https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1822165469

Ok, Lets start from first again.

Required MOM 9.0 Only.

I Cleanup All Mod and reboot my system.
Only used MOM 9.0 and related things(like advenced platform selection, Extra train station track)
Also used unlock all mod to build airport.

There are only two lines.

one is shorter and inside metro station in airport to city center,
another is longer and outside metro station from airport to city center.

people never use inside metro station in airport.

after load this city, one airplane is taxing before arriving, so stop time quickly, and watch 2 metro lines. it is so simple.

p.s : i realized that i didn't make metro depo, but i think this is not a problem. there are no running metro just(no affect in path finding algorithm), people never waiting at airport metro station.
and also people waiting or enter outside metro station from airport.
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i don't have any intention that i am ignoring you. if you feel bad i am so sorry.
in this save file i represent only one bug. there are also other bug in video.
for me, writing in english, and also speak(in video) is really hard work, so I am knackered....
i can't give two other bug examples more. too hard to me. sorry.
so just forgot this threads is also ok. and won't fix this is also ok.
thanks. bye.

p.s : also checked game file validation in steam. i just not write in content.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1826880939
I'm sorry to take up your time. This is the save data in vanilla, apart from the assets and MODs related to MOM, according to the troubleshooting procedure.

The problem is here, If you click on the subway station icon, the mouse cursor is not changed to the station figure and the time in the game stops (frozen, but I can click other buttons)
Ah, the ghost mode is off, of course.
It appears when i try MOM to set off and restart the game.

I'm sorry, but could you check if the same thing happens in your environment?
Btw, this may not be relevant, but I recently updated May 2019 Update 1903 for windows 10.
Thanks in advance.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1829129705

So, I disabled all other mods apart from MOM and MOM-related items. What's been happening for me is that sometimes the vanilla multitrack station will show like 20 selections for the dual tracks to change as opposed to the normal 6 in the MOM converter window. Then the station converter will sometimes now show at all. Once in a while with other mods enabled, it'll actually freeze leaving me only a cursor with a small box/building icon and not allow me to do anything including save/exit properly. That particular issue hasn't been duplicated yet in game without the other mods enabled, so I'll have to figure out what's causing the issue. Posted here in the hopes you might be able to duplicate the issue and figure out what I'm doing wrong.

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1829129705

That particular issue hasn't been duplicated yet in game without the other mods enabled, so I'll have to figure out what's causing the issue. Posted here in the hopes you might be able to duplicate the issue and figure out what I'm doing wrong.

This means that it's not actually something to do with MOM, and I can't help you figure it out as I don't use the same mods as you.
There is more info on how you can tackle this in the detailed guide

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1829129705

That particular issue hasn't been duplicated yet in game without the other mods enabled, so I'll have to figure out what's causing the issue. Posted here in the hopes you might be able to duplicate the issue and figure out what I'm doing wrong.

This means that it's not actually something to do with MOM, and I can't help you figure it out as I don't use the same mods as you.
There is more info on how you can tackle this in the detailed guide

The one where the station converter doesn't open happened when all the other mods were disabled. The only mods running then were MOM and it's associated stuff.

Chrinnie님이 먼저 게시:

BadPeanut님이 먼저 게시:

This means that it's not actually something to do with MOM, and I can't help you figure it out as I don't use the same mods as you.
There is more info on how you can tackle this in the detailed guide

The one where the station converter doesn't open happened when all the other mods were disabled. The only mods running then were MOM and it's associated stuff.

Are you sure you had everything on? the converter won't work if there's nothing to convert to. Have you made sure to thoroughly read the guide?

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Chrinnie님이 먼저 게시:

The one where the station converter doesn't open happened when all the other mods were disabled. The only mods running then were MOM and it's associated stuff.

Are you sure you had everything on? the converter won't work if there's nothing to convert to. Have you made sure to thoroughly read the guide?

I made sure I read the guide prior to even starting a new city with only MOM and related things enabled because without mods it takes a while to get to enough people to start building the train stations and I don't have enough free time to play a few hours on C:S to get a city big enough to build trains to test a mod issue only to have been wrong from the start. Not saying it couldn't happen. I am not, as anyone who knows me will attest, 100% perfect 100% of the time, so I still could have done an oopsie, but I am 99% certain I didn't.

