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Jumps Training by whiskeyo
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whiskeyo  [developer] Sep 19, 2014 @ 5:58am
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Paulix Sep 19, 2014 @ 11:32am 
well, i have some suggestions to you map, i really love this map and i can beat almost every level on first try.

First of all, you should replace the truck on level 9 to make it easier to climb, that truck is very irregular, and make no difference on this jump.
On level 6, its not clear where the player should be, so you should make the next level on normal jump on that barrel piles.
On level 10 should teleport player back when he miss the jump, and maybe replace the box for a ramp, cause there is no point to keep that box.
Level 4 you should make the player jump on the third door to next level, not just the second one
Level 8 (bug) there is a little terrain elevation on middle of the level
Level 9 (bug) sometimes you got stuck on the ceiling
Level 3, the player must walk a lot to take on the point where he need to jump, it should spawn/teleport a bit closert to the jump area.

also there is some jumps that requires 2 people boost to make, it would be a great idea to add something that requires coop work to perform, but with some kind of extra content. ex: jump to using 2 people boost from that ceiling where you need to jump on level 3.
Thats it, i really loved this map and i would love to see some of these changes.

i added you on steam to talk about if you want, thanks for this great map :diamondstar:

whiskeyo  [developer] Sep 19, 2014 @ 4:12pm 
1. I try to create levels similar to original maps, so car is there and I won't move it - somebody can try beat his/her record how fast will he get on quad roof - it can help a lot instead changing map - I'll stay like it's now.
2. I thought about it - I will add some signs to make it easier to get.
3. The same as in first level, I can make teleport from that point (green line to right side of the screen): http://i.imgur.com/zrIChqE.png
4. I will, more popular is second window but as you wish, I'll do that :)
5. Can you give me screen of that terrain elevation?
6. It's buggy even on Inferno (I mean competitive map) - that object of wooden boards is sh*t :/
7. Easy to do, it will come next update.

And what about runboosts? I probably will make it, but in further future. Why? I want to make as many levels as I can, because if there is a lot of objects on map I can't run it - error :x

Thanks for good opinion, I've agreed so we can talk if you want :)
Paulix Sep 19, 2014 @ 5:43pm 
ohh my bad, there is the same elevation on nuke map too, the real "glitch" is a gap where you can see the skybox here: http://imgur.com/LKTS2pj

about level 9, i never got stuck doing this while in competitive, so i thought it was only on this map, about the truck, i got your point and i have to agree.

about the cache level, i think its more like this: http://i.imgur.com/5W4vKjX.png
so people can see what they will need to do from pink point

level 6, its up to you, but i think this is the most popular one: http://i.imgur.com/O25ujLr.jpg

about runboosts, i can show you in game when we have some time ^^
Last edited by Paulix; Sep 19, 2014 @ 5:44pm
irockstone Sep 22, 2014 @ 8:15pm 
i love this map so much!And i think you should add something,such as kz_comp this map you can look this map,pls think about it .
i suggest some comments :
sv_cheats 1
cl_showpos 1
Last edited by irockstone; Sep 23, 2014 @ 7:34pm
Pontus Nov 1, 2014 @ 9:32am 
I suggest a new jump:
The jump on overpass where u jump from a bench to a platform. The bench is located close to the toilet in upper park. The pros do this so they can boost each other and see in to the A site.
Last edited by Pontus; Nov 1, 2014 @ 9:38am
♪ Dready ♫ Dec 1, 2014 @ 1:28am 
I love the map, thx you, I'm improving steadily :)
I would love a feature alowing you to comeback to the previous jump. I play with friends and want to come back to show them. Works with noclip, but easy to get lost in nomansland.

