Wales is the last brythonic kingdom left in the british isles which received refugees from the rest of brythonic britain and stood tall as other kingdoms like the dumnonii and strathclyde fell. Wales has recently been conquered by england but its hold on wales is extremely weak with many rebellions. For this reason the crown has established many marcher lordships in order to control the local welsh population. Additionally is the principality of wales in the north west which is ruled by the heir to the english throne from shropshire. Therefore with distant rulers it was often the site of the rebellions and retained its distinct identity, until its annexation in the 15th century.
http://i.imgur.com/2q7BRiC.png
https://imgur.com/9A9GMJt

South wales/ Deheubarth

Mostly marcher states apart from carmarthen which was tenuously in the hands of the principality.
In the far west lie pembroke which due to anglo flemish colonization rapidly developed and virtually completely deforested to make way for farm land. Next lies carmarthen which was held by the Principality and had sea access which also had the effect of separating pembroke from the other marcher lords. This was the only staple port in all of wales and so massively benefited from the gradual increase of trade in the west of the uk. It was also home to a gold mine started by the romans that onl closed permanently in 1938. This mine can represent all the rare metals found along copper and iron that the welsh were internationally known for being able to extract.
Gower a peninsula that was absorbed by glamorgan once wales was officially annexed. However it was an independent lordship with the prosperous town and later copper centre of swansea.
Glamorgan the modern capital of wales but a historically rich and important trading centre. Additionally it and its valleys are well known internationally for heavy industry.
The last coastal province is Monmouthshire, who had a identity crisis of whether it was a part of wales or england due to such high english presence. It was eventually confirmed as part of wales but only after hundreds of years of being associated but not part of wales in legislation. Finally another inland province of radnorshire which was a historic county made from many tiny marcher lordships with Radnor being noticeably bigger than the surrounding lordships. Traditionally a very poor area it kept the welsh language much longer due to a lack of english and flemish immigration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembrokeshire#Economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pembrokeshire#History

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmarthenshire#Economy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carmarthenshire#Demography_and_the_Welsh_language

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welsh_gold#Dolaucothi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gower_Peninsula#Anglo-Normans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lordship_of_Gower

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lordship_of_Glamorgan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glamorgan#Lordship_of_Glamorgan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usk#Norman_times
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brecknockshire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brecon#Norman_control
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ewyas#Lordship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radnorshire#History_and_culture
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elfael
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maelienydd


Pembrokeshire- livestock, 3 3 2, Welsh , Capital- Haverfordwest
Carmarthenshire- Gold 3 3 2, Welsh, Capital- Llanelli
Gower- Copper 2 2 1, Welsh, Capital- Swansea
Glamorgan- Iron, 3 3 2, Welsh, Capital- Cardiff
Monmouthshire- Grain 1 1 2, Welsh. Capital- Usk
Brecon- Livestock 2 2 1, Welsh, Capital- brecon
Radnor- Wool 1 1 1, Welsh, Capital- Llandrindod

North wales/Gwynedd- Significantly less english presence but also less trade due to being further from the continent. Largely controlled by the principality but there are two marcher states as well as a province under the control of the palatinate of Chester.
Starting on the south coast lies Cardigan which was a historic agricultural county but also had the distinction of building most of wales’s ships.
Inland are the mountains of powys which was the seat of an ancient kingdom of powys which controlled much of the english border counties. Now after defeat by the english it is a multitude of marcher lords with powys still the largest.
Again along the coast is meirionnydd a historic county formed by the statute of Rhuddlan. As Well as caernarfon it had a extremely strong slate (mining) industry but agriculturally meirionnydd had a stronger wool industry whereas caernarfon had a more diversified livestock industry. Caernarfon, the seat of the principality and its capital is a more developed region especially considering warmer temperatures meaning it was more fertile than currently. Both counties were also at the heart of the Owain Glyndwr rebellion in 1402 (depending on start date this rebellion could be represented with a fair chance of liberating wales.
Anglesey is a easily defendable island in the irish sea with a distinct history being a part of the norwegian empire. It also allows control of the menai straits. This has massive tidal effects and so should not have a strait as armies would need ships to land on the island.
On the north coast lies the marcher lordship of denbigh which was one of the most hotly contested titles of the 13th and 14th century and was only only fixed when the holder became king of england and so was annex to the crown itself in 1480’s
Tucked in between denbigh and chester is flintshire which represents the earl of chester's welsh holding in his county palatinate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Rhuddlan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Wales#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceredigion#Economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powys#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Powys#Post-kingdom_Powys
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meirionnydd
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merionethshire#Main_towns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolgellau#History_and_economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caernarfon#Economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caernarfonshire#Creation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llanefni
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumaris#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menai_Strait
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denbigh#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lordship_of_Denbigh#Marcher_Lordship
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flintshire#Early_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Chester
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Chester#County_of_Flint

Ceredigion- Naval supplies, 1 3 2, Welsh, Capital- Cardigan
Powys- Iron, 1 1 1, Welsh, Capital gwyddelwern
Meirionnydd- wool, 1 2 1,Welsh, Capital- Dolgellau
Caernarfon- Livestock, 2 3 2, Welsh, Capital- Bangor
Anglesey/Ynys Môn - Copper, 2 1 2, Welsh,Capital- Beaumaris
Denbigh- cloth, 2 3 2, Welsh, Capital Denbigh
Flintshire- Fish 3 3 1, Welsh, Capital- Mold

Wales did end up with more provinces than originally intended but they are all pretty much the same size and so it was hard to choose what to cut and i felt these a historical compromises would be irrational when that is the sort of thing we are trying to avoid with this mod.
Tags- Quite frankly the current setup of a all powerful marchs tag is ahistorical with individual lordships having no obligations to any other lordship with just fealty to the english crown. Therefore each marcher province should be its own free to declare war on other marcher lordships and the welsh princes as well as forming alliances with one another. This is a very similar set up to daimyo subjects (as in they don't take up a diplomatic relation for england) but they should have an increased force limit and in return be expected to pay a small tribute and support england in their wars.Flintshire should be controlled by the county palatinate of chester. The principality of wales should control Ynys mon, Meirionnydd, Caernarfon, Ceredigion and Carmarthenshire. This should be ruled by england as a personal union as it currently is and its likelihood to revolt should be increased. (don't know if this is actually possible but yeah) However the Marcher lords and the principality need to be able to declare war on one another so perhaps it should be a daimnyo as well but with an event 50 years after the war of the roses finishes to annex all of wales to england as is what historically happened.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/90/Wales_14C_Map.png
The total development of wales has (post dev doubling) increased from 60 to 80 however this is only a change of 10 (pre development doubling) and due to the increased fighting in wales now able to be represented the change will be largely unnoticed.
14 provinces is obviously a high province density but its fragmentation is on par with the levels seen in italy but obviously it is a bit poorer and hence lower development and not quite as small provinces.
Also on a side note the Crown dependencies of IOM and channel islands should have this set up as they weren’t foreign to england just administered separately for the king so a whole relation slot being used by them seems unreasonable. This should allow england to interact better with ireland and mainland europe as it was often involved in conflicts which rarely happens at present as england's diplomatic slots are taken up my Lordships and crown dependencies

Personally being english myself with family from lancashire and the midlands i see very little basis for a split english culture however in order to split up the massive english culture from dominating the british isles despite that being how it was historically i will follow the northumbrian,merican (the midlands has culture I promise), Anglican in East anglia and english in the south. Cornish will stay in cornwall as there's no reason for it to be in in devon given wessex controlled devon and so has been part of england proper since its inception unlike cornwall whom was conquered slightly later and always did have a more distinct culture. Additionally due to the nature of geography in england the north is often administered as more small convenient localities in the hills and valleys and this is represented in their counties with countless subdivisions eg the ridings of yorkshire allowing more autonomous and local administration.Therefore the north will have more underdeveloped provinces compared to the south which will have on average larger provinces which are more prosperous than the north.