To ensure this, I unsubbed all mods/assets, resubbed to MOM and its related only and had the same issue with only MOM and related and no other assets/mods enabled. The station converter window did not appear, but it happened after deleting the multitrack station that is native to C:S. Both the end station and the "through" station had the same issue. And, all game files were successfully validated. When it happened, it happened after having deleted the vanilla multitrack station due to the fact I wanted it somewhere else. First the station converter menu had a "lot" of tracks that could be individually set to either train or metro.. like stretching out of the converter window to the edge of my monitor. Then, after trying again after closing and restarting, deleting and trying to rebuild the vanilla multitrack station I had the no converter window problem. It should be noted that when I originally build the station, it worked flawlessly.

Here is what it did to me when I, once more, ensured only MOM and related were in the game. I didn't even get to build the station this time: https://i.imgur.com/f9aBsFs.png

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BadPeanut님이 먼저 게시:

Are you sure you had everything on? the converter won't work if there's nothing to convert to. Have you made sure to thoroughly read the guide?

I made sure I read the guide prior to even starting a new city with only MOM and related things enabled because without mods it takes a while to get to enough people to start building the train stations and I don't have enough free time to play a few hours on C:S to get a city big enough to build trains to test a mod issue only to have been wrong from the start. Not saying it couldn't happen. I am not, as anyone who knows me will attest, 100% perfect 100% of the time, so I still could have done an oopsie, but I am 99% certain I didn't.

To ensure this, I unsubbed all mods/assets, resubbed to MOM and its related only and had the same issue with only MOM and related and no other assets/mods enabled. The station converter window did not appear, but it happened after deleting the multitrack station that is native to C:S. Both the end station and the "through" station had the same issue. And, all game files were successfully validated. When it happened, it happened after having deleted the vanilla multitrack station due to the fact I wanted it somewhere else. First the station converter menu had a "lot" of tracks that could be individually set to either train or metro.. like stretching out of the converter window to the edge of my monitor. Then, after trying again after closing and restarting, deleting and trying to rebuild the vanilla multitrack station I had the no converter window problem. It should be noted that when I originally build the station, it worked flawlessly.

Thank you for expanding on that. Could I ask one more nuisance question - just to be doubly sure before I take the time to look into this - the guide has a section that lists every single item that needs to be enabled in the content manager - you've gone through this list (it's extensive) to make sure they're all on? it''s the section called "Enabling Required Items in Content Manager"

BadPeanut님이 먼저 게시:

Chrinnie님이 먼저 게시:

I made sure I read the guide prior to even starting a new city with only MOM and related things enabled because without mods it takes a while to get to enough people to start building the train stations and I don't have enough free time to play a few hours on C:S to get a city big enough to build trains to test a mod issue only to have been wrong from the start. Not saying it couldn't happen. I am not, as anyone who knows me will attest, 100% perfect 100% of the time, so I still could have done an oopsie, but I am 99% certain I didn't.

To ensure this, I unsubbed all mods/assets, resubbed to MOM and its related only and had the same issue with only MOM and related and no other assets/mods enabled. The station converter window did not appear, but it happened after deleting the multitrack station that is native to C:S. Both the end station and the "through" station had the same issue. And, all game files were successfully validated. When it happened, it happened after having deleted the vanilla multitrack station due to the fact I wanted it somewhere else. First the station converter menu had a "lot" of tracks that could be individually set to either train or metro.. like stretching out of the converter window to the edge of my monitor. Then, after trying again after closing and restarting, deleting and trying to rebuild the vanilla multitrack station I had the no converter window problem. It should be noted that when I originally build the station, it worked flawlessly.

Thank you for expanding on that. Could I ask one more nuisance question - just to be doubly sure before I take the time to look into this - the guide has a section that lists every single item that needs to be enabled in the content manager - you've gone through this list (it's extensive) to make sure they're all on? it''s the section called "Enabling Required Items in Content Manager"

Please, by all means be as nitpicky as you want. It is your valuable time I'm asking for. I will recheck everything once more to ensure I am not going to waste it.