Also would be awesome to add some more jumps and make the difficulty increase gradually:
Some suggestions :
beginner lvl :
> Jump from up-mid to window in mirage
> Car Boxes (boxe next to tunnel exit) Jump on dust2 bombsite B
> jump from heaven to A site on Nuke
then increase difficulty :
> same as previous but directly ladder to pallet on nuke without touching the floor in heaven,
> jump from the ladder to shelf on nuke
> jump from alt-mid to balcony in inferno (the one starting from Terro appartment balcony, by first jumping to the roof before going on the small brick wall then the haystacks truck and finally balcony)
> Balcony jump inferno : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbHcmq1oDCs
> Jump from box to blue door to box on Cache Bombsite A : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoYQNM_CSz0&list=UU08ON4zh7YTEVmDCsF3AiQg
whiskeyo  [developer] Dec 1, 2014 @ 5:36am 
Originally posted by McFlurry©:
I love the map, thx you, I'm improving steadily :)
I would love a feature alowing you to comeback to the previous jump. I play with friends and want to come back to show them. Works with noclip, but easy to get lost in nomansland.

Also would be awesome to add some more jumps and make the difficulty increase gradually:
Some suggestions :
beginner lvl :
> Jump from up-mid to window in mirage
> Car Boxes (boxe next to tunnel exit) Jump on dust2 bombsite B
> jump from heaven to A site on Nuke
then increase difficulty :
> same as previous but directly ladder to pallet on nuke without touching the floor in heaven,
> jump from the ladder to shelf on nuke
> jump from alt-mid to balcony in inferno (the one starting from Terro appartment balcony, by first jumping to the roof before going on the small brick wall then the haystacks truck and finally balcony)
> Balcony jump inferno : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbHcmq1oDCs
> Jump from box to blue door to box on Cache Bombsite A : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoYQNM_CSz0&list=UU08ON4zh7YTEVmDCsF3AiQg

Thanks for suggestions :) Jump from last video is already done, I've made new video but at the moment it's hidden, but that's the link: http://youtu.be/Jl6pC9YoLUs
And now some questions from me:
> "> Jump from up-mid to window in mirage" - you mean like 7th level but from short, yep?
> "> Car Boxes (boxe next to tunnel exit) Jump on dust2 bombsite B" - I guess it's to easy, you just have to press ctrl to land there :)
> "> jump from heaven to A site on Nuke" - any video of that? I'm not so sure what you mean.
> "> jump from the ladder to shelf on nuke" - I can make it, but does it have any sense on competitive match?
♪ Dready ♫ Dec 1, 2014 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by WHISKEY/ng/:
Thanks for suggestions :) Jump from last video is already done, I've made new video but at the moment it's hidden, but that's the link: http://youtu.be/Jl6pC9YoLUs
And now some questions from me:
> "> Jump from up-mid to window in mirage" - you mean like 7th level but from short, yep?
> "> Car Boxes (boxe next to tunnel exit) Jump on dust2 bombsite B" - I guess it's to easy, you just have to press ctrl to land there :)
> "> jump from heaven to A site on Nuke" - any video of that? I'm not so sure what you mean.
> "> jump from the ladder to shelf on nuke" - I can make it, but does it have any sense on competitive match?

Thanks for the fast answer !
Well first of all, my idea was to include easy jumps for beginners (like the xbox jump and the window to ladder room of your map at the moment) with a steadily increasing difficulty. I actually learned several jumps using your map, and I think it can help others even at lower rank. Maybe you can make 2 start doors, to avoid beginner level for people wanting to train harder jump.

"> "> Jump from up-mid to window in mirage" - you mean like 7th level but from short, yep?" --> Yes, would be beginner level, you just need to climb on the rail then jump crouch to the window. However, many beginners don't even know that you can do it.

"> "> Car Boxes (boxe next to tunnel exit) Jump on dust2 bombsite B" - I guess it's to easy, you just have to press ctrl to land there :)" --> indeed, very easy. Maybe without the car, jumping on it directly need a bit of practice for the timing.

"> "> jump from heaven to A site on Nuke" - any video of that? I'm not so sure what you mean." --> this one is actually too easy, I was thinking of dropping from heaven to the pallet, without hurting yourself going down. Maybe jump accross A site from heaven until you reach the lamp on top of squeaky door then vent, then above main's entrance :p http://youtu.be/9YcXgDdn6j4?t=45s (lots of other nice selfboosts in that video)

"> "> jump from the ladder to shelf on nuke" - I can make it, but does it have any sense on competitive match? " --> Well it does, when someone is purchasing you for a revenge from ramp, since he hears the sound of the ladder he expect you in heaven and not on the shelf. But it's true that more often than not, the guys are going to go down ramp without even chasing you xD

But those are just suggestions, you already did a great job !


whiskeyo  [developer] Dec 1, 2014 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by McFlurry©:
Thanks for the fast answer !
Well first of all, my idea was to include easy jumps for beginners (like the xbox jump and the window to ladder room of your map at the moment) with a steadily increasing difficulty. I actually learned several jumps using your map, and I think it can help others even at lower rank. Maybe you can make 2 start doors, to avoid beginner level for people wanting to train harder jump.

