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Prophesy of Pendor v3.9.5
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steriml (swe) Dec 21, 2020 @ 3:14am
Crossbows underpowered?
So, the strongest crossbow in the game, the mettenheim arbalest gets easily beaten by bows like hawkstorm bow, hornbow or ebon bow if it doesn't one shot the enemy. With full +4 power draw bonus and decent arrows, the bows can 2 shot pretty much all but the most heavily armored enemies.

The problem is that the crossbow won't one shot enemies with 40 - 50 body armor and 70 - 80 health and has pretty much half the rate of fire of the bows, if not even worse, and the bows can be used on horseback. Then when you start to consider hit probability, it gets even worse.

If the enemies are far away and your troops hit 1/5 shots, the bows will win even if they have to hit an enemy 3 times and the crossbow only 2 times thanks to the superb rate of fire.

The same thing goes for the arquebus. It has the same problem and gets completely outclassed.
Then, when you start to compare them to the top tier noldor bow, it's just sad.

If you developer(s) intended it to be this way I respect that. It's your mod and you can do whatever you want.

But in my opinion, the crossbows and the arquebus deserves a buff to damage or rate of fire to make them at least a little bit competitive.
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CptZhu Feb 22, 2021 @ 2:55am 
Crossbows are excellent besiegers/ defenders.
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steriml (swe) Feb 22, 2021 @ 3:32am 
Originally posted by Levi Ackerman:
Crossbows are excellent besiegers/ defenders.
Care to elaborate? How are they better than bowmen?
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CptZhu Feb 22, 2021 @ 6:21am 
more ammo, more accurate, better alpha damage/one shot capability
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steriml (swe) Feb 23, 2021 @ 1:45am 
Originally posted by Levi Ackerman:
more ammo, more accurate, better alpha damage/one shot capability
Lets compare the ravenstern ranger to the empire armored crossbowman.
The ranger has a long composite bow. The crossbowman has a siege crossbow.
So, the crossbowman has 1 more accuracy and with hes steel bolts + 4 more ammo.
The ranger has 30 more proficiency, so that 1 accuracy bonus is negligible.
Sure, the siege crossbow has way higher damage and it will one shot recruits. But so will the ranger thanks to hes 6 points in power draw.
The crossbow won't one shot medium - high tier troops because of their armor and health. They will take 2 shots from both the crossbow and the bow and the bow has way higher rate of fire, so it will kill people faster.
In sieges, bowmen will kill enemy bowmen faster than if you had crossbowmen, resulting in the enemy will not get as many arrows off at your troops and you will have less casualties.
Then if you create a custom knighthood order and give your troops the noldor composite bow, no crossbow even comes close.

TLDR: Crossbows take too long to kill people.
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