The crossbow is way to powerful, easy to use and to supply with ammo

[c]

The crossbow is way to powerful, easy to use and to supply with ammo considering how difficult it is to get actual guns working.
It is basically a suppressed sniper rifle with 10-40 half-complete rounds lying in every birds nest.

It should have some disadvantages, like being less accurate than firearms and feathers should be rarer.

[Drake Whitewolf]

Before alpha 9, the bow was a bit unacurate, had to aim to the left a little to get a good shot. In fact, it has been proven that a crossbow can be even deadler that a rifle. Some marksmans can hit a target better that a rifle or gun. I seen a video once where a bow expert was able to out shoot a marine sniper with his cross bow. 200 yards, the crossbow hit the target better then the marine could. I was impressed. As for the fethers, a simple way to fix that is to turn your loot % down. try 35% that may provide more of a chalange for you. Also, more people like using the crossbow for it is silent, even with the sniper rifle, the zombies can here the shot. The crossbow is silent and less noise you make, the less likely you will atrack attention. But that is my opion. I also noticed that the kill is not as realistic on the deers or elks and the pigs. It takes so many shots to kill them 4 to 5 hits. I have killed elk before with one shot from a bow before, droped him in his tracks. Could use a little tuning in that part I think.

[Relendis]

I think it should almost be skillbook worthy, they aren't the easiest thing to make. Hell, even a bow should technically be easier then a crossbow to make, if not fire...could be a good progression for the makeshift weapons: Thrown rock -> Rudimentary Sling -> Bow -> Crossbow

[Peter Pan]

Once they add in RPG and stats, they could lower the crossbow damage, and to increase it you need to put points into the crossbow skill tree.

[McCall]

The power of the Crossbow is okay. Do you want give an Zombie 4 headshots with the Crossbow to kill it? I only make headshot with it and an arrow has more power than a 9mm bullet, because the arrow is a little bigger than the bullet^^

[Rei'No Otoko]

Its not to powerful its slower then a gun and I'd say its based off the walking dead series and head shots there are always one shot one kill, if your good enough, which I 'm not it takes me several to kill one zombie..

realy just a birds nest , so you only need feathers and an egg.. I have to chop a tree or collect sticks and find and sharpen rocks

[The Juggling Hamster]

I like the crossbow the way it is. You can't make feathers, you can only find them.

[Peter Pan]

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I like the crossbow the way it is. You can't make feathers, you can only find them.

I am of a different mind with regards to this.

I prefered if arrows were weaker, but unlimited.

I don't have a peace of mind using guns because of the sinking feeling that I could run out of ammunition. I would invest in the future crossbow tree.

[BigRowdy]

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Първоначално публикувано от Relendis:

I think it should almost be skillbook worthy, they aren't the easiest thing to make. Hell, even a bow should technically be easier then a crossbow to make, if not fire...could be a good progression for the makeshift weapons: Thrown rock -> Rudimentary Sling -> Bow -> Crossbow

[c]

Do the test yourself, search a 100x100m square in the forest for crossbow bolt materials, you will probably assemble 30-50 bolts. And the crossbow now surpasses any other ranged weapon except for firing rate. it is dead accurate, silent, powerful.

None of which a real world crossbow is. If crossbows were that accurate in real life, the military would use them instead of rifles. Also the accuracy should be way lower and degrade heavily after 20m, because a homeless survivor with no skills would not be able to create a crossbow, let alone one of olympic precision. And Daryl Dixon in the Walking dead only uses it because the writer thought it would look cool to have one. A regular pistol is supreme to a crossbow in every way, except for the noise.

With the current advantages of it, one might as well leave sniper rifle parts and ammo lying around like crossbow ammo, and you can bet players would still use the crossbow over a sniper rifle, because it is silent

[Jolly]

It's powerful if you're good with it, but it's only a single shot weapon and not something you can use in a less ideal situation than having all day to line up head shots.

[c]

No, its powerful if you are able to point your view at something, its that simple, point and click shoot, No disadvantages of a real crossbow (being a near useless weapon in todays world because its primitive, unwieldly, hard to reload.)

[Ix Sioux]

I vote leave the feather drop rate as is. In previous versions of this game the feathers were so rare and they only yeilded one bolt each instead of the current x5 per feather. I much prefer this current state. If ANYTHING must change its the fact that there is ZERO drop to the arrow after firing. I think that is what is needed to balance the Xbow vs Rifles. If the arrow dropped over several meeters it would no longer trump the rifles in usefulness and accuracy. Xbows would be short/medium range + silent and rifles would be medium/long range loud.

[Michael Lemmons]

I think that ballistics are one of the things that are in the works; eventually, the trajectory of the arrow will arc at least somewhat realistically. Also bullet drop.

You want hilarious crossbow effects? Find one in another game like this one: Unturned. The crossbow there is also pinpoint accurate, and it's hitscan, but they also have a modeled arrow. So you fire the bow, the zombie drops, then the arrow makes its slow, leisure way over to the corpse.

[Fuzzy]

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Do the test yourself, search a 100x100m square in the forest for crossbow bolt materials, you will probably assemble 30-50 bolts. And the crossbow now surpasses any other ranged weapon except for firing rate. it is dead accurate, silent, powerful.

None of which a real world crossbow is.

Ahh, selective realism again.

Hey, while you're at it, add up the total weight of every single item you carry in-game, including each one in a stack. Let me know if you can carry that much in 'real life'..

(For starters.. I'll leave out the rest of the 'holes' in the realism idea for now, lol)

*Edit: I should add, I like the crossbow and most other features in-game right now. I'm just toying with this 'selective realism' idea some people have. :p

[Aragon]

Well...for me its ok. About the crossbow. Good against single targets or very small groups, useless against bigger groups or at night against zed's cuz the reload delay.
Leave the crossbow like it is now.