"> "> Jump from up-mid to window in mirage" - you mean like 7th level but from short, yep?" --> Yes, would be beginner level, you just need to climb on the rail then jump crouch to the window. However, many beginners don't even know that you can do it.

"> "> Car Boxes (boxe next to tunnel exit) Jump on dust2 bombsite B" - I guess it's to easy, you just have to press ctrl to land there :)" --> indeed, very easy. Maybe without the car, jumping on it directly need a bit of practice for the timing.

"> "> jump from heaven to A site on Nuke" - any video of that? I'm not so sure what you mean." --> this one is actually too easy, I was thinking of dropping from heaven to the pallet, without hurting yourself going down. Maybe jump accross A site from heaven until you reach the lamp on top of squeaky door then vent, then above main's entrance :p http://youtu.be/9YcXgDdn6j4?t=45s (lots of other nice selfboosts in that video)

"> "> jump from the ladder to shelf on nuke" - I can make it, but does it have any sense on competitive match? " --> Well it does, when someone is purchasing you for a revenge from ramp, since he hears the sound of the ladder he expect you in heaven and not on the shelf. But it's true that more often than not, the guys are going to go down ramp without even chasing you xD

But those are just suggestions, you already did a great job !

You're welcome, if I get notifications and I'm online I always try to response quickly as I can :)
What about those levels - I'd think about them, because some of them I think are still to easy, but if I'd add them I'll try not to forgot about your suggestions and make something like "meritorious wall" where you'd be reminded as person who helped. In plans I have to make something like extra level for training longjumps like kz_longjumps2 from CS1.6 (but it'll be still on the same map, just another entrance in room with choosing levels), because it might be helpful for beginners to get basics of jumping :)
Adieu Dec 18, 2014 @ 1:06pm 
Suggestion for Level 10 -- Make the teleporter drop you off slightly above the slope by spool, or flatten the area there. Crouching while falling into the teleporter gets you stuck in the ground. Annoying bug. Good map tho, 11/12
whiskeyo  [developer] Dec 18, 2014 @ 2:05pm 
Originally posted by Adieu:
Suggestion for Level 10 -- Make the teleporter drop you off slightly above the slope by spool, or flatten the area there. Crouching while falling into the teleporter gets you stuck in the ground. Annoying bug. Good map tho, 11/12

Thanks for reporting that, in next update I'd try to fix it :)
Sir Marty Dec 28, 2014 @ 5:28pm 
i think now where is a new train you should delete it and that inferno i think they deleted a ninjaspots and its buggy there but rly nice map i learnt a lot thanks man :)
whiskeyo  [developer] Dec 29, 2014 @ 3:27am 
Originally posted by Sir Marty:
i think now where is a new train you should delete it and that inferno i think they deleted a ninjaspots and its buggy there but rly nice map i learnt a lot thanks man :)

I'm staying with them on that map. Why? You can learn jumps which will help you in next stages :)
WeirdChamp Feb 2, 2015 @ 8:49am 
could you make a button the same as the hint button, but which teleports you back to lobby?
if i want to practice 2 maps which arent after eachother, it would be easier to just teleport back to lobby and go into the other map through the doors. Would be nice, since im lazy Xd.
Very nice map overall, has helped me quite a bit.
whiskeyo  [developer] Feb 2, 2015 @ 9:13am 
Originally posted by 神| Why So Serious:
could you make a button the same as the hint button, but which teleports you back to lobby?
if i want to practice 2 maps which arent after eachother, it would be easier to just teleport back to lobby and go into the other map through the doors. Would be nice, since im lazy Xd.
Very nice map overall, has helped me quite a bit.

Thanks for suggestion, I wanted to make it last time but didn't know how it works and now I probably know in 90% how I have to do that :D
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