North West/ Lancashire- currently 3 provinces with a total development of 15 which seems a bit low especially since two of the virtually independent palatinates were here. I would argue these would make a suitable candidate for vassals in england for else it is a rather unified state. These palatinates also survived far past the end of the feudal era and so perhaps a modifier increasing autonomy in return for a increased development upon annexation to england. So great was their independence that the earliest form of a constitution the magna carta did not apply in cheshire.
I split cumbria in to its 2 traditional counties and the distinct and separately administered enclave of furness.
Lancaster proper has also been split into 3 provinces to properly represent the powerhouse that it is and was with the house of york traditionally being a strong and rich area. First the northern province of lancaster represents the more rural parts of lancaster but does include the cities of blackpool and of course the county town of lancaster. Then there is leyland which represents the coast south of the ribble with the market town of preston as well as the port of liverpool and southport.
Finally salford to represent the traditional towns and later huge industrial cities of manchester, salford, bolton, blackburn, wigan and rochdale.
Finally is cheshire. This second rich independent palatinate was the original marcher state in wales at least if not the whole of england. As well as being independent itself it should have a province in north east wales to represent its welsh holdings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_palatine#Durham,_Chester_and_Lancaster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumberland#/media/File:EnglandCumberlandTrad.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlisle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westmorland#Early_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrow-in-Furness#Early_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amounderness_Hundred
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Derby_Hundred#Expansion_of_the_boundaries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancashire#Divisions_and_environs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salford_Hundred#Origins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire#Palatine_hundreds
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Chester#Revenues

15. Furness- Iron, 2 1 1, Northumbrian, Capital- Barrow
16. Cumberland- Wool, 1 2 1, northumbrian, Capital- Carlisle
17. Westmoreland- Naval supplies, 1 2 1, Northumbrian, Capital- Kendal
18. Lancaster- wool, 2 2 3, Northumbrian, Capital- Lancaster
19. Salford- cloth, 3 3 1, Northumbrian, Capital- Manchester
20. Leyland- Naval Supplies, 3 3 1, Northumbrian, Capital- Liverpool
21. Cheshire- cloth, 3 3 2, Northumbrian, Capital- Chester

Northumbria- Once a strong ancient kingdom in the heptarchy that control much of the north and scotland. However following viking raids and settlement it lost what is now yorkshire and was unable to stop the scots taking lothian leaving merely durham and northumberland. There additionally was a county of tynedale which was absorbed to northumberland in 1495 so is suitable inland northumberland province. Finally durham is a semi-independent prince bishop whom rules over the county of durham with liberty and discretion. However in the north with constant raiding this does give durham relative stability. Northumberland has 22 development post doubling

22. Northumberland- Livestock, 4 4 2, Northumbrian, Capital- Newcastle
23. Tynedale- wool, 2 2 1, Northumbrian, Capital- Hexham
24. Durham- cloth, 3 3 3, Northumbrian, Capital- Durham

Yorkshire- Gods own county as it is popularly known. Starting in the north riding with the east is the cleveland coast with towns like whitby and middlesbrough making up a large fishing and industrial area. Alternatively the west is largely rural and highly agricultural situated in the pennines and dales of yorkshire. Harrogate, known for its spa waters and rural sites. In the south of the west riding lie the great cities of yorkshire among others sheffield and leeds. Leeds was a historic textile district weaving wool from across the pennines while sheffield has been known since the dark ages for its iron and steel. Yorkshire with development doubling had 28 development however this is considering a smaller yorkshire than i have used as the current map has given away land to all its neighbours. Yorkshire has an area of around 15,500 km^2 so should have around 7 provinces

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire#Wars_of_the_Roses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riding_(country_subdivision)#Yorkshire
http://county-wise.org.uk/counties/yorkshire/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland,_England
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richmond,_North_Yorkshire#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Riding_of_Yorkshire


25. Cleveland- Fish, 1 2 1, Northumbrian, Capital-Whitby
26. The Dales- Livestock, 2 1 1, Northumbrian, Capital-Richmond
27. Harrogate- Wool 1 2 1, Northumbrian, Capital- Harrogate
28. Leeds- Cloth. 2 3 2, Northumbrian, Capital Leeds
29. Sheffield- Iron, 3 3 1, Northumbrian, Capital Sheffield
30. Hull- Fish or Naval supplies, 2 3 1, Northumbrian, Capital Kingston
31. York- Glass, 5 5 2, Northumbrian, Capital- York

Midlands - I’m probably a bit biased here and so yeah i shouldn't decide how to mix up the states. However the midlands does have clear reasonable sized counties and the one large one has nice easy splits to it. While much later industrial cities do separate from their countries this is past our timeframe and would be a historical to split them.( like Birmingham and coventry forming the west midlands county)
Starting from the East is lincolnshire which is the second largest county in all of england. Mainly Low arable, fertile land reclaimed from the sea using dutch expertise this land is the breadbasket of the UK still. Lincoln traditionally had 3 parts similar to yorkshire and each has clearly defined borders.
Next is Robin hood country, Nottinghamshire known for its royal forest sherwood forest where robin hood was allegedly from. This forest and others like it provided much of the wood needed for the english shipbuilding industry
To the West is Derbyshire nestled in the peak district with plenty hilly and tough terrain. This land yielded many stone and metal quarries.
To the south is the rich agriculture land of leicestershire with a history of animal rearing and cheese making (Red leicester)
Further south lies northamptonshire which was a wealthy county with notable shoe and iron industries as well as large landowners
To the west of both Leicestershire and Northamptonshire is Warwickshire, a very rich shire, which is the birthplace of shakespeare and contains many notable city and towns such as birmingham, coventry, warwick, stratford and rugby.
Again to the west is worcestershire which a large portion of was traditionally royal forest and such subject to forest law. This stifled development but eventually the forests were felled and worcester’s wool and salt industries. Worcester’s salt deposits have been mined since roman times.
Finally on the welsh border lie two rather rural counties hereford and shropshire. Shropshire being flatter and more populated is more arable farming whereas the less populated hilly hereford is prone to pastureland for sheep.

http://county-wise.org.uk/counties/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parts_of_Holland#Geography
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsey,_Lincolnshire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kesteven#County_council
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lincolnshire#Later_Middle_Ages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Nottinghamshire#Economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derbyshire#Economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leicestershire#Farming
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Warwickshire#Middle_Ages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northamptonshire#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worcestershire#History


32. Holland- Wool, 2 2 1, Mercian, Capital- Boston
33. Lincoln- Livestock, 2 2 1, Mercian, Capital- Lincoln
34. Lindsey- Grain, 2 3 1, Mercian, Capital- Grimsby
35. Nottinghamshire- Naval Supplies, 2 2 1, Mercian, Capital Nottingham
36. Derby- Stone/Iron, 2 3 1, Mercian, Capital Derby
37. Leicester- Livestock, 4 4 2, Mercian, Capital Leicester
38. Staffordshire- Beer, 2 2 1, Mercian, Capital Stoke
39. Warwickshire- Cloth/Would be more than suitable for coal, 3 3 1, mercian, Capital Coventry
40. Northamptonshire- Iron, 2 2 1, Mercian, Capital Corby
41. Worcestershire- salt, 2 3 1, Merican, Capital Worcester
42. Shropshire- Grain, 2 3 1, Merican, Capital- shrewsbury
43. Herefordshire, Wool, 1 1 2, Merican, Capital- Hereford

South west- Traditionally the kingdom of Wessex

Starting at the end of the peninsula is cornwall. This brythonic holdout with its own individual culture is rich with minerals so much that miners received strong protection and held their own courts. An early form of trade union that protected much of cornwall and allowed it prosperity beyond its means. In order to represent the long term survival of the cornish culture and language cornwall should have 3 provinces that gradually convert to english and have modifiers that prevent this happening early on. The Cornish economy was also very diverse with obviously the mines but also the fishing fleets and grazing livestock on the moors.
Okay so it actually seems unclear as to whether devon was english or still brythonic with some sources even claiming that cornish remained the rural language until 1600. Therefore once again to best represent the culture devon has been split into 3; plymouth and exeter for the rich and populous south and barnstaple for the more rural north. Their traditional economy was very similar to that of cornwall, even the mines were richer until deep sea mining was developed.
Somerset lies on the north of the peninsular and has a particularly agricultural economy but it is also notable for its cider making arguably the most well known in all of the west country.
In the north of somerset is the city of bristol which throughout the middle ages was consistently in the top 3 cities of england. It was the site of a mint and a centre of trade with the new and old world. While there doesn't seem to be any sources on silver mining in the middle ages there was a roman mine and so bath would represent a good province for a gold trade good mainly due to the fact it had a very mercantile economy.
Finally at the mouth of the severn lie gloucestershire with a large timber, iron and tanneries supports a large shipbuilding industry
In the centre of the peninsula lies a landlocked and largely rural county of wiltshire. Wiltshire is notable for its fertile soil and also the stonehenge. It had a very diverse economy with vineyards, livestock, cheese making, but also exporting wool to florence and flanders as well as being one of the most important clothing counties in england.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stannary_law
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundreds_of_Cornwall#/media/File:Kernow_Hundreds.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Devon#Devon_in_Anglo_Saxon_times
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exeter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnstaple#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Somerset#Later_Mediaeval
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol#Middle_Ages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Gloucestershire#Economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Wiltshire#Employment,_manufacturing_and_industry