So, after rechecking, everything that is required to be enabled per the list is enabled. Of course, remember I said "99% sure" Well, 1% error margin still is a margin of error. I, like a dummy, had one more mod enabled than required, though, ironically, it was your Improved Public Transport 2. Since disabling that mod, I have not been able to recreate the issue. If it does reoccur, I will let you know. Still testing it.

EDIT: HOLD UP

Now a new issue: https://i.imgur.com/9fpYYel.png
Also got the "cursor with no asset" freeze issue happening again: https://i.imgur.com/weV8Q9E.png When that happens C:S time stops and is frozen and I have to use MS Task Manager to exit the game.

The converter isn't popping up and now the subway station looks doubled. I just rechecked everything again... then compared it again to the list you asked for... only MOM and mom related are currently turned on. And the converter didn't pop up. No idea, but it did happen after placing, then deleting a few times. I'm going to reupload the city with IPT2 off. And the save file is updated to the current version without IPT2.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1829254143

Chrinnie님이 먼저 게시:

BadPeanut님이 먼저 게시:

Thank you for expanding on that. Could I ask one more nuisance question - just to be doubly sure before I take the time to look into this - the guide has a section that lists every single item that needs to be enabled in the content manager - you've gone through this list (it's extensive) to make sure they're all on? it''s the section called "Enabling Required Items in Content Manager"

Please, by all means be as nitpicky as you want. It is your valuable time I'm asking for. I will recheck everything once more to ensure I am not going to waste it.

So, after rechecking, everything that is required to be enabled per the list is enabled. Of course, remember I said "99% sure" Well, 1% error margin still is a margin of error. I, like a dummy, had one more mod enabled than required, though, ironically, it was your Improved Public Transport 2. Since disabling that mod, I have not been able to recreate the issue. If it does reoccur, I will let you know. Still testing it.

EDIT: HOLD UP

Now a new issue: https://i.imgur.com/9fpYYel.png
Also got the "cursor with no asset" freeze issue happening again: https://i.imgur.com/weV8Q9E.png When that happens C:S time stops and is frozen and I have to use MS Task Manager to exit the game.

The converter isn't popping up and now the subway station looks doubled. I just rechecked everything again... then compared it again to the list you asked for... only MOM and mom related are currently turned on. And the converter didn't pop up. No idea, but it did happen after placing, then deleting a few times. I'm going to reupload the city with IPT2 off. And the save file is updated to the current version without IPT2.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1829254143

1 last thing: you're using the online steam version right? (not a local folder version?)

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Chrinnie님이 먼저 게시:

Please, by all means be as nitpicky as you want. It is your valuable time I'm asking for. I will recheck everything once more to ensure I am not going to waste it.

So, after rechecking, everything that is required to be enabled per the list is enabled. Of course, remember I said "99% sure" Well, 1% error margin still is a margin of error. I, like a dummy, had one more mod enabled than required, though, ironically, it was your Improved Public Transport 2. Since disabling that mod, I have not been able to recreate the issue. If it does reoccur, I will let you know. Still testing it.

EDIT: HOLD UP

Now a new issue: https://i.imgur.com/9fpYYel.png
Also got the "cursor with no asset" freeze issue happening again: https://i.imgur.com/weV8Q9E.png When that happens C:S time stops and is frozen and I have to use MS Task Manager to exit the game.

The converter isn't popping up and now the subway station looks doubled. I just rechecked everything again... then compared it again to the list you asked for... only MOM and mom related are currently turned on. And the converter didn't pop up. No idea, but it did happen after placing, then deleting a few times. I'm going to reupload the city with IPT2 off. And the save file is updated to the current version without IPT2.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1829254143

1 last thing: you're using the online steam version right? (not a local folder version?)

Um, I have no idea. I honestly couldn't tell you if I'm using the online steam version or not. What I can tell you is that when I start C:S it shows me that I am logged into my Paradox account and that my Paradox account is linked to my Steam account. I see a news feed, have full access to subscribe to mods via the Steam Workshop right there from my game's main menu. I assume that means I am using the online steam version. I even seem to have access to a messenger of some sort? IDK, I never use it.

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BadPeanut님이 먼저 게시:

1 last thing: you're using the online steam version right? (not a local folder version?)

