ARK: Survival Evolved

ARK: Survival Evolved

Advanced Rafts
MacGyver  [developer] Oct 29, 2016 @ 12:03pm
Scoarched Earth Bug Reports (Resolved)
Please post your bugs relating to the SE update here
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Angel Miru Sep 30, 2016 @ 9:14am 
Cannot change 3PV distance
@MacGyver thank you again for the response. I have this mod running on 2 servers and I cannot change the view distance on the rafts on either server. I've tried moving this mod to the beginning of the mod list on one server and it made no difference. I also tried making a new raft and that made no difference. Also, I noticed after yesterdays update the rafts are now very "jittery" in that they seem to move forward 30-50 feet then jump back 5 feet. I sailed half way across The Center and it did this the whole way. I don't know if this helps, but here are the mods I'm running on the first server (the other server has almost the same mods):

Advanced Rafts 749466101
StackMeMore 680481868
Structures+ 731604991
Platforms+ 719928795
Snappy Saddles 725398419
Ark Advance 572277026
Extra ARK 2.0 656525905
No Collision Pipes & Cables 576504995
WaterWell 553034096
Binoglass 538827119
Auto Torches 543859212
Building Xtras (200+ 567659264
ecoTrees 670764308
ecoinWonderland 702828089
ecoRPdecor 741203089
SCUBAVision 736753048
More Narcotics & Tranq-Arrows 754885087
Echo's OCD Stacking Storage 757669231
Wooden Pillar Wall 711296507

I moved this to a discussion because it was too long for comments. LOL Thanks again for a great mod, MacGyver.
JustJay Oct 1, 2016 @ 5:53am 
i have same issue with the rafts ruberbanding/lag. only mods we run are advanced rafts and boat pipes. center map as well. EDIT, just checked my other dedi, same settings and mods. the island map it seems to be working fine with the rubberbanding..only happens on our center map. which sucks..cause we only play on the center map. lol.
Last edited by JustJay; Oct 1, 2016 @ 6:09am
Angel Miru Oct 1, 2016 @ 8:00am 
It's doing the same thing on The Island and on The Center for me.
MacGyver  [developer] Oct 3, 2016 @ 5:14pm 
I've got a fix ready for the 3PV selection on dedicated servers after 247 and they'll be in the next update. The rubberbanding I'm unable to replicate in the dev kit, but what it sounds like is the client is using the proper advanced raft stats letting you move and the server is using the standard raft stats and warping you back because you should be encumberd. Since i cant replicate the issue all i can do is try to apply some test fixes. If you can let me know what kind of weight your loading i can test further, but ive tried with over 12k metal and been able to move fine.
Last edited by MacGyver; Oct 3, 2016 @ 5:14pm
Angel Miru Oct 3, 2016 @ 8:39pm 
I'll do some testing when I can. Thank you, MacGyver!
Angel Miru Oct 6, 2016 @ 5:29am 
@MacGyver, sorry it took so long to get back to you. I did some checking on one of the rafts that is "jittery". It's carrying only about 304 in cargo - all in storage boxes, not in the raft's cargo hold. That is in addition to about 104 structural pieces and 17 internal fittings (beds, workbenches, etc.).

The 3PV view is now working right for me. I can change between any of the view distance options now.

I decided to try building a new raft this morning and built a large house boat on it like the one I have that can't move anymore. The structure on the boat is complete, although it has no internal fittings or cargo yet, and it works fine - no jittering or rubber-banding, etc. I was too tired after building the thing to go any further, but I'm wondering if it is just a matter of boats built before the current release of ARK?

Thanks again! I'll let you know if I have any trouble once the new boat is fitted and carrying cargo.
MacGyver  [developer] Oct 6, 2016 @ 2:46pm 
They changed dino blueprints quite a bit with SE, and the raft is just a dino. Its possible the changes arent updating the old rafts. I have to spawn a new raft testing in the dev kit each time so its not something i would notice. But status effects should be diabled while swimming, thats whats been breaking when you get stuck. So ive also reduced weight speed reduction to 0, and upped the encumber weight to 100k. Both of those should prevent getting stuck, when what should work breaks.
Angel Miru Oct 6, 2016 @ 5:02pm 
Thanks for all the hard work, MacGyver. Replaced the "stuck" boat this evening and I'm really pleased with how it came out. Have a look - http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=776081475

er.. I meant to say in there that it's fully fitted out and loaded and working fine.
Last edited by Angel Miru; Oct 6, 2016 @ 5:10pm
fractal_v0id Oct 8, 2016 @ 1:12am 
Bug Reports!
MacGyver, I will try to be as detailed and provide as much information about this as I can so we can hopefully get this fixed. I've been using this mod since Sep 19, mainly because of the camera settings and extended build radius. I never cared about the raft's inventory because I always implement storage especially on large rafts (I think we all do). It took me a whole week to build my large raft and I was happy about my accomplishment, until the Sep 27 update, and I immediately reported the issue on the comments section. Now the reason why I create this post is so hopefully people can report bugs here you can keep track of them easily.