44. Penwyth- Copper, 1 3 1,Cornish, Capital- Penwyth
45. Powder- Fish , 1 1 2, Cornish, Capital- truro
46. Trigg- Livestock , 2 2 1, Cornish, Capital- Bodmin
47. Plymouth- Copper, 1 1 1, Cornish, Capital- Plymouth
48. Barnstaple- Wool, 1 1 1, English, Capital- Barnstaple
49. Exeter- Fish 2 1 1, English, Capital- Exeter
50. Somerset- Beer, 3 3 2, English, Capital- taunton
51. Bristol- Gold 5 3 2, English, Capital- Bristol
52. Gloucester- Naval supplies, 3 3 2, English,Capital- Gloucester
53. Wiltshire- Cloth, 2 2 1 , English, Capital- Wilton
54. Dorset- Livestock, 2 2 1 , English, Capital- Dorchester

Home counties- The Counties that surround london but do not necessarily border london. These counties are very rich due to proximity to europe and london with whom they trade. Additionally many counties are based off historic kingdoms like kent and sussex and so are rather large counties.
Starting in the west of the south coast is hampshire with two large ports of southampton and Portsmouth and the historic capital of england winchester hampshire is a rich and populous county. Portsmouth was the home of the royal navy and still one of the main bases today.
South is the isle of wight with the solvent in between. IOW has traditionally provided defence for the south coast and has been repeatedly raided from the continents when the rest of england was left unscaved. It has a agricultural past but was also home to many fishing fleets. Given IOW size and population compared to the channel islands and the IOM this seems a reasonable province.
To the east lies the ancient kingdom of sussex. This region has poor, mixed quality soil leading to small fields and prevents intensive agriculture. However its pastures supported a large livestock industry and its forests supported a iron working industry from the roman period to the late 1800’s. Traditionally split in to 6 rapes which are often collected in groups of 3 forming east and west sussex.
Kent following the norman conquest was made in to a county palatine due to such resistance that the normals felt it was impossible to pacify the kentish people by force. This Palatinate has a cultural split along the river medway and so this forms the boundaries of the new provinces.
Between kent and Wessex lies surrey a historically infertile region which relied on more complex trade goods as well as trade with london. However it did have a notable glass industry from the 15th century onwards as well as cloth and iron. Additionally it benefited from being and entirely inland province and so avoided much of the raiding from europe and vikings. This meant castle building in surrey was more for prestige and fashion rather than a defensive purpose.
London the capital of england and the united kingdom its a great centre of trade on the thames. It grew rich with trade with the hanseatic league and the low countries. It was the political centre of england via westminster and also the trading centre via the city of london. London in the our time period was mostly contained in middlesex the historic county and was almost constantly growing. However in 1666 there was the great fire in which 60% of the city burned to the ground. The result was most of the aristocrats left, however this could of been avoided by rebuilding london using the varying plans of 3 mathematics and architects, this could be a event that reduces middlesex’s development for a few years and then lets the player choose how to rebuild resulting in increased tax, production, a great centre of trade or no change while also restoring its previous development.
Any source of essex’s history seems rather lacking and so this province mainly goes of modern and ancient histories.
Finally are a bunch of home counties between the midlands and middlesex including;Berkshire, Oxfordshire, Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Bedfordshire.
Currently these 5 counties combined with Ely, Huntingdonshire and cambridgeshire are represented by a mere two provinces. This obviously does not show the true diversity of this region and so I am suggesting a 4 way split of Cambridgeshire with Ely and huntingdonshire in east anglia, Hertfordshire and bedfordshire, Buckinghamshire and finally Oxfordshire and berkshire.
Oxfordshire is obviously home to oxford university which was established in 1096 as well as a booming cotswold wool trade. Berkshire additionally was very inclined towards sheep rearing.
Buckinghamshire- a traditional london retreat set in rich arable agricultural land
Bedfordshire had been previously wasted by the viking raids and was still underpopulated for the time. However apparently its wool was of high quality and always meet its quota. Hertfordshire was comparatively more urbanised and fertile. Its soil was more clay based however this meant that it grew plenty of barely to support its booming brewing industry. Hertfordshire was also the location of the first paper mill in all the the UK from 1494.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hampshire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Isle_of_Wight#Medieval_period
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport,_Isle_of_Wight#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sussex#Economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Sussex#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Sussex#Settlements
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Sussex#Land_economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kent#Medieval_Kent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrey#Later_Medieval_Surrey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_London#Norman_and_Medieval_London_(1066_%E2%80%93_late_15th_century)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_London#Great_Fire_of_London_(1666)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essex_pig
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Essex#Later_history_and_end
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essex#Landmarks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Oxfordshire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Berkshire#Economic_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Buckinghamshire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hertfordshire#Late_Middle_Ages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Bedfordshire#Industry_and_agriculture



55. Hampshire- Naval supplies, 4 4 2, English Capital- Salisbury
56. Isle of Wight- Fish, 2 1 1, English, Capital- Newport
57. West Sussex- Livestock, 2 3 2, English, Capital- Chichester
58. East Sussex- Iron, 2 3 2, English, Capital- Hastings
59. Stour- Beer, 4 3 2, English, Capital- Canterbury
60. Medway- Naval supplies,3 3 2, English, Capital- Rochester
61. Surrey- Glass, 3 3 2, English, Capital- Guildford
62. Middlesex- Cloth, 8 8 6, Capital- London
63. Essex- Glass, 6 6 3, Capital Chelmsford
64. Oxfordshire- 4 3 2, English, Capital Oxford
65. Buckinghamshire- Grain, 2 2 1, English, Capital- buckingham
66. Hertfordshire-Could be paper but if not beer, 3 3 2, English, Capital- Bedford


East Anglia- Another Ancient kingdom from the heptarchy. While it was an extremely boggy and constituted of vast marsh land it seems especially the inland to be rich and fertile, some of the richest counties in england in fact and the countries most important port. Additionally a very quirky traditional area with a very distinct dialect and so could have a culture equal to mercian and northumbrian. Anglians were often the early settlers of america so think of them when considering their culture and how distinct it is. (different accent, self reliant, mercantile, often heretical beliefs)
Cambridgeshire is made of 3 historic counties, ely, cambridge and huntingdon. These all lied in the fens and so much of their production was fish and water mill based, transitioning to wheat when the fens were drained around 1600. This could an event that changes cambridge to wool. Additionally the county of the isle of ely was a quasi-independent bishopric that actually controlled more hundreds than cambridge did.
Suffolk, being less marshy and close to the continent meant these provinces were rather rich with cloth weaving industries and rich arable farmland. Ipswich, Anglia’s main port was responsible for much trade in the english channel and north sea. Bury st Edmunds is particularly known for brewing. It is also the historic site where the barons agreed in principle to force the king to sign the magna carta
Norfolk, is considerably more fenland, compared to suffolk is less developed however does have more important ports due to its close proximity to the midlands and the north sea hanseatic league. Kings lynn has been compared as what the port of liverpool in the industrial revolution to the country but in the middle ages. Additionally norwich the county town is a staple port meaning it had near constant trade and grew prosperous to the stage where it has the more medieval churches than any other city in western europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fens#Early_modern_attempts_to_drain_the_Fens
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Cambridgeshire#Economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Suffolk#Politics_and_economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipswich#Middle_Ages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffolk#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bury_St_Edmunds#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwich#Middle_Ages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Lynn#Middle_Ages
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Norfolk#Mediaeval_Norfolk


