1. Provincial Products
Many provinces have wrong productions in terms of what was special in the region.

In Aragon:
·Barcelona - Cloth/Naval Supplies (In the city of Barcelona there production of cloth dates back from the renaissance, despite it wasn't as prevalent as the one of Valencia during its early days, it would be the bases of the early industry that would appear on the city in the late XVIII century. However, by the other hand, the port of Barcelona was well known to be the main port of the whole Crown of Aragon, and where most of the merchant and military ships were built)
·Girona - Cloth/Wool (The city of Girona was known for the production of leather, which made the city to be amongst the most important shoe-producers of all Iberia)
·Castell - Grain (The region was heavily centered in the production of crops, fruits and rice)
·Mallorca - Glass (Despite it didn't started to appear in the very late medieval age, the glass industry became amongst or the most important in the whole island from the XVI century until the industrial revolution)
·Pitiusas - Salt (Salt was produced heavily on the south of Eivissa and the north of Formentera)
·Menorca - Livestock (Milk and cheese were amongst the most produced goods in the island, including clothes made out of cow hide)

In Castile & Granada:
·Murcia - Fish/Naval Supplies (Other than being the most important port to the mediterranean for the castilians prior the conquest of the lands of Upper Andalucía/Granada, fish and seafood. By the other hand, the city of Cartagena had amongst the most important astilleros, ship-builders, of the Crown, and the port often served as a naval base)
·Málaga - Wine (The region was known for their heavy focus on agrarian products, specially, fruits)
·La Mancha - Grain (Ironically, there's no Gold in the area, nor in the whole region of Castilla la Nueva, Almadén, the mine that is alluded in the game files are mines of Mercury. The Castilians extracted their gold from mines in the province of León, and still, they weren't that big in comparison to the others around Europe)
·Cordoba - Iron (The city was known for their craftmen dedicated to the creation of jewelry made of gold and silver)
·Jaén - Grain (The production on the region has always been agrarian focus, crops and olives being the most important goods)
·Huelva - Salt/Naval Supplies (Huelva has some famous salt mines. But also, the port of Huelva was amongst the most important during the early colonial era)

In Gascony (under England and France):
·Albret - Paper (Paper was the most important commodity produced in the region, as the lands of Landas is known for its extense forest)

In Languedoc:
·Toulouse - Dyes (The blue dyes of Toulouse are fairly popular)
·Velay - Cloth (The region was known for the emerging textile industry, which declined after the religious wars in France)

In Provence (under Anjou):
·Toulon - Naval Supplies (The city is known for its natural harbour and its shipyard)

In Sardinia:
·Logondoro - Naval Supplies (Both Sassari and Alghero counted with important harbors for the trade of the Crown of Aragon, which were often used for repair of merchant and military vessels)

2.Modifying provinces

The title says it

In the Balearic Islands:
Changing some of the capital names for historical accuracy:
·Mallorca - Ciutat de Mallorca (the official name of Palma prior to the decrees of Nueva Planta in 1715)
·Pitiusas - Vila d'Eivissa (the official name of Ibiza prior of the already mentioned decree)

In Catalonia:
The province of Urgell doesn't make a lot of sense in the context of EUIV, since the county of Urgell fell and became a crown dependency, the focus on the whole region was centered in Lleida:
·Lleida - Lleida (instead of Urgell - Tàrrega)

In Valencia:
The capital of Castellón should be renamed to Castelló de la Plana

In Languedoc and Dauphiné:
I gotta say the situation in the provinces of Velay, Valence and Grenoble are kind of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, no offense. The province of Velay is more, in position, shape and representation, in par with the former county of Gevaudan. Valence should be more sticked towards the Rhone river, as it takes a lot of land that should belong to Grenoble.

@MrXiskov

Oh, these look like wonderful suggestions, thank you so much!

Most of these look very easy to implement, and I'll probably do so soon (next hotfix or 10.0), but major changes like province or tags will probably wait until I overhaul the regions in question. France is a possible candidate for 10.0, though something of a long shot, and Iberia would be a bit overly optimistic for 10.0, but both are very likely candidates for 11.0.

