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KleinerBaer 28 октомври 2013 в 5:10сут.
Why do you use suppressors on primaries?
I thought about it and I don't really see the benefit.
In my mind I have a silenced pistol to kill during stealth. The primary I will only need for a fight. But then I won't need a suppressor. Now I know there is a ghost skill that compensates the damage loss. But you do not need that skill either if you do not use the suppressor in the first place.
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[Zoom] giga 28 октомври 2013 в 5:12сут. 
+1
VeeEight 28 октомври 2013 в 5:14сут. 
Using a suppressor on a primary may be desired if you own something with a partucularly high DPS. You see, the handguns without the damage buff you get from the Mastermind tier are rather weak, and a supressor does nothing but cut into that. So why not suppress a weapon that's already 'strong'? This is only a good idea when you are expecting stealth to go wrong, like in pubs. Otherwise, throw the can on a handgun and call it quits.
Hades 28 октомври 2013 в 5:15сут. 
If you specc for extra dmg with silenced weapons(ghost tree), there are weapons that do more damage silenced then not silenced.
KleinerBaer 28 октомври 2013 в 5:21сут. 
so if you put on the big suppressor and have the silent killer aced then you do more damage than with firebreather?
Which weapon is that?
Hades 28 октомври 2013 в 5:24сут. 
Usually all weapons with a high base dmg. For example M308 and the M16. The big suppressor reduces dmg by 5, but the ghost skill increases dmg with a percentage. So for high base dmg weapons alot more than 5 dmg get added. Additionally you can have a chance to pierce through armor with another skill.
Alpia 28 октомври 2013 в 5:25сут. 
I use a silencer on the IZHMA to blow guards out of bad spots to answer the pager.
MIner0o1 28 октомври 2013 в 5:26сут. 
In like to use a silent primary because it makes the weapon sometimes smaller (the stealth barrel) or simply because you can kill easier multiple targets. Oh and you can't accidently fire a loud shot and ruin stealth.
KleinerBaer 28 октомври 2013 в 5:26сут. 
Well, if you equip the suppressor you cannot equip the firebreather anymore. So you loose quite more of the max. possible damage. Using suppressor + skill brings you back to where you would have been with firebreather and no skill.
KleinerBaer 28 октомври 2013 в 5:27сут. 
Първоначално публикувано от Alpia:
I use a silencer on the IZHMA to blow guards out of bad spots to answer the pager.
+1 :D
KleinerBaer 28 октомври 2013 в 5:29сут. 
Първоначално публикувано от MIner0o1:
In like to use a silent primary because it makes the weapon sometimes smaller (the stealth barrel) or simply because you can kill easier multiple targets. Oh and you can't accidently fire a loud shot and ruin stealth. :spycon:
the Car-4 and Compact-5 gain even more concealment if you use the short barrel instead of the stealth barrel.
I use a silenced Pistol.
MIner0o1 28 октомври 2013 в 5:30сут. 
Първоначално публикувано от =T$E= KleinerBaer:
Първоначално публикувано от MIner0o1:
In like to use a silent primary because it makes the weapon sometimes smaller (the stealth barrel) or simply because you can kill easier multiple targets. Oh and you can't accidently fire a loud shot and ruin stealth.
the Car-4 and Compact-5 gain even more concealment if you use the short barrel instead of the stealth barrel.
I use a silenced Pistol.
yeah but then it is not silent.
VeeEight 28 октомври 2013 в 5:33сут. 
Първоначално публикувано от MIner0o1:
Първоначално публикувано от =T$E= KleinerBaer:
the Car-4 and Compact-5 gain even more concealment if you use the short barrel instead of the stealth barrel.
I use a silenced Pistol.
yeah but then it is not silent.
You can throw a low profile on top of the Car-4 with a short barrel.
KleinerBaer 28 октомври 2013 в 5:34сут. 
Which brings me back to the question: why does your primary have to be silent? I assume you already have a silenced secondary? So as long as you do not switch to your primary you can't even fire a loud shot by accident.
I just think one silenced weapon is sufficient for stealth?
I am really curious because seeing so many players with silenced primaries I fell like I am missing something here.

So far I heard that someone silenced the primary because it is more powerful. So he cuts his max. damage and has medium damage on both guns.
That makes sense. But I personally wouldn't do it because I mainly use primary and need highest damage.
MrTauntaun 28 октомври 2013 в 5:34сут. 
Almost all primaries will do more damage while silenced if you have the ghost skills. The 308 comes to mind. If it has a high base damage, it will do more silenced if you use the large supressors.
MIner0o1 28 октомври 2013 в 5:36сут. 
Първоначално публикувано от Strategist:
Първоначално публикувано от MIner0o1:
yeah but then it is not silent.
You can throw a low profile on top of the Car-4 with a short barrel.
And then it has more concealment as only the stealth barrel? Interesting.
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