67. Ely- Fish, 2 2 1, Anglian, Capital- Cambridge
68. Ipswich- Cloth 3 3 2, Anglian, Capital- Ipswich
69. St Edmunds- Beer , 2 2 1, Anglian, Capital- Bury
70. Norwich- Fish, 3 3 2, Anglian, Capital- Norwich
71. King’s Lynn- Naval supplies, 4 4 2, Anglian, Capital- Lynn

So yeah england turned out quite province dense, promise i didn't intend that, personally i blame that french dude william, burning the north and all. But seriously;there are 57 provinces which is somehow under my personal target of 58 and so this gives an average size of 2,285 km^2 (Oh wow a whole 35 km^2 that's like almost half a pixel, i know). England previously had 183 development and so 366 to play with after development doubling (Can i just say that's the only way this whole mod is gonna be possible, I’d even argue for tripling and massively reducing the cost of development but also its impact as frankly a ruler would of developed a province over many years and not just one day arbitrarily increasing the entire fortune of a province) So originally after counting the tally up i came out with 388 a mere 11 vanilla development off the original. However i realised quite how unbalanced the north/south divide was (yes I know it existed and still in many aspects does today however in a time frame of feudal to industrial, given this was the North's hay day) i felt it appropriate to slightly redistribute the development slightly away from the south east to basically the rest of the country. This Development change represents a 6% increase which when compared to scotland's inevitable rise simply due to a better representation of the highlands will simply ensure the true balance of Great britain lies with england as it historically did.
Finally in england i would suggest 3 new tags at the start of the game. These should be the 3 palatinates. Durham, Chester and lancaster are all effectively independent earldoms whom have swore eternal loyalty to the king in return for near complete autonomy from the english crown. The ideal setup for these states would be a March/Daimyo, as that was one of their main purposes all being near atleast one hostile border, however England would need to be unable to annex them ever to represent the fact that the county palatinates survived well in to the modern era due to the legal impracticalities of removing them.
Finally have you considered adding all heptarchy states as rebel states similar to northumberland as there is as much precedent for the other 6 as their is northumberland. Also a rebellor state of yorkshire would be very feasible given its very distinct history as a viking kingdom, Jorvik and beings england's largest county connected to one of the powerful royal families.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grampian_Mountains#/media/File:Scotland_(Location)_Named_(HR).png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_local_government_in_Scotland#/media/File:A_new_map_of_Scotland_with_the_roads_(8643653080).jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Scotland_in_the_Middle_Ages#/media/File:Languages_of_Scotland_1400_AD.svg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Scottish_border



72, 73, 74- Northern Isles- Orkney, shetland and faroe island all seem to be administered as their individual archipelago's and there is little evidence for any subdivisions other than a parish level. Additionally they are already quite small and any divisions clickability may become an issue.

Mainland Highlands- Due to lack of hard and agreeable sources some rough and ready compromises have had to be made based on modern day county borders and the occasional doubtful map.
81. Caithness- a historic county separate from sutherland. A historic nordic possession but was ceded to scotland in 1266. For earlier start dates the norn language became replaced by scots in the 1400’s so it is a feasible province of a norn culture as well as the northern isles.
Capital- thurso
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caithness#Early_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norn_language#History

82. Strathnaver- Mackay county, this ancient province was under the control of the mackay clan that was only united when the sutherlands bought the last of clan land in 1829. Was able to field an army of 4000 so perhaps a worthy area of high manpower. Capital- Tongue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strathnaver
http://website.lineone.net/~john_mackie/clann/map.htm
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Strathnaver_map.jpg

83. Sutherland- The actual land of the sutherland clan before the expansion during the highland clearances. Capital- Dornoch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sutherland

84. Ross- Quite frankly the county of cromarty is too small and too fragmented to even try and give it its own province. Therefore by removing sutherland land from ross it becomes an appropriate sized province. Capital-Dingwall
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross,_Scotland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_and_Cromarty#Local_government

85. Lochaber-I decided to split the highlands and so inverness-shire by the great glen and so the west side of inverness shire forms a district of lochaber so by padding it with tiny bits of ross and argyll the province fits nicely with the great glen to the right while providing a province to cross to the inner hebridies from without crossing half of the highlands at the same time. It also stops inverness form being disproportionately big. Capital-Inverlochy
https://alexmidd.co.uk/counties/Scotland/provinces.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lochaber

Inner Hebrides- the power base of the duchy of the isles, while they did control parts of the mainland they were both tenuous and too small to be represented other than as minor enclaves attached to island provinces. Grouped smaller islands with the largest local island to ensure playability. Straits may be needed between the islands to allow the duchy ai to be able to manage its armies or it should have a boost to its navy so it has the ability to manage troop locations like venice is able to.

78. Skye- The main island of the northern inner hebrides. Had a long clan history and was acquired by the duchy of the isles in the 1330’s. Islands that have been joined with skye include the Small Isles and raasay. Capital- Portree
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skye#Early_history
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/history/articles/lords_of_the_isles/

79. Mull- The Second largest island of the Inner hebrides. Also controls iona a historic centre of learning and monatries . Had twin castles used to control trade around the mull sound. Duchy of the isles control established 1300’s. Capital- Aros/Tobermory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mull#Lords_of_the_Isles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iona#Kingdom_of_the_Isles

80. Islay- The capital of the duchy of the isles and its centre. Islay experices a cultural high point in the 1400’s and should recieve recognition of this in their own province. Jura is also a part of this province however its history is largely similar to islay’s. Capital-Finlaggan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jura,_Scotland#Lords_of_the_Isles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islay

88. Kintyre- The most stable duchy possession on the mainland and also the largest. Acquired in the 12th century when the duke married the scottish kings daughter and received this land as a dowry. This land was returned to scotland in 1476 along with other smaller mainland possessions in order to calm tensions between scotland and the duchy. Capital- Campbeltown
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kintyre#Early_Scottish_rule
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knapdale#Early_Scottish_Knapdale

87. Cowal- The cowal peninsula with the isles of bute and arran. There seems to be a lack of clarity of whom owned these possessions however the general consensus is that scotland owns in but it was previously part of the kingdom of the isles but could be a core of the duchy given they are the successor state to the kingdom. Capital-Bute
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowal#Clans_and_Castles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Bute#Under_Scottish_rule
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Arran#Gaels,_Vikings_and_Middle_Ages

Outer Hebrides- Technically part of the ducky of the isles however their isolation meant they were highly autonomous. This remained throughout scottish possessions with barely any attempt to fully integrate the outer hebrides in to the scottish realm. Many local clans fought for control over the isles and most of the time there was no clear control.

75. Uist- The southern half of the archipelago, formed of many small islands including South and North Uist as well as Grimsay and Benbecula. All these islands fall under the lordship of garmoran and have very similar fishing based economies historically. Capital-Lochmaddy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barra#Lordship_of_Garmoran
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Uist#Lordship_of_Garmoran

76. Harris- The southern half of Harris-lewis. Economy was traditionally distinct from lewis in the form of harris tweed.Capital-Tarbert
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris_Tweed
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harris,_Scotland#Tarbert


77. Lewis- The northern half of Harris-lewis. This province could have fishing rather than a whiskey based economy. Capital-Stornoway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis
I have added these three connected provinces to perhaps give the duchy a reasonable land base on which they can prosper rather than merely surviving under the whim of the scottish. This is historical as the duchy would often raid and take scottish land as well as being resistive that the scottish were not able to fully control the hebrides until the highland clearances which basically amounted to genocide.