3.Suggestions for newer provinces:

In Vasconia:
·Guipúzcoa - San Sebastián (Guipuzkoa in Basque; culture: basque; production: fish; tax:2 prod:2 mnp: 2; belongs to Castile in 1444)
·Baxenavarre - Saint Jean Pied du Port (culture: basque; production: wine/grain/livestock; tax: 1 prod:1 mnp:2; belongs to Navarre in 1444)

In Gascony:
·Dax - Dax (Dacs in Occitan/Gascon; culture: gascon; production: wine; tax:2 prod:3 mnpo:2; belongs to England in 1444)
·Comminges - Comminges (culture: gascon; production: wool; tax:2 prod:1 mnpo:2; belongs to France in 1444)

In Provence:
·Venaissin - Orange (Venaicin in Occitan; culture: occitan; production: wine; tax:3 prod:3 mnpo:2; belongs to the Papal States in 1444)

4.Politican changes for nations

To suggest some big changes to already existing nations in order to give it a more historical-accurate flavor:

There should be two Aragons and Castiles, ones being the Crowns (the Commonwealth-type nation) and the other one would be the integral kingdoms, which would be the ones that would have the primary cultures of Castilian and Aragonese. With the stablishment of Spain, the Crowns should lose their cores, except the integral kingdoms.

For the flag of a possible kingdom of Aragon, you could choose between a divded flag based on the coat of arms of the kingdom stalbished by Peter IV "the Ceremonial" https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escudo_de_Arag%C3%B3n#/media/File:Escudo_d%27Arag%C3%B3n.svg
or the old royal symbol of the aragonese kingdom, the white cross under a blue field (aka "the Cross of Arista), used since Ramiro I, founder of the aragonese kingdom (in vanilla CKII is used to represent the duchy of Aragon, but with a yellow cross instead of white): https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Cruz_d%27Eneco_Arista.svg/398px-Cruz_d%27Eneco_Arista.svg.png

For the kingdom of Castile, to differenciate with the Crown, it would had to use the red flag with the Castle: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reino_de_Castilla#/media/File:Flag_of_Castile.svg

The Crown of Aragon would have the catalan culture as main one, despite legally both catalan and aragonese were considered official in the Crown, the catalan culture became the most predominant and frequently used around the XIV and XV centuries, still, the aragonese culture should be accepted.

Newer nations that I suggest adding/modifying:

-Lordship of Albret (only province: Albret/vassal of England)
-Duchy of Anjou (replacing Provence, moving its capital to the province of Anjou)
-Lordship of Orange (only province: Venaissin/ vassal of the Papal States)

Nations that should be independent:
-County of Foix (owns Béarn and Foix/is allied with Navarre)
-County of Armagnac (owns Armagnac and Rouergue/ is vassalized by France)
-Duchy of Bourbon (owns Bourbonnais/is allied with France)
-Duchy of Auvergne (owns Auvergne/is under a lesser patner under a union by Bourbon)

Oh, before I forget:
The kingdom of Aragon should only have cores in the region of Aragon (Pirineo, Zaragoza, Catalayud, Teruel) and Castile in Castilla la Vieja, Castilla la Nueva and Murcia (Cantabria, Burgos, Valladolid, Segovia, Avila, Soria, La Rioja, Madrid, Guadalajara, Toledo, Cuenca, La Mancha, Albacete and Murcia).

The capital of the kingdom of Aragon would be in Zaragona, and the one of Castile would be either in Burgos or Toledo.

