Cities: Skylines

Cities: Skylines

Metro Overhaul Mod (MOM)
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sniggledigit  [developer] Jul 10, 2019 @ 8:41pm
Version 9.0 features and discussion
-Quad Tracks: Now you can build a 4 track solution (two way only)
-Above ground station converter allows you to change an entire station or individual tracks between Train and Metro tracks. For metro, allows tracks to be set as Modern or Classic.
-Added an assortment of pillars including Wide, Wide Median, Narrow, and Narrow Median.
-All new UI
-All new Stations proudly presented by BadPeanut
-Over road friendly option allows for easy dragging of MOM tracks over roads
-Express Stations are 4 track stations with platforms on the outer 2 tracks
-Dual Island Stations are 4 track stations with 2 island platforms servicing all 4 tracks.
-Added lighting to underground stations.
-Removed Prefab Hook dependency
-Fixed multiple issues surrounding first time city loads with the mod installed
-Moved Track Size buttons as selectors in the Metro Tabstrip
-Update track costs
-Various other miscellaneous bug fixes
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WebSoak Jul 16, 2019 @ 9:52pm 
oof ok
jshutich Jul 16, 2019 @ 10:55pm 
Been playing with the MOM 9.0 for a while now. I do occasionally need to redo a section of track and sometimes after deleted said track section, the new track will not have the pillars. When this happens the further back I go deleting track and trying to add it back the more track I end up with without pillars.

I have found that when this happens, just stop, save your game at that point. Exit completely out of City Skylines. Restart City Skylines and build your track, problem solved.

BadPeanut  [developer] Jul 17, 2019 @ 12:04am 
Originally posted by jshutich:
Been playing with the MOM 9.0 for a while now. I do occasionally need to redo a section of track and sometimes after deleted said track section, the new track will not have the pillars. When this happens the further back I go deleting track and trying to add it back the more track I end up with without pillars.

I have found that when this happens, just stop, save your game at that point. Exit completely out of City Skylines. Restart City Skylines and build your track, problem solved.
we're looking into some mod incompatibilities reported over the last few days to see if we can get rid of any trouble
jshutich Jul 17, 2019 @ 2:50am 
Same trick applied to a new station I added for a new residential area. just rerouted the track that was passing by to go thru the new station. Two existing lines I added the new stop to the lines.

I started adding a new line starting at a different station. It went around thru the industrial area and on the way back to the starting station I went thru the newly added station. Weird I could not add a stop at it but the line did go thru the station to complete the line at the starting station two stations away.

Save the game, quit and restart. Added the stop no problem. Hmmm....
Last edited by jshutich; Jul 17, 2019 @ 2:51am
WebSoak Jul 17, 2019 @ 10:35am 
@Lazarus*Man Thank you for taking the time to read my comment and reply. I also want to apologize for mixing up Boston with Chicago. I will drop the topic of three lane tracks after this but I wanted to give another point. Lets do authenticity, most people don't realize that quad tracks are also not really a thing outside of New York City. When ever I show someone a map of NYC's subway who lives outside of it, most don't understand what this "express stuff" is. Any cities that have 4 lane express service like NYC don't tend to have more than one line. Next, Functionality. Quad tracks in cities skylines in many cases function like 3 lane tracks anyway. The AI of pathfinding causes the subway trains to merge tracks anyway when it sees a faster route, even by no real time, in many cases the tracks to loose functionality in many cases without external mods.
Of course I can still understand that even though quad tracks don't really exist outside NYC, they still work as an upgrade to duel tracks. I will drop the topic of three lane tracks from here so I don't give you a headache off it. But there is actually something specifically from MTA I would like to see. (reply to 5->) As someone who lives in NYC, I use the subway all time. One thing I have noticed is the box style of subway stations. Nearly all of the subway stations in NYC feature of a box design. The current design of the subway stations is rather rounded. I would like to see a box option that is like the style in NYC. Thanks for taking the time to read this again! Have a nice day.
WebSoak Jul 17, 2019 @ 12:24pm 
@Lazarus*Man Sorry for not putting this in the other comment, but another MTA feature that would be cool to add is stacked underground stations. Like the ones along the 3 and 4 lines between Kingston Avenue and Utica Avenue, and the A C B D between 72 St and 96 St. They are basically two stacked tunnels that where if you cut a cut track across the center and stacked them. One side of the tunnel has the platform, the other has the express track. For reference search any of those stops on google. "Crown Heights Utica Avenue" for reference of an express stop. Alright I'll stop spamming now.
Seth Jul 17, 2019 @ 4:41pm 
I'm currently following the troubleshooting steps as outlined on the mod description but am getting the following message (see below) once I load my almost-completely Vanilla game. Is it possible to have a list of the specific asset names that need to be enabled as I currently have all assets created by BadPeanut and Lazarus*Man enabled.

Broken assets:

Custom Assets: 1703048997.Elevated Station_Data: NetInfo missing [BrokenAssetException]

Details:
No details

After checking my transportation section the Standard Elevated Station is missing.
BadPeanut  [developer] Jul 17, 2019 @ 7:04pm 
Originally posted by Seth:
I'm currently following the troubleshooting steps as outlined on the mod description but am getting the following message (see below) once I load my almost-completely Vanilla game. Is it possible to have a list of the specific asset names that need to be enabled as I currently have all assets created by BadPeanut and Lazarus*Man enabled.