Grampian Mountains- This state is too represent what is also the highlands but is south of the great glen. The culture of this is highlander gaelic and remains this way for much of the game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grampian_Mountains#/media/File:Scotland_(Location)_Named_(HR).png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Glen

89. Inverness- From most of the mainland modern county featuring inverness city and its grampian hinterland. I still wanted a highland choke point as was historical hence the 3 forts of Fort William, Fort Augustus and Fort george and so this province does span the entire girth of the highland fault line. Capital-Inverness
https://alexmidd.co.uk/counties/Scotland/provinces.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverness
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_George,_Highland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Augustus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_William,_Highland

92. Moray- Over the history of scotland the extent of ‘Moray’ changes dramatically form a kingdom that ruled half of the highlands to a small county wedged between two smaller counties. Therefore this region is a hard compromise of combining the 3 counties with a very similar history into one province.Capital-Elgin
https://maps.nls.uk/design-assets/img/maps-of-scotland.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moray

93. Buchan-At the start of the timeline buchan seems to of formed its own sherriffdom with mar however it is unclear when excatly but by the late 18th century buchan and aberdeen were combined however as for the entire game period buchan deserves its own representation.Capital- Unable to find a particular town that was most important throughout time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchan#History

94. Aberdeen- A large historic county and city. It is probably the first place in the north to adopt the scots culture over the gaelic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aberdeenshire#History

95. Angus- The ‘birthplace’ of scotland a historic province and county. Scots culture is definitely dominant here. Capital- Dundee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angus,_Scotland#Medieval_history

90. Atholl- A mountainous inland province with a disparity for unrest. This is a gaelic bastion in the grampians. Capital-Pitlochry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atholl#History

96. Gowrie - A extremely rich agricultural province the most fertile land above the river tay and perhaps even in all of scotland. The Carse of Gowrie is often called the garden of scotland. This land is a major fruits producer. Additionally scone would be in this province and is the historic royal residence of the scottish royal family.
Capital-Perth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gowrie#Geography
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carse_of_Gowrie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scone,_Scotland#Traditional_coronation_site

91. Breadalbane- this area was traditionally part of atholl but the land was given to clan campbell in return for their loyalty and for capturing the assassins of James I in 1449 which while just out of the start date does suggest it was seen as a separate entity in order for in to be handed out as a favour. Capital- taymouth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breadalbane,_Scotland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Breadalbane_and_Holland

99. Stirling- the central scotland city straddles the ‘waist’ of scotland and is described as the place where the highlands meet the lowlands and proverbially it is the strategically important "Gateway to the Highlands". Fertile farmlands and the town has been a royal burgh since 1130. It has also been host to many a battle and one of the most inportant castles in all of scotland. Capital- Stirling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirlingshire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_Castle

97. Fife- Still commonly known as the kingdom of fife within the kingdom of scotland. This pays homage to the economic importance of fife with many ports whom oft traded with the low countries and scotland. A Main trade centre in the north sea. Capital-Cupar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fife#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cupar#History

100. Clydesdale/Lanarkshire- historically the most populous county/province of scotland. Previously controlled renfrewshire but they were split in 1402.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanarkshire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clydesdale

Ayr and renfrewshire- split into two provinces; carrick and cunninghame.
101. Cunninghame- the northern district of ayr has been combined with renfrewshire and a portion of kyle(the central district of ayr).
102. Carrick-the southern district of ayr. Has a distinct history of being part of the kingdom of isles and should be a core of the duchy similar to how galloway is now. It also forms the more gaelic side of ayrshire and should have a gaelic culture. Additionally this was the seat of robert bruce who lead scotland to indepence.
https://www.transceltic.com/sites/default/files/images/celtsvikings/kingdomofmannandtheisles.png
http://www.walterjardine.net/index_htm_files/6941.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Carrick
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrick,_Scotland
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cunninghame


Galloway- Galloway is actually a region made of two closely related but rivalry shire-counties. When earl Alan of galloway passed without a male heir his lands were split and so in the 1400’s the lands are still owned separately.

103. Wigton-Before our time frame wigtownshire was ruled separately by the king of dublin and mann Capital Wigton
104. Kirkcudbrightshire- a border province that switched between english and scottish possession in the 14th century but precise dates are unclear Capital Kirkcudbright
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_the_Rhinns
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_of_Galloway
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigtownshire#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkcudbrightshire#14th_and_15th_centuries

105. Dumfries- little reason to split up but here's the link anyway if anyone can see a reason to split this province up cause its currently quite big and would allow england easy access to the heart of scotland .Capital Dumfries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumfries#Medieval_period

108. Roxburgh- The central border shire. Composed of two historic districts that combined to for the sheriffdom of Roxburghshire. The traditional capital of Roxburgh was destroyed in 1460 after hundreds of years of destruction in the scottish wars of independence. The county town was replaced by Jedburgh but the name of the county remained. Additionally one of the most formidable castles in the borders in here and was re-fortified in the 14th century.Finally it is a historic land of the douglas family notable for the black and red lines. Capital- Jedburgh/Roxburgh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liddesdale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxburgh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxburghshire#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermitage_Castle#Under_the_Douglases

107. Peebles- this combination of peeblesshire and selkirk represents the southern uplands whom weren't directly on the border but still prone to english devastation and notable in scotland for not having sea access. This district contained the two sheriffdoms of selkirk and peebles and hence these two counties share much history.Capital- Selkirk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweeddale
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selkirkshire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peeblesshire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selkirkshire#Ettrick_Forest


109. Berwickshire- I have returned berwick to scottish control as it did not get given to the english until 1482 and quite frankly it's too small for a province to represent just the town being transferred and these minor border changes aren't in the remit of eu4 nor BT. Additionally it was scotlands biggest port and so quite a strategic asset. Capital- Berwick
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwickshire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwick-upon-Tweed

106 Lothian- Too small and unfair to do a three way or two way split respectively and so the capital region of scotland was left untouched and slightly enlarged by gaining some central belt land. Edinburgh is described as the principle burgh in scotland and so should be the capital of the entire country. I would be partial to a split however as it has ended up being one of the biggest provinces in the british isles which is unrepresentative for the 3 lothians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothian#Lothian_under_the_control_of_the_Angles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edinburgh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haddington,_East_Lothian#Historical_timeline
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linlithgow#History

Isle of man and jan mayen- no changes to either but have not included them in scotland's area nor province count as that would be inaccurate.

Scottish states- With 37 provinces(A few could be cut perhaps from the outer hebrides or sutherland but also a few could be split namely; Dumfries, Lothian and lanarkshire) 6-8 states would seem a reasonable amount. Scotland currently has a development of 102 giving us 204 development to work with however i personally feel the value of the highlands and islands has been viewed from a modern perspective of the highlands and islands after the clearances which happen in the 1800’s. Therefore the highlands and islands should receive a modest but substantial boost to truly represent the wealth of the highlands. While a large amount of the highlanders relied on subsistence farming they were rather populous supporting large armies fueling the warring nature of the clans. Therefore any increases should be in manpower and production rather than tax as money itself was not the common way in which many tenants paid their chief but instead in kind. Therefore i’m giving an additional 10 vanilla development for use in the highlands and islands.

Format used: state followed by bullet points of the provinces included, suggestion of recourse and development.Additionally included cultural suggestions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norn_language
http://intlhistory.blogspot.com/2012/09/a-brief-introduction-to-medieval.html

Northern isles
Jan mayen, Unknown same as vanilla, 1 1 1 No culture
72. Faroe, Fish but could be whaling if that is ever introduced, 1 1 2 Faroese was very similar to norn and so should be grouped with norn
73. Shetland, Fish, 1 2 2, Norn culture
74. Orkney, Fish, 1 2 2, Norn culture

Eileanan siar/ Outer Hebrides
75. Uist, whiskey/beer, 1 2 1, Norse Gaelic
76. Harris, Wool, 1 2 2, Norse Gaelic
77. Lewis, Fish 1 2 2, Norse Gaelic

Innse Gall/ Inner Hebrides (inner and outer Hebrides could feasibly be combined to one state)
78. Skye, Fish, 2 2 2, Norse Gaelic
79. Mull, Whiskey, 3 2 2, Norse Gaelic (Marginally higher tax due to the Mull sound which allowed the lordship to tax trade)
80.Islay, Livestock, 2 3 3, Norse Gaelic (capital of the lordship and had very fertile land around the loch finlaggan)

Highlands
81. Caithness, fish, 1 2 2, Norn (culture transitioned to gaelic in the late 15th century however at our start date it would still be a 50:50 situation.
82. Strathnaver, Wool, 1 2 3, Highlander (Mackay clan was able to field a large army to maintain their autonomy right till 1800’s)
83. Sutherland, Fish, 1 2 2 Highlander
84. Ross, Fish, 1 2 2, Highlander
85. Lochaber, Livestock, 1 2 2, Highlander (St Columba reportedly meet a poor man with 5 cows and blessed him so his herd grew to 105 cows(i know it's a terrible reason but so much fish was annoying me))