5. Lastly, Cultural Changes (yay)

-Catalan
·Dynasties:
d'Urgell "de Luna" "de Borja" "de Sagorb" d'Entença "de Cardona" "de Cotoner" "de Cabrera" "de Montcada" "de Rocamora" "de Foix"
·Male Names:
Albert Aaró Adrià Adam Amadeu Antoni Amalric Andreu Anselm Alfons Berenguer Berenguer-Ramon Borell Baltasar Bartolomeu Baldoví Cristòfor Carles Centul Cristià Cecili Caliste Dídac David Doroteu Damià Edoard Emmanuel Estève Enric Ermengol Ermengaud Francesc Fabrici Folc Ferran Filemó Guigues Geroni Guillem Gòrgies Gregori Guisalbert Gombau Gerard Hector Hilari Hug Ignasi Jordi Jaume Jordi Joan Lluís Lluc Llorenç Maurici Martí Miquel Marc Nestor Narcís Nunó Oliver Odó Pau Pol Pere Patrici Ricard Rolf Ramon Ramon-Berenguer Ramon-Borell Roderic Roger Rimbau Ramir Salvador Savarics Simeó Samuel Teobald Tomàs Teodor Tièrri Tristany Tomeu Trimbau Udulard Valentí Vicent Vicenç Ximeny
·Female Names:
Amadora Alfonsa Almodïs Aïna Antonia Alamanda Berengaria Barbara Bartomeva Carlota Cristina Daniela Dorotea Dolors Edvarda Ermengarda Enriqueta Estefania Elionor Francesa Ferranda Filemona Flor Fabricia Gregoria Gloria Gertrudis Ignasia Immaculada Jordana Joana Lluisa Llorença Maria Maria-Antonia Marina Martina Manuela Mònica Narcisa Paula Peronella Ricarda Raimonda Roser Salvadora Samuela Tomasa Teodora Teresa Urraca Victòria Valentina Valeriana Ximena
·Leader Names (surnames):
Alemany Adrover Ametller Aragonès Abad Aguilar Borell Borràs Ballester Bellver Barceló Bisbe Boada Borja Cabrera Cerdà Colom Coll Català Caballer Cresques Capdevila Canyelles Crespí Doart Dret Despuig Despí Eiximenis Elvira Escuder Ermengol Empúries Ferrer Fonts Fontanals Fabregas Figueras Gallard Gamundí Guimerà Gràcia Gomar Goitia Isern Lafont Llull Llompart Martorell Moyà Moll Mercader Miró Mistral Mas Massanella Montfort Montblanc Noguera Olivera Oleguer Ponts Puig Perelló Prim Palou Palmer Palomar Rovira Riera Rivera Rei Rocamora Rocafort Salvador Suviracs Soler Santpere Tristany Torres Valentí

-Aragonese
·Dynasties:
"de Borja" "de Sagorbe" "de Alagón" "de Luna" "de Torrealba" "de Sijena"
·Male Names:
Adrián Amadeo Aznar Alifonso Baltasar Borja Berengario Baldovín Cristobal Carlos Centulo Cecilio Cecilio Chaime Chorche Daniel Doroteo Davi Damian Eduardo Esteban Enrique Ermengol Fabrique Folque Francisco Ferrando Guido García Galindo Gerardo Gregorio Hector Hugo Ignasio José Joan Loís Lorenzo Ludovico Lupo Lucas Martín Manuel Mauricio Miguel Marcos Nuño Oto Pau Pero Ricardo Raul Ramon Rodrigo Roger Ramiro Salvador Simón Teobaldo Tomás Tristán Tadeo Udulardo Vicente Ximeno
·Female Names:
Adriana Ana Antonia Alamanda Berengaria Carla Cristina Daniela Dorotea Dolores Eduarda Ermengarda Estefania Eleonor Enriqueta Francisca Ferranda Flor Gloria Ignasia Joana Loisa Lorenza Maria Martina Manuela Monica Paula Ricarda Raimonda Rosa Soledad Tomasa Teodora Teresa Urraca Victoria Valentina Ximena
·Leader names (surnames):
Aragonés Aguilar Aguilera Amador Abad Abadia Barceló Borja Beltrán Butrón Baldomero Ballesteros Cerdán Castillos Castellano Calistino Castillo Cardona Carrasco Duarte Derecho España Escudero Espadero Esquerdo Elvira Fernandez Fuentes Fuerte Fabrique Falconero Gallardo Guzmán García Galán Herrero Híjar Jordán Juez Lafuente Lorente Lafita Martinez Mercader Muñoz Matas Moreno Navarro Oliveros Pinar Pelaez Palomar Rodriguez Rocamora Ramirez Santamaría Salvador Teruel Torres Torrealba Valero Vermudez Yerbe Zarana Zurita Zaragoza