Broken assets:

Custom Assets: 1703048997.Elevated Station_Data: NetInfo missing [BrokenAssetException]

Details:
No details

After checking my transportation section the Standard Elevated Station is missing.
well clearly you haven't followed the steps that well because you haven't subscribed to and turned on one of the required items, namely the ETST mod....

there's a collection linked in the description that tells you everything you need.
Last edited by BadPeanut; Jul 17, 2019 @ 7:05pm
BadPeanut  [developer] Jul 17, 2019 @ 7:09pm 
Originally posted by The 5th Key:
@Lazarus*Man Thank you for taking the time to read my comment and reply. I also want to apologize for mixing up Boston with Chicago. I will drop the topic of three lane tracks after this but I wanted to give another point. Lets do authenticity, most people don't realize that quad tracks are also not really a thing outside of New York City. When ever I show someone a map of NYC's subway who lives outside of it, most don't understand what this "express stuff" is. Any cities that have 4 lane express service like NYC don't tend to have more than one line. Next, Functionality. Quad tracks in cities skylines in many cases function like 3 lane tracks anyway. The AI of pathfinding causes the subway trains to merge tracks anyway when it sees a faster route, even by no real time, in many cases the tracks to loose functionality in many cases without external mods.
Of course I can still understand that even though quad tracks don't really exist outside NYC, they still work as an upgrade to duel tracks. I will drop the topic of three lane tracks from here so I don't give you a headache off it. But there is actually something specifically from MTA I would like to see. (reply to 5->) As someone who lives in NYC, I use the subway all time. One thing I have noticed is the box style of subway stations. Nearly all of the subway stations in NYC feature of a box design. The current design of the subway stations is rather rounded. I would like to see a box option that is like the style in NYC. Thanks for taking the time to read this again! Have a nice day.
mate there's no point pushing a point that's already been answered. It comes down to time and management - why bother implementing something that is so similar to a 4 track network when we could be added something totally new? like modularity or something big. All this does is take time away from better spent things.

The answer you got is still a hopeful one IMO you didn't get a "no this isn't happening" just a "it probably won't happen" and that's because of the time management thing.

Hope you understand but we can't fulfill every single individuals request. Hopefully we can instead of spending time on a specific track type YOU want, we can spend time on making MOM compatible with the asset editor so YOU can make the track you want, as can anyone else :)
powerfulpork Jul 18, 2019 @ 8:58am 
i have a problem with the quadtrack, when my train depart from a double track station it only uses the outter tracks of the quads, since i want to use a faster train on center track as express trains but it does not seem to be working. how could i set up the quadtrack properly? thanks
Marmiki Jul 18, 2019 @ 1:56pm 
Would it be possible to reupload the old default stations (Classic ground metro, Classic elevated metro), at least temporarily? I had a couple of them in my city and now they've dissappeared. The Loading Screen Mod reports them as missing and I'm afraid it's going to break something further down the line.

Or any advice on an alternative course of action? Thanks
BadPeanut  [developer] Jul 18, 2019 @ 6:34pm 
Originally posted by powerfulpork:
i have a problem with the quadtrack, when my train depart from a double track station it only uses the outter tracks of the quads, since i want to use a faster train on center track as express trains but it does not seem to be working. how could i set up the quadtrack properly? thanks
Please do me the courtesy of reading the description and finding the detailed guide linked there.
BadPeanut  [developer] Jul 18, 2019 @ 6:35pm 
Originally posted by Marmiki:
Would it be possible to reupload the old default stations (Classic ground metro, Classic elevated metro), at least temporarily? I had a couple of them in my city and now they've dissappeared. The Loading Screen Mod reports them as missing and I'm afraid it's going to break something further down the line.

Or any advice on an alternative course of action? Thanks
They were only hidden from the workshop so without user intervention they wouldn't have been unsubscribed. I will not be reuploading them no, but relax as they won't cause any problems, aside from disappearing in game and needing to be replaced.
「H i n a o m i」 Jul 19, 2019 @ 10:22am 
Is it possible to have an option to make Over-Road Friendly ticked by default? It's sometimes annoying that I have to tick it every time I build Over-Road tracks.

Still, this is a great mod, it can still be improve and I enjoy and love the concept!
Marmiki Jul 19, 2019 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by BadPeanut:
Originally posted by Marmiki:
Would it be possible to reupload the old default stations (Classic ground metro, Classic elevated metro), at least temporarily? I had a couple of them in my city and now they've dissappeared. The Loading Screen Mod reports them as missing and I'm afraid it's going to break something further down the line.

Or any advice on an alternative course of action? Thanks
They were only hidden from the workshop so without user intervention they wouldn't have been unsubscribed. I will not be reuploading them no, but relax as they won't cause any problems, aside from disappearing in game and needing to be replaced.

Indeed, the stations were there initially, but I reinstalled the entire game including the workshop content because I had some problems after the MOM update (still investigating - will keep you posted). Still, that's good to hear. I was afraid that since you have problems opening some of the troubleshooting saves that contain custom assets, I might get similar problem because of the missing stations.
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