asset the situation and few my surroundings in a sneakier manner.
Ace42 2014년 3월 27일 오후 1시 49분 
Mawile (Darkanine)님이 먼저 게시:
C&D is fine, I use it to asset the situation and few my surroundings in a sneakier manner.

Gah, some many noobie spies say this...
If you just want to be a voyeur, go Spectator and you can view the WHOLE FREAKIN' BATTLEFIELD quickly and with absolutely no risk; AND you can instantly then switch to Spy and start contributing with a better choice of watch instead of stuck hiding all the round.
Check Your Privilege 2014년 3월 27일 오후 1시 51분 
Ace42님이 먼저 게시:
Pointless complaining, misspellings and name calling
It's not the same, Spectators aren't part of the game
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BODKIN 2014년 3월 27일 오후 1시 53분 
Drekonil님이 먼저 게시:
Because it's drain faster and you can't get battery from ammo and dispenser

it might drain faster but it never runs out

people dont know this apprently

it literally never runs out. go use it and see for yourself
BODKIN 2014년 3월 27일 오후 1시 55분 
Ace42님이 먼저 게시:
Mawile (Darkanine)님이 먼저 게시:
C&D is fine, I use it to asset the situation and few my surroundings in a sneakier manner.

Gah, some many noobie spies say this...
If you just want to be a voyeur, go Spectator and you can view the WHOLE FREAKIN' BATTLEFIELD quickly and with absolutely no risk; AND you can instantly then switch to Spy and start contributing with a better choice of watch instead of stuck hiding all the round.

.....the CnD never runs out of cloak.......even when running
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