Argyll
86. Argyll, Fish, 2 2 2, Highlander
87. Cowal, Cloth, 3 2 2, Highlander
88. Kintyre, Beer, 1 2 2, Norse Gaelic

Moray
89.Inverness, Furs, 3 3 2, Highlander (Furs to represent both the most notable beaver population in western europe around loch ness and also game hunting for Stags and deer.)
90. Atholl, wool, 1 2 2, Highlander
91. Breadalbane, wool, 1 2 2, Highlander
92. Moray, Cloth, 2 3 3, Highlander

Tayside
93. Buchan, Fish, 1 3 2, Scots
94. Aberdeen, Livestock, 2 3 3 scots
95. Angus, livestock , 2 3 3 Highlander
96. Gowrie, Fruits/Wine could be beer to represent cider, 2 4 2, Highlander
97. Fife, Cloth, 5 5 3, scots

Strathclyde
99. (I seem to of missed out 98.)Stirling, Grain, 4 4 2, highlander
100. Clydesdale, naval supplies, 5 5 3, Scots
101. Cunninghame, Cloth, 3 3 2, Scots (An area made rich on the trade between strathclyde and the irish sea)
102. Carrick, Iron, 3 3 2, Gaelic? (for carrick, wigton and Kirkcudbrightshire the culture is gaelic however norse gaelic nor highlander represent it given it was never really norse but instead brythonic and is obviously not in the highlands)(basically a judgement call probably suits the scottish gaelic culture that forms when highlanders and norse gaelics combine)
103. Wigton, cloth, 2 2 1, Gaelic?
104. Kirkcudbrightshire, Livestock, 1 2 2, Gaelic?
105. Dumfries, Beer, 3 3 2, Scots

Lothian
106. Lothian, Beer, 7 7 4, Scots
107. Peebles, Livestock, 2 2 1 Scots
108. Roxburgh, Wool, 2 2 1 Scots
109. Berwick, cloth, 3 3 2 Scots

Total Development 256 there is a slight increase from the original 244 suggested but on the whole scotland is still very balanced with the southern uplands taking a hit to represent the oft devastation.

Due to a lack of reliable historical sources i have had to rely on the modern 4 provinces of ireland system with one exception that of Meath which is historically been seen as the 5th province.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_of_Ireland#Later_medieval_period
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=counties+of+ireland&num=30&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwizooPN3uLbAhVSDewKHWtTAt8Q_AUICygC&biw=1502&bih=705#imgrc=-_yGlIJx5KcavM
http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/past/history/12501450.html
http://homes.chass.utoronto.ca/~cpercy/courses/6361mcglynn.htm


Meath

The north of modern day leinster was a ancient kingdom of meath that then became a lordship under the normans and the english. To this day it survives in the name of county meath and the catholic diocese of meath. On the coast bordering ulster lies louth. This County historically was part of the pale but was recaptured by the irish so that only the southern border town remains part of the pale. The o’neils of tyrone had been raiding here for about 30 years and finally exerted control over this area pushing the english even further back to dublin.
To the south lies Meath, the name stake of this entire province. Home to the seat of the high king of all ireland and with its central location this province was very important. Terrible reasoning i know but it’s currently owned by kildare and i can't justify giving the whole province when england would only control the coast line and about 20 miles inland. So could have a core/permanent claim on it. But also remember kildare was a lordship of england and so the king wouldn’t declare war on him, Kildare could also be the new style of vassal?
Fingal lies south to neath but north of the liffey and composes the northern half of dublin. The pale was by this stage reduced to 3 lordships and this was one of them, very rich land and to this day produces half of ireland's vegetables.
To the west of meath lies the gaelic west of the historic county with annaly and westmeath forming one province under the O’ Fearghail clan that makes nicely forms the majority of the lands of the kingdom of Tethbae. South of hear lies offaly which is also known as kings county once the crown of england takes it.
Finally north again of Tethbae is modern day County cavan. This county made up the kingdom of east breifne which survived until the 17th century and broke away from breifne in the 12th century. This was a civil war between two clans that resulted in the kingdom splitting into east and west.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocese_of_Meath#Church_of_Ireland_diocese
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Meath#Province_and_diocese
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_County_Kildare#The_Fitzgeralds
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=NSEwAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA110&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=1400&f=false
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Louth#Geography
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dundalk#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingal#Legal_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pale#/media/File:The_Pale_According_to_the_Statute_of_♥♥♥♥_edit.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_U%C3%AD_Failghe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93_Fearghail
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tethbae#Two_Tethbae
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Reilly
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Breifne
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Cavan#History


110. Louth- Livestock, 2 2 1, Irish, Capital- dundalk
111. Meath- Fabric. 2 3 1, Irish, Capital- Naas
112. Fingal- Grain, 5 3 3. Old English, Capital- Fingal
113. Tethbae- livestock, 1 1 1, Irish, Capital- Longphoirt
114. Offaly- Grain, 1 1 1, irish, Capital- daingean
115.Cavan- wool, 1 1 1, irish, Capital- Drumlane

Ulster

Ulster now seen as the unionist stronghold and is in fact the only part of ireland controlled by the united kingdom however until the 16th century it was the last strong bastion of celtic irish culture.
In the south west and landlocked is the kingdom of fermanagh which was a strong and sovereign kingdom that repelled the english and o’ Neils multiple times. With 3 strong families ruling the kingdom by the 13th century the Maguire’s had gained control and established their dominance that would last till the 17th century. Could arguably be a vassal of tyrconnell due to the vast influence they had over the kingdom.
Tyrone- The largest and strongest of all the kingdoms in ulster. It often exerted much influence over the other kingdoms and was notable for retaking much land off the british. This O’Neill clan had some geographical subsections and these ended up making different counties when ireland was shired by the english monarchy.
To the east of Armagh lies iveagh which was ruled by the Magennis clan. These had survived by allying themselves with the earldom of ulster but once the gaelic resurgence was underway they betrayed and attacked the earldom expanding their territory. In the Far east of ulster lies the struggling remnants of the earldom of ulster. They control the ards peninsula and carrickfergus and several small enclaves along the coast as well as the glens. These are fertile lands but are subject to much raiding from both irish and scottish. These however would of been primarily old english of culture. Finally the remainder of county antrim and parts of down make up the clandeboye land.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maguire#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermanagh#11th_century_onwards
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enniskillen#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrconnell#Geographically
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Branches_of_the_Cen%C3%A9l_Conaill
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Donegal#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Tyrone#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Londonderry#County_Coleraine_and_the_Plantation_of_Ulster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Armagh#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magennis#Early_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iveagh#Chiefs_and_lords_of_Iveagh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rathfriland#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrickfergus#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earldom_of_Ulster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twescard#The_end_of_Twescard
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Antrim#History


116. Fermanagh- Livestock, 1 1 1, Irish, Capital- Enniskillen
117. Tyrconnell- Fish, 1 1 1, Irish, Capital- Lifford
118. Armagh- wool, 2 2 1, Irish, Capital- Armagh
119.Tyrone- Livestock, 2 2 2, Irish, Capital - Omagh
120. Londonderry- Naval supplies, 2 2 2, Irish, Capital- Coleraine
121. Iveagh- Grain, 2 2 1, Irish, Capital- Rathfriland
122. Ulster- Naval Supplies, 2 2 1, Old English, Capital- belfast
123. CarrickFergus - Beer, 2 2 1, Old English, Capital- Carrickfergus
124. Clandeboye- Wool, 2 2 1, Irish, Capital- Antrim


