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Recruitable Prisoners - with dialogue (pls read description)
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Pyrithe Oct 16, 2018 @ 3:57pm
Small issue with the difficulty...
So I've enjoyed this mod for quite some time, but lately I've come up with a few issues in the balance of it. Firstly, the Black Ninja Genin. If you know the dialogue chain, it's a guaranteed recruitment, they attack often, have decent stats, and honestly is the bulk of my current army. I feel like they should be somewhat more difficult than that considering that the lowest tier recruitment of Hungry Bandits is ACTUALLY harder than the Genin. On that note, why are they so picky? You would think just promising them food as a group of "level 1's" they'd be all for joining. They are the ones who should be the trash-tier, "quantity over quality" recruits, just promise them food and away you go! The last issue I have is with the Shek's, both Band of Bone's and Kral's Chosen are both extremely difficult to get the recruiting dialogue to pop up. I get that you need a Shek to recruit a Shek, that's standard game, but when I have to babysit for 3-ingame days to try and recruit a single Shek only for them to starve to death anyways, it's made them pretty much an ignore for me. I can get lower level Dust Bandit Shek's if I want them, but again, the Genin are plentiful and superior so it seems a waste of time and resources to bother with them. Other than that, this mod is fantastic, it gives cages a use besides bounty holding and a means to bolster your ranks with something besides predesigned characters or low chance random joins.
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Nanogiraffe  [developer] Oct 18, 2018 @ 3:57am 
Thanks for the feedback, yeah, i've never been happy with the balance overall and it's something i want to address when i have the chance to get back into the game :-)
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Pyrithe Oct 18, 2018 @ 12:13pm 
Well, I've been mulling over a few ideas in regards to those ones, mainly since you already have to put in the effort of training the Hungry Bandit's and they are pretty much the quantity over quality type, maybe just make their dialogue a straight up "Will you feed me?" "Yes" and they join. The Dust Bandit's can still be the more picky ones, but maybe toss the meat option and rice option and go for the tougher stuff like Meat Wrap's and Gohan's. I was also thinking that maybe items could be your later requirement like needing the Holy Nation's bible in your inventory just to talk to them, Shek's (now that I understand them better) actually make sense with needing higher stats, Ninja warriors could need someone who "lives in the shadows" (Stealth stat higher than 50) to understand them, and so on.

Also, is it possible to make them consume the item they ask for, since I notice the Hungry and Dust bandits don't consume them, they just require them in the inventory? It might be good to make the tougher ones require some sort of offering, like Inquisitors might require something like limbs off a Shek or other race which get consumed upon recruitment so you can't just chain recruit a bunch of high level characters (figured them out and now my army is all but unstoppable). At the very least, it would make us work for our army whether we want to train easily recruitable low levels or go hunting for specific items for the high level stuff.
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Nanogiraffe  [developer] Oct 20, 2018 @ 5:41pm 
That's pretty much ideally what i'd like to go for. When I began i just used chance gates, then moved to criptic loops (broken skeleton) then items, then stats (shek), and last branching choice dialogues (samurai). Having an item or an evolving dialogue that you can't just memorise would be ideal, and might be possible, but I also have to work within the limitations of the editor. On a side note, actually dust bandits are supposed to be cash requirement, however there is an old long standing bug that makes them keep using the lower tier food rec and i cant' as yet figure it out (oh well)
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