-Basque (inside Iberic culture group)
·Dynasties:
Abín Arriazu Butrón Eguiguren Garmendia Uriate "de Haro"
·Male Names:
Alesander Aitor Alfontso Alvar Antso Allende Belasko Bermudo Beñat Baladi Bardol Diego Donato Danel Domiku Eigido Eustasi Eneko Erramun Errando Erlanz Frantzisko Fortun Guido Gorka Galindo Gartzia Guilen Gontzal Herramel Joanes Karlos Laurendi Lope Mañel Marko Manrike Mattin Matei Mikel Munio Mikolas Nuño Obeko Odon Paulo Pelaio Petri Ramiro Ruisko Santio Santxo Teobaldo Tristán Vela Ximeno Xarles Zentulo
·Female Names:
Aines Ainoha Aldontza Antsa Belaskia Begoña Berengaria Blanka Dolore Ederne Eisabete Elbira Emili Estebeni Frantsesa Joana Kalare Katerina Konstantzia Maior Haumarri Mari Mentzia Munia Nuña Oneka Otsoa Sendoa Teresa Urraka Ximena Zilar

Originally posted by Draíocht:

@MrXiskov

Oh, these look like wonderful suggestions, thank you so much!

Most of these look very easy to implement, and I'll probably do so soon (next hotfix or 10.0), but major changes like province or tags will probably wait until I overhaul the regions in question. France is a possible candidate for 10.0, though something of a long shot, and Iberia would be a bit overly optimistic for 10.0, but both are very likely candidates for 11.0.

Sorry if I posted so much stuff, I just had so much to add and say. Well, glad that some of my suggestions may be implemented :3

Originally posted by MrXiskov:

There should be two Aragons and Castiles, ones being the Crowns (the Commonwealth-type nation) and the other one would be the integral kingdoms, which would be the ones that would have the primary cultures of Castilian and Aragonese. With the stablishment of Spain, the Crowns should lose their cores, except the integral kingdoms.

But the Crown and Kingdom of Castile are the same country, it's just that the Crown included Leon. As for Aragon, the "Crown of Aragon" wasn't a separate country, Crown refers to the entire composite monarchy of which the Kingdom was the demesne.

Though do correct me if I'm wrong on this

Originally posted by Procyon:

Originally posted by MrXiskov:

There should be two Aragons and Castiles, ones being the Crowns (the Commonwealth-type nation) and the other one would be the integral kingdoms, which would be the ones that would have the primary cultures of Castilian and Aragonese. With the stablishment of Spain, the Crowns should lose their cores, except the integral kingdoms.

But the Crown and Kingdom of Castile are the same country, it's just that the Crown included Leon. As for Aragon, the "Crown of Aragon" wasn't a separate country, Crown refers to the entire composite monarchy of which the Kingdom was the demesne.

Though do correct me if I'm wrong on this

There was a differenciation between the kingdom and crown. With Crown was refered to the whole dominion in which the monarchs ruled over, the crowns of Castile and Aragon were used to refer to all the territories as a whole, the kingdoms of Castile and Aragon were integral parts of the crowns, they had their limits in territory and authority, the crowns, in their purest meaning, were commonwealths, and it could be comparable to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in terms of how the nations were composed. Both Crowns were united under the premise that they were ruled under the same king, but the territories within had authonomy, own laws and their own territories and demenses, the reason why it was stablished like this was for avoiding the growth of power of a singular territory and for some nobles to not have big chunks of lands (like it was common in France and England), keeping most of the territories as royal land. The Crown of Castile was formed by the kingdoms of Castile, León, Galicia, Toledo, Murcia, Jaén, Córdoba, Sevilla and Granada (this last one added in 1492), while Aragon was formed by Aragón, Catalonia (Principality), Mallorca, València, Sardinia (early on Corsica was also included for a brief time), Sicily, Naples and sometimes Athens and Neopatria (duchies, late XIV century). This comparing to Portugal and Navarre, that were singular kingdoms more similar to the ones like France and England. Plus, this governance of a "composite" territory was still kept in Spain until the integral nations were integrated as provinces by the Bourbons after the spanish succession war (1705, 1714 & 1715).

An example where it shows the differenciation of kingdoms in the Armorial of Gelre, where Aragon is displayed two times with two coats of arms, one with the golden shield and gules (used to represent the Crown) and one with the blue field and the white cross (used to represent the Kingdom):

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ef/f3/3b/eff33b97c412dcf4d949819c4524fd3a.jpg

@ MrXiskov
Thanks for the detailed proposals, especially for special things like tradegoods and names !