Leinster

The south east province that is closest to europe and so been most exposed to european changes and invasion. It is also very fertile and productive supporting colonies of invaders.
In the far north east lies the southern half of the pale with dublin. The Historic centre and modern capital of ireland it is a province of massive importance.
To the south lies the kingdom of laigin which was the last full independent irish kingdom in leinster and even received money from the english in order to be more peaceful and not attack the lordships known as black rent. They controlled most of wicklow, carlow and the northern half of wexford.
It suggests that the southern two baronies of Forth and Bargy remained seperate and eventually developed a distinct old english dialect.
To the east of Laigin and wexford lies the earldom of Ormond with waterford as its capital in munster. However it did hold considerable land in leinster namely county kilkenny.
Finally in the north east of leinster lie two provinces; Kildare ruled by old english nobles outside of dublin and Loigis a minor kingdom that appeared due to the gaelic resurgence. They were given this land for their assistance to the king of leinster and so should be a vassal of leinster.
Kildare with their control of meath as well as county kildare was a force still to reckoned with but as they had become more irish than the irish themselves the native irish kingdoms had no qualms with them. Their Earl was known as the uncrowned king of ireland with large influence over the pale politics and actions of the other earls.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pale#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Dublin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rathdown,_County_Dublin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tallaght#13th_to_20th_centuries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caomh%C3%A1nach#14th_Century_-_Art_M%C3%B3r_mac_Murchadha_Caomh%C3%A1nach
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domhnall_Sp%C3%A1inneach_mac_Murchadha_Caomh%C3%A1nach
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leinster#Early_history
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caomh%C3%A1nach
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wicklow#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Carlow#Geography_and_political_subdivisions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forth_and_Bargy_dialect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Wexford#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_of_Osraige#Kings_of_Osraige_from_the_Normans_to_the_Tudors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilkenny#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kilkenny
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Kilkenny#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Laois#Norman_invasion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lo%C3%ADgis#Background
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_FitzGerald,_8th_Earl_of_Kildare


125. Dublin- Beer, 3 5 3, Old English, Capital- Dublin
126. Wicklow- Copper. 3 3 1, Irish, Capital- Wicklow
127. Carlow- Grain, 2 2 3, Irish, Capital- Carlow
128. Wexford- Fish, 3 3 2, Old English,Capital - Forth
129. Kilkenny- Grain, 2 3 1, Irish, Capital - Kilkenny
130. Laois- Livestock, 1 1 1, Irish, Capital- Laoise
131. Kildare- Grain, 3 2 1, Irish, Capital- Maynooth

Munster
The south west of ireland today is a strong hold of gaelic but it was once home to the second city of ireland and many important trading ports.
The earl of ormonds Munster lands make up today waterford and tipperary however their is much shared history between these two counties and so no reason to split.
The final great earl of ireland was the earl of desmond. This earldom controlled most of what is now north cork and limerick. These two counties and their cities were major ports allowing this earldom to be one of the richest. It was also ruled by the fitzgerald dynasty.
In the far west of munster was fiercely independent gaelic kingdoms. Carbery was originally a principality of Deasmhumhain but achieved its independence in the 12th century. These however were from the same clan and so retained close ties at least against the Earldom.
North of the shannon and Limerick lies another gaelic kingdom that was pushed to the verge by the norman invasion but is now on the rebound. This is thomond
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_of_Ormond_(Ireland)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Waterford#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Tipperary#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_FitzGerald,_6th_Earl_of_Desmond
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Cork#Settler_outpost
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Limerick#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacCarthy#Kings_of_Desmond_1118%E2%80%931596
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Desmond#Principalities_and_Other_Septs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbery_(barony)

132. Ormond- Livestock, 3 2 1, Irish, Capital- Waterford
133. Cork- Copper 3 3 2, Irish, Capital- Corcaigh
134. Limerick- livestock, 2 3 1, Irish, Capital Limerick
135. Carberry- Fish, 2 2 2, Irish, Capital- Kilbrittain
136. Kerry- Naval Supplies, 2 2 3, Irish, Capital- Killarney
137. Thomond- Livestock, 3 4 2, Irish, Capital-Clonroad

Connacht
Connacht is the Far east province of ireland and has a history of strong houses achieving near dominance over the province. One such family is the house of burke whom with two branches control mayo and most of galway. However before the Norman invasion there was a strong gaelic clan who ruled this area but were pushed back back by the de burke's into connemara
Sligo is currently massively oversized compared to the modern day holdings adn even the historic holdings of the clans. Therefore it should be split in to roscommon and sligo which should still be a united tag as the two different clans were very interlinked.
Finally of the border of ulster and connacht lies Leitrim where the kingdom of west breifne is still ruled by the O’ Rourke clan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Burke#Family_History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connemara#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%93_Flaithbheartaigh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maigh_Se%C3%B3la
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Galway#History
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Mayo#Anglo-Normans_(12th_to_16th_centuries)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Conor#O'Conor_Nash_of_Clonalis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sligo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Donnell_dynasty#Territory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Rourke
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Leitrim
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Breifne


138. Connemara- Wool, 2 2 1, Irish, Capital- An Clochán
139. Galway- Fish, 3 3 2, Irish, Capital- Galway
140. Mayo- Fish 2 2 1, Irish, Capital- Ballina
141. Sligo- Naval Supplies, 2 3 2, Irish, Capital- Sligo
142. Roscommon- Livestock, 1 1 1, Irish, Capital- Roscommon
143. Leitrim- Grain, 1 1 1, Irish, Capital- Carrick

Ireland total has 35 provinces with multiple new tags but many of these can quite easily share idea’s due to similar culture and positions just different territory.
Average province size is 2007 km^2 however often these provinces represent distinct cultures and rulers so should be considered as acceptable. Currently post development doubling ireland should have a development of 180. Connacht has 31, Munster has 42, Leinster has 48, Ulster has 43, and finally meath has 31. This produces a total of 195 which is a minor 8% increase and with the added tags there should be no balance issues atall. I would consider adding a modifier to the pale that makes the last two provinces harder to take the represent the giant all encompassing earth wall that surrounded the 20 mile radius of dublin. Alternatively there could simply be two forts there to represent the plurality of castles inside the pale.


These Sovereign states are independent realms ruled by the monarchy but governed separately to this day. Hence the daimyo setup would be most suited to the represent the actual relationship between England and its dependencies. For example they didn't get to vote in brexit referendum despite being greatly affected by UK leaving as they are not actually part of the eu, simply part of the common market because of the single market between the dependencies and the uk.
Obviously i am unable to fully test the clickability of the provinces but i was able to click on both islands to access the current channel islands without having to zoom in to much, The islands could be slightly enlarged in order to make this less of an issue.
Jersey the Southern bailiwick was a historical shipbuilding centre but it was also extremely notable for its cider which made up ¼ of its exports.
Guernsey- Also a historical shipbuilding and trading centre. Consists of many smaller islands and was noted for its piracy during peacetime.
Personally these two entities have a very separate but similar history and so should be individual tag’s with a common Channel island idea group and an alliance between the two.

Then the Third and final Crown dependency is the IOM. This island in the centre of the irish sea has a long history of scottish, norwegian, irish and finally english dominance. It remains a distinct entity today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_dependencies
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_dependencies#Relationship_with_the_British_Crown
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_dependencies#Relationship_with_the_EU
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bailiwick_of_Guernsey#Independence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Guernsey#The_Duchy_of_Normandy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Jersey#Traditional_and_historical_economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jersey#The_Feudal_Age
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Isle_of_Man#English_dominance

144. Isle of Mann- Fish, 2 2 2, Norse-Gaelic, Capital-Douglas
145. Jersey- Beer, 1 2 1, Norman, Capital - St Helier
146. Guernsey- Naval Supplies, 2 1 1, Norman, Capital- St Peter Port

And here I was, checking my notifications before going to bed.

I will say, looks ace. As a Yorkshireman, I do believe that England is starting to lack behind other parts of Europe.

I will also say, slight to the dismay of the post, I have already a baseline attempt at what is missing for England for a future BT update, but less detailed than this. I will also say it looks like Britain will not be in 10.0, nor possibly 11.0, though that is probably half a year away anyway.

Without a full read, I will say that it looks like you've not updated the development based on Dev Doubling. Without reading, I do not know if development is the same as current doubled, if not it may be worth taking a look at making the development coincide with @Draiochts aim to keep them equal to Vanilla levels (x2 for doubling).

As for my thoughts. I added all Shires to England bar Rutlandshire due to it's small size. I split Yorkshire into York and it's ridings, Lincolnshire into its Parts, and Sussex into it's two major Rapes (this is an actual term btw). Also Wight.

Current Ireland was designed by @hr before his departure, but implemented by @Draiocht. It will be interesting to see what other changes may fit nicely, as their were other minor states that existed pre-1444.

Splitting the Channel Islands could well make them the smallest islands in-game, and I believe splitting them was dismissed due to the issue and the united tag used instead of a Jerri (Jersey) one.

Without reading, Wales could be interesting, it had it's shires but also had other divisions between the pre-Anglo Principality of Wales and the Welsh Marches, that will come into play in the earlier start dates.