Um, I have no idea. I honestly couldn't tell you if I'm using the online steam version or not. What I can tell you is that when I start C:S it shows me that I am logged into my Paradox account and that my Paradox account is linked to my Steam account. I see a news feed, have full access to subscribe to mods via the Steam Workshop right there from my game's main menu. I assume that means I am using the online steam version. I even seem to have access to a messenger of some sort? IDK, I never use it.

This answers my question anyway as to use a local folder is a manual thing for you to set up.
Thanks for answering.
I'm busy for the next couple days but I'll definitely take a look when i can.
Also just FYI i'm not bloody penguin who's mod IPT2 you have mentioned, but it should still work with that mod, so not sure how it's breaking there.
Sit tight, I'll get back to you soon

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Chrinnie님이 먼저 게시:

Um, I have no idea. I honestly couldn't tell you if I'm using the online steam version or not. What I can tell you is that when I start C:S it shows me that I am logged into my Paradox account and that my Paradox account is linked to my Steam account. I see a news feed, have full access to subscribe to mods via the Steam Workshop right there from my game's main menu. I assume that means I am using the online steam version. I even seem to have access to a messenger of some sort? IDK, I never use it.

This answers my question anyway as to use a local folder is a manual thing for you to set up.
Thanks for answering.
I'm busy for the next couple days but I'll definitely take a look when i can.
Also just FYI i'm not bloody penguin who's mod IPT2 you have mentioned, but it should still work with that mod, so not sure how it's breaking there.
Sit tight, I'll get back to you soon

Yeah, sorry, I'm an idiot. I am just.... sorry for the confusion. Anyway, if you think of any other question you want to ask before you take a look, just hit me with it. Thank you for taking your time with me here!

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BadPeanut님이 먼저 게시:

Hmm something about the mod isn't updating - you don't have a version in your local folder or anything like that do you?
because you shouldn't have this icon at all with the new version:
https://i.imgur.com/m1JYQMa.png

I'm gonna go back to the programmer and see what andre thinks

Can you please send me a dropbox or google drive link with your output log? Would help to see somethings under the hood

Thanks so much for looking into this! If I did have some sort of local version I don't know how it got there.

Here's the output log: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZwCeeNIv5a2ZjNwudBxa8Uih2II6z2vM/view?usp=sharing

Is there a work around that I can use to get my MOM version up to date?

See below for solution.

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Hi! I'm sorry to bug you, but I have been unable to spawn metro trains from my metro depot for 2-3 months now (since before the big update).

I have gradually tried to disable and unsubscribe from mods and assets, one by one, and tried to start over with vanilla maps, and unsubbed and resubbed to MOM.

I have After Dark, Snowfall, Matchday and Mass transit DLC. The problem surfaced very soon after I added the Matchday DLC, but not immediately after, so I don't _think_ it's related.

I have tried to follow all the troubleshooting instructions. Including:

• I have disabled all mods/assets not listed as required dependencies.
  
• I have verified the game cache
  
• I have uninstalled Cities Skylines
  
• I have unsubscribed from all Workshop Items
  
• Then I reinstalled CS, resubscribed to all 10 items in the All required items collection (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1798577756), restarted CS and then started a new city on a vanilla map.

I can place the metro depot, the metro tunnels, the metro stops and the metro lines with no problem, but the depot still fails to send out any trains.

I have taken extra care to not have unnecessary turns or splits in my system. I have both tried a closed loop with one line going in CW and one line in CCW directions, as well as a straight tunnel just connecting directly onto the depot without any bends or curves whatsoever, as can be seen here: https://i.imgur.com/WplXgIr.png

I still think it's something b0rked with my installation, but I fail to see what, given that I uninstalled and reinstalled the game. That's why I ask for help.

When I load a city or start a new map I first get the following warning:


Then I get the following errors:

I don't know how to upload my game. I have tried to save it to Steam Cloud, but It doesn't show up in my workshop and I can't find any link to it. If someone can give a general hint or link on how to upload the save game file properly, that would be nice.

Oh, and I am running CS via Steam on Linux (Arch Linux).

Any help would be tremendously helpful, as I feel like I am stuck here.

Solution: Some of the assets had not been enabled. Perhaps, they hadn't finished downloading when I started my latest map after wiping my installation. Anyway, after manually enabling all assets in the Content Manager, the trains are spawning in my depot again. Sorry to have wasted anyone's time.