As for the map changes, @JP and I have a very detailed draft of the area, with ~ 160 provinces in France and ~ 140 in Iberia ( note that some of them might be cut once we get to the final stages of implementing it with Draoicht). All the provinces you proposed are in, as are many, many more. In Iberia we, unlike vanilla and most mods didn't base it on Javier de Burgos's post 19th century provinces, but rather the earlier divisions from 16th and 18th century.

As for the name changes, I completely support your suggestions. Velay is especially jarring, given that the province covers a very small part of the historical region, most of which is in Auvergne.

Leader Names (Catalan, redone, the previous list I did it quick without thinking twice):
Adrover Ametller Aragonès Abad Aguilar Amengual Abadia Barthe Ballester Bujosa Busquets Boada Bibiloni Berenguer Bisbal Borràs Blanc Barceló Bosch Batet Bacardí Cerdà Colom Carrasque Capdevila Coll Canyelles Català Canals Cardona Calafell Comes Duart Dret Danès Domenge Domínic Elvira Estruch Ermengol Espina Espader Escuder Fabra Ferrer Fonts Fontanal Falguer Fortuny Figueres Folc Fullana Guasp Garau Grau Gironès Gual Galinde Gallard Gomar Guimerà Guiscard Jardiner Jordà Lafont Lafita Llach Llull Laporta Llompart Llobera Mas Martorell Mistral Mallorquí Montfort Montblanc Muret Mir Miró Muntaner Millau Millà Moyà Montserrat March Noguera Nadal Oliver Perelló Prim Pons Pitarch Pomer Pina Pineda Puig Puigcerdà Pujol Puyol Rosselló Rovira Riera Rivera Reixarch Roig Ros Rocamora Santpere Salvador Sala Suviracs Serra Sabater Soler Sissac Taberner Tortosa Tolosa Torre Torres Torrealba Tristany Vives Vidal Verdú Valencià Ximenis Yerbe

Bah, Steam doesn't even give me notifications about a mod I publish! Sorry for being late to the party!


@MrXiskov

Yeah, these look excellent, and mostly feasible, thanks! I can't promise immediate implementation of anything, but your very welcome wall of text won't be forgotten ;D.


@Procyon

As MrXiskov alluded, the "crowns" functioned as something of a cross between PUs & unified countries. In Aragon, I've kept the Iberian kingdoms all under Aragon, but the non-Iberian holdings as PUs, though an argument could be made either way. I can't say yet how I'll handle the situation with Castile, but it is an interesting topic.


@Nikicaga

Quite so!

On a minor side note, it might not be wise to be getting peoples' hopes up for a 140 province Iberia because I really don't think quite that many will be feasible, unfortunately. But you & JP are producing some top notch drafts & research prep, so don't let me discourage you ;D.

Edit - wrong word

Wow, really interesting and detailed, why have I only just seen this when I'm checking notifications every hour during the day!

Anyway, to reiterate @Nikicaga, both France and Iberia had low level, starting research done, and I personally am pushing for both to come alongside another update within Europe, hopefully Italy and the Balkans. (P.S. If you were not aware, one of the photos on the main page outline likely overhauls, plus Iberia)

All the provinces you suggest would likely be added, plus many more. Whilst @Nikicaga gave you some rough numbers, that could go either up or down. Also, a few counties under Aragon in the north would likely be in as subjects, and France would be massivly decentralised, hopefully with a 'Fief' government type and special events, the annexation of whom would occur under the Edict of Moulins hopefully.

On actual suggestions, most stuff looks good bar;

1. Paper is not in BT at the moment, and is replaced by Beer. This may change at some point.

2. Ways of represent the 'Crowns' in the 'Kingdoms' have been discussed. The 'Crown' of Aragon has it's three Italian Kingdoms seperated off already, but the Iberian sections of the 'Crown' of Aragon (Majorca, Valencia, Barcelona (county)) and the 'Crown' of Castile (Leon, Galicia, Asturias, Cordoba, Murcia, Jaen, Seville) were more united than in earlier history, especially with the formation of Spain in the 16th Century. Having two tags of the same name should be avoided where possible, such as Cyprus (Latin Kingdom) and Kyprus (probably spelt wrong) which represents a possible tag for the local Cypriots.

Edit: Spellings and a quick note on tags