The problem:

The raft has a weight stat! Why? That's beyond me. But the weight takes into account: player weight when driving the raft, and the total weight of items stored within containers on the raft, but seems to ignore the weight of items inside the rafts inventory. Why? This is completely backwards. The last one is a big deal when farming metal and unloading into the rafts containers because it causes the raft to reach it's limit fast and become encumbered which makes it nearly impossible to move. I do not use the raft's built in inventory, it's inconvenient to do so on a large build. When pressing H on the large raft, the HUD displays 1800 as the max weight capacity, making my longhaul build nearly useless (playing on The Center single player).

So I begin troubleshooting, and hopefully this can help you replicate and narrow down the problem, considering that others have reported this issue as well.

Findings:

-Moving the mod to the top of the list makes no difference.
-I spawned another Large Raft, got on board and pressed H. It displays 106/100000, 106 being my current weight. I put some stones on the raft inventory and it's now 104 (my current weight ignoring the weight of stones in the raft). I take the stones out, placed a container on the raft and put the stones in. Now it's 106 again, 104 being my weight plus the weight of stones inside the container. In addition I don't understand why the weight cap of the spawned large raft is 100000 and my crafted large raft is only 1800. And again what's the point of the weight cap? It seems to me that it should take into account the rafts inventory not containers and player weight. :steamfacepalm:

I sincerely hope that you look into a solution for this. Let me know if I can provide you with more info or anything else you want me to do to help you troubleshoot. Good luck!
MacGyver  [developer] Oct 10, 2016 @ 10:56pm 
Thanks for the report Orteezy, to answer some of your questions...

"The raft has a weight stat! Why?" - This is because the raft is just a dino, when its given an inventory it behaves just like platform dinos. Platform dinos take all weight of containers into account. I've got around this on the advanced raft by disabling status effects (encumbering) while swimming. Unfortunately that stopped working after the SE update, so I've now increased the encumber weight limit to 100k, so even when Ark isnt following its own rules people should have some room to work with the weight. I'd love for things to work perfectly as theyre designed in Ark but thats not the case sometimes.

"But the weight takes into account: player weight when driving the raft, and the total weight of items stored within containers on the raft, but seems to ignore the weight of items inside the rafts inventory. Why?" - Thats all Arks doing unfortunately, i have no control over what is taken into account when determining the overall weight.

"When pressing H on the large raft, the HUD displays 1800 as the max weight capacity, making my longhaul build nearly useless" - If any of your rafts are reading 1800 then they are using the wrong (default raft) character stats, this was another bug introduced with SE. If your raft doesnt show a max value of 100k it isnt current and should be replaced.

I hope this answers some of the questions you have. Unfortunately most of these values are just integers and checkboxes, and beyond checking the box and entering the right value theres not much i can do when Ark doesnt pull the right values. I'll also add that i do everything possible to avoid people having to replace their rafts, i've avoided some additions just because they would cause this. But with the blueprint changes in SE it seems unavoidable in some cases, but unfortunately thats outside my control.
fractal_v0id Oct 11, 2016 @ 1:36am 
MacGyver,

Thanks for the reply and clarifying some of my concerns. As I mentioned, I play single player and my progress is slow so I haven't gotten to platform dinos yet so I was unaware of the container weight mechanics, but now I understand. With regards to the weight limit on my raft being 1800 I don't know how I ended up with such stats. At first it wasn't an issue because the the internal inventory wasn't working but I got screwed with the update and replacing the raft itself as part of a large build means having to rebuild the structure all over.

Anyways I greatly appreciate your work, everything else works fine for me, no camera problems or rubberbanding, so once again thank you!
lorddragoblade Oct 23, 2016 @ 7:20am 
cant build the cannons in smithy
B2own Feb 17, 2017 @ 4:50pm 
i find if i leave the rafts on default speeds the rubberbanding stops, only happens if i try going to half speed or so .
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