Scotland had much less divisions. I believe it also had it's shires, but had some Lordships in the north that existed, the Isles being the main one post-1444, but also Ross and a few others (I'm a bit spotty here). It will be nice to see how you have decided to tackle it.

I will take a full look at this tomorrow and write up a full list of thoughts.

Just read your rivalry to Yorkshire!!!!

On a slightly embarassing note, I'm moving to Preston to Uni in September! The horrors, I know!

On a slightly funny note, we have a not very nice name for the Lancs that combined a common sin into the word 'Lanc'ashire........

@Warby_wan

My! Quite the post, my compliments! I certainly wont have time today to go too far into a point-by-point response, but I appreciate the suggestions, and I will throw out a few responses from my quick read =D.

Right off the bat, I'll say you're proposal looks great! I really appreciate the attention to detail and I like initial drafts to be highly detailed, so as to not miss anything. And your reseach, dev balancing considerations, average size measurments, and generally the research & effort that went into the whole thing looks superb!

Originally posted by Warby_wan:

When I originally made this the preview of italy had not been released however i have since looked over it again to create an average province size of 2000 km^2 given italy’s 1850. While they are obviously not on the same level at the start of the game Britain becomes significantly more powerful than italy late game and so should have the province density to represent that.

I do think c. 2,000 km2 might be a bit small for Britannia (I'm fine with the term), though. At our start date, Britannia probably numbered just a bit over 4m in just a bit under 300,000 km2, or a rough estimate of 14 people per km2, and even at the height of the British Empire's power in our period, that had risen to no more than about 50 people per km2. Compared to places like Italy, with plausible estimates of 34 per km2 (or nearly 45 in the north) in the 15th century, Britain never actually became so large, despite its power. Also, while I don't have pre-researched numbers for the 19th century, offhand one of the poorer areas, Naples, still had a density well ahead of Britain with c. 75 per km2 in the early 19th century.

Naturally, as I'm constantly parroting, population does not equal development, which is why Britain has, and will retain, much more dev per person than any of its continental counterparts. Britain was able to consistantly punch above its weight and compete on the global and European stages in a way belying its small population, a comment that could actually be fairly said for Ireland, as well.

Nevertheless, I do fear when all is said and done, I may have to cut more of these provinces than I'd like =/. As we transition out of the micro-state HRE (including Northern Italy), I expect provinces to gradually get bigger, and a 2,000 km2 each Europe would mean some 3000+ new provinces alone, a precedent that would lead towards > 25k world wide, which might be a bit much even for me ;D.

I've made a fool of myself before, spitting out "ideal" numbers for province sizes, but pending specific research into specific areas, I think a km2 number in the mid-high 3,000s might be more resonable for Britain & Ireland.


On Wales:

On the specific provinces, I don't want to comment with any firm answers at the moment, but I will say I generally very much like the outline, even if it is a bit province heavy. Wales did indeed have fragmentation on par with Italy and other areas at this point, so I expected quite a few provinces here anyway. It is also worth mentioning (though again, population doesn't = dev) that Wales had a higher population density than England for a decent part of our period, not to mention political fragmentation and diverse geopgraphy, so the small provinces are justified. Even so, I'm not sure we'll be able to reach a province density where multiple tags for the marcher lords becomes feasible, but I really love the idea, so I might have to try.

Most of your suggestions here with tags (trying not too affect England's diplo slots too much, Wales being rebellious, etc.) are currently implemented, but I was already toying with ideas to improve their implemtation, and I'm rather fond of many of the approaches you're suggesting.


On England:

Originally posted by Warby_wan:

Personally being english myself with family from lancashire and the midlands i see very little basis for a split english culture

Hilarious! I think if JP had his way, Northumbrian would be in its own culture group ;D. I'd be interested to hear you two argue the point out between you.

I must say that unsightly as it may be, some cultures are simply large with comparitively little diversity within them. Russian being an excellent example; It has quite literally 100s of provinces, and most splits would be purely arbitrary so far as I'm aware. EU4 by nature is an asymmetrical game, so I doubt there will ever be a culture split solely to break up a large culture.

Cornish culture further into Devon is a bit of a nod to HR & his original BtP, currently, as the original focus was the 6 Celtic nations. I think a better solution may be improving the borders of the area, though, to represent Cornwall's shrinking influence, wiki link[en.wikipedia.org], though, and go with the more historical option you suggest for Devon proper.

I do agree in concept with the somewhat counter-intuitive smaller provinces in poorer areas with low dev, and larger provinces in richer areas with high dev. It doesn't suit all areas, but England's comparative unity and specific circumstances makes it perhaps the most viable option for proper representation.

Better palatinate representation is indeed a priority of mine as well, so I'm glad we're on the same page! And Yes, I'm inclined to agree, at least prior to any specific research, that a daiymo-like setup would be ideal here, and heptarchy state cores was on my to-do list for the region, I agree with your points here generally.


On Scotland:

Originally posted by Warby_wan:

i personally feel the value of the highlands and islands has been viewed from a modern perspective of the highlands and islands after the clearances which happen in the 1800’s. Therefore the highlands and islands should receive a modest but substantial boost to truly represent the wealth of the highlands. (+etc.)

This is not only correct, but well argued. I fully agree, and I very much like your logic & approach here.

More specifically, I share the frustration with the lack of some decent maps in places, so some educated guesswork from iffy maps might be inevitable, but I generally love what you've made of it.


On Ireland:

I don't even want to begin getting into all the issue with the proper representation of Ireland =D. Aside from the oft-mocked, but dead serious 200-province Ireland option, there will have to be compromises, though the exact form of the compromises is something I'm still pondering.


I have to compliment your attention to detail and efforts to provide things to me in organised formats with facts, figures, balance considerations, and details all with handy links =D! All the way down to getting tired of fish in the Hebrides, I appreciate the thoroughness and comprehensiveness of the suggestion.

This is a huge step forward in the conversation of overhauling Britannia, an area many of our dev team is quite familiar with, yet whose representation isn't as obvious as it might intially seem. I do hope you'll stick around to explain, argue for, correct, & comment on things as the conversations moves forward.

Edit - typo

As a Brit, and a midlander at that, also, this looks dang sweet Warby.

Agree with de boss that maybe a tad dense in some locations, such as the split Isle of Lewis, but on the whole I approve.

So pls try to put as many in Draíocht, as it would be pretty accurate a representation (at least in provincal divisions, if not appropiate density/ size) of the Isles, without going into extreme, 200 province, Ireland details mode ;).

Originally posted by Draíocht:

a precedent that would lead towards > 25k world wide

I remember reading that there was a hard cap of around 18000 provinces in a mod, but I'm not sure if anyone's tested it.

Originally posted by ML8991:

As a Brit, and a midlander at that, also, this looks dang sweet Warby.

Agree with de boss that maybe a tad dense in some locations, such as the split Isle of Lewis, but on the whole I approve.

So pls try to put as many in Draíocht, as it would be pretty accurate a representation (at least in provincal divisions, if not appropiate density/ size) of the Isles, without going into extreme, 200 province, Ireland details mode ;).

Cheers mate, yeah the Isle of Lewis and Harris is probably the one i'm most partial to removing as(or at least reduce it to two) as their administrative history is pretty much the same. However the islands did have distinct clans on it and they each controlled separate parts of the island which had distinct geography and economies with Harris being a sheep farming society due to the hills, Lewis being a fishing and livestock economy due to large plain land and finally uist which is very low lying resulting in a kelp harvesting and whiskey producing economy

I'd also like to think most of this makes the cut, i mean i somehow managed to keep not only Ireland but also the whole British isles under 200 provinces ;)

Also whats your opinion on the cultures cause i'm really not sure and feel that Mercian is pretty artificial as it is with there being a more county identity rather than a regional identity although i suppose east and west Merican could be a thing?

@Procyon
That does sound familiar, though I'm also unaware if it has been tested. If I recall correctly, that Mars mod is advertising > 10,000 provinces, at least. Other than that, though, I believe BT already has the most provinces of any map overhaul out there.

(Please note so I'm not quoted out of context again, that I have huge respect for the MEIOU&T team. Their coding wizardry is well beyond my own abilities and while our focus and style is very different, I recognise Gigau's quality and dedication.)