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KleinerBaer 28 okt 2013 om 5:10vm
Why do you use suppressors on primaries?
I thought about it and I don't really see the benefit.
In my mind I have a silenced pistol to kill during stealth. The primary I will only need for a fight. But then I won't need a suppressor. Now I know there is a ghost skill that compensates the damage loss. But you do not need that skill either if you do not use the suppressor in the first place.
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[Zoom] giga 28 okt 2013 om 5:12vm 
+1
VeeEight 28 okt 2013 om 5:14vm 
Using a suppressor on a primary may be desired if you own something with a partucularly high DPS. You see, the handguns without the damage buff you get from the Mastermind tier are rather weak, and a supressor does nothing but cut into that. So why not suppress a weapon that's already 'strong'? This is only a good idea when you are expecting stealth to go wrong, like in pubs. Otherwise, throw the can on a handgun and call it quits.
Hades 28 okt 2013 om 5:15vm 
If you specc for extra dmg with silenced weapons(ghost tree), there are weapons that do more damage silenced then not silenced.
KleinerBaer 28 okt 2013 om 5:21vm 
so if you put on the big suppressor and have the silent killer aced then you do more damage than with firebreather?
Which weapon is that?
Hades 28 okt 2013 om 5:24vm 
Usually all weapons with a high base dmg. For example M308 and the M16. The big suppressor reduces dmg by 5, but the ghost skill increases dmg with a percentage. So for high base dmg weapons alot more than 5 dmg get added. Additionally you can have a chance to pierce through armor with another skill.
Alpia 28 okt 2013 om 5:25vm 
I use a silencer on the IZHMA to blow guards out of bad spots to answer the pager.
MIner0o1 28 okt 2013 om 5:26vm 
In like to use a silent primary because it makes the weapon sometimes smaller (the stealth barrel) or simply because you can kill easier multiple targets. Oh and you can't accidently fire a loud shot and ruin stealth.
KleinerBaer 28 okt 2013 om 5:26vm 
Well, if you equip the suppressor you cannot equip the firebreather anymore. So you loose quite more of the max. possible damage. Using suppressor + skill brings you back to where you would have been with firebreather and no skill.
KleinerBaer 28 okt 2013 om 5:27vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Alpia:
I use a silencer on the IZHMA to blow guards out of bad spots to answer the pager.
+1 :D
KleinerBaer 28 okt 2013 om 5:29vm 
Origineel geplaatst door MIner0o1:
In like to use a silent primary because it makes the weapon sometimes smaller (the stealth barrel) or simply because you can kill easier multiple targets. Oh and you can't accidently fire a loud shot and ruin stealth. :spycon:
the Car-4 and Compact-5 gain even more concealment if you use the short barrel instead of the stealth barrel.
I use a silenced Pistol.
MIner0o1 28 okt 2013 om 5:30vm 
Origineel geplaatst door =T$E= KleinerBaer:
Origineel geplaatst door MIner0o1:
In like to use a silent primary because it makes the weapon sometimes smaller (the stealth barrel) or simply because you can kill easier multiple targets. Oh and you can't accidently fire a loud shot and ruin stealth.
the Car-4 and Compact-5 gain even more concealment if you use the short barrel instead of the stealth barrel.
I use a silenced Pistol.
yeah but then it is not silent.
VeeEight 28 okt 2013 om 5:33vm 
Origineel geplaatst door MIner0o1:
Origineel geplaatst door =T$E= KleinerBaer:
the Car-4 and Compact-5 gain even more concealment if you use the short barrel instead of the stealth barrel.
I use a silenced Pistol.
yeah but then it is not silent.
You can throw a low profile on top of the Car-4 with a short barrel.
KleinerBaer 28 okt 2013 om 5:34vm 
Which brings me back to the question: why does your primary have to be silent? I assume you already have a silenced secondary? So as long as you do not switch to your primary you can't even fire a loud shot by accident.
I just think one silenced weapon is sufficient for stealth?
I am really curious because seeing so many players with silenced primaries I fell like I am missing something here.

So far I heard that someone silenced the primary because it is more powerful. So he cuts his max. damage and has medium damage on both guns.
That makes sense. But I personally wouldn't do it because I mainly use primary and need highest damage.
MrTauntaun 28 okt 2013 om 5:34vm 
Almost all primaries will do more damage while silenced if you have the ghost skills. The 308 comes to mind. If it has a high base damage, it will do more silenced if you use the large supressors.
MIner0o1 28 okt 2013 om 5:36vm 
Origineel geplaatst door Strategist:
Origineel geplaatst door MIner0o1:
yeah but then it is not silent.
You can throw a low profile on top of the Car-4 with a short barrel.
And then it has more concealment as only the stealth barrel? Interesting.
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