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Android Tiers Reforged [LEGACY]
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Winterbloom  [developer] Jan 16, 2023 @ 4:15pm
FAQs & Incompatibilities
--------FAQ-------


Q: Why Advanced Components for T1?
A: The fact they did not have these to begin with was an oversight not a feature, this made T1s spammable and made you never care for T2s, T3s, T4s, only caring about T1s and the T5 which has been removed. After all, being able to throw out a hundred unfeeling and oddly hard to kill T1s for the cost of a handful of T4s making T4s useless? Yeah that's an imbalance. (Despite mods changing this, Like Full Metal, it's better to play the mod as intended. You can always capture and reprogram T1s you know.)


Q: Why has the T5 & M7 been removed?
A: Complicated mess of imbalance, abusive usability, and being given it's own submod.


Q: Biotech Compact when?
A: Technically it is comparable just not integrated, For now Genes do not work on androids, there no reason for androids to have kids either, so they don't. There is possibly some plans in the future for this but that will be farther down the road than most care about waiting for.


Q: Combat Extended?
A: Stop asking us, it falls onto the CE team to do this, and has already been done by them.


Q: Prepare Carefully is Incompatible!
A: One, not a question, Two, don't even ask us to make it compatible it has been incompatible with HAR (Humanoid Alien Races) since back in B19, THEY need to fix their mod, instead of us try to fix something that isn't ours to fix. More information can be found down below in the Incompatible Mods section.


Q: Why does it say im missing ingredients!
A: One of two reasons - 1.) You are trying to use normal human medicine rather than the repair stims from android tiers to do an operations, 2.) You have performance fish and need to disable the "TryFindBestIngrediantInSet_NoMixHelper" patch in its options.


Q: Marauders/Empire keep declaring war on me, please remove this!
A: Again not a question, also, check your settings for ATR - your looking for War of Rights. (Filthy Cheaters)


--------Incompatible Mods-------

This list will be changed as things get fixed or more broken things exist, do not ask for things in this list to be fixed, a chunk of them may not be fixable on our end and it makes us feel like broken records to repeat the same answers over and over. Comments in this discussion that is not related to testing the mods that need more testing WILL be deleted.



Prepare Carefully - Actively hijacks pawn generation and causes many issues later game, these issues are not Android Tiers specific as they are on PC's side of the conflict, the same issues exist in other race mods, and can include but not limited to random pawns having arms for feet, lung cancer in their eyes, tongues for ears. Use Character Editor instead, it may not look as pretty as Prepare Carefully, however it doesn't cause these problems.


Guards for me - guards apply a mood buff to nearby pawns, but drones do not have a mood need at all, so it will throw constant errors for them if a drone happens to be nearby a guard. The mod's functionality still works, but expect significant errors or performance drops if drones are nearby guards. The solution would be for Guards for me to only apply it to pawns with a mood need.


No Random Relations - Currently seems to break surrogates and cause log spam, more testing required.


Common Sense - Must be loaded near the end of your mod list, this is a heavy AI altering mod and can break a lot of things for many mods if loaded too early.


Pharmacist - Seems to work fine so long as it is loaded after ATR, otherwise is breaks doctors similar Smart Medicine.


Quality Surgeon- Stops the ability for mechanical pawn to be tended, if not at end of list (Testing still needed)


Android Tiers - Do I really need to explain why a complete rewrite is not compatible with the mod it was born from? You will also need a new game if you were using old Android Tiers and are upgrading to this one.


Mechanical Humanlikes: Second verse same as the first, its just as incompatible at AT is with ATR, its the future of this mod and should be used by its self not with this one. MH series mods also have more content.


--------Known issues/Changes--------

Smart Medicine - Uuugggg updated smart medicine on their end and stated it should no longer be incompatible, if it breaks again, let them know.
Last edited by Winterbloom; Jun 25, 2023 @ 10:56am
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Winterbloom  [developer] Jun 18, 2023 @ 11:43pm 
Originally posted by Nysch:


I have, ive seen the problems first hand, with ANY mod that adds hediffs, races, and even the base game's hediffs. (btw, cancer and bionic parts is a hediff, thats why the lung cancer in the eye and the bionic foot for a tounge happens, it breaks them but not always immediately) We take it seriously because the own makers of PC wont take it seriously.. in fact, not only I, but multiple mod makers have even told PC how to fix it, and they REFUSED to fix it, saying it didn't break... So we speak out on the issue.. As seriously as we need to.

Edit for some clarity: Its not about fame or anything, and I dont like having to fight PC, but I am tired, of constantly being demanded to fix a problem I can not fix.. its not me who broke the pawn generation, so why am I the one who has to fix it? Even ludeon studios their self, have stopped kind of endorsing PC because of the number of times its caused issues for people.. that alone should be a red flag that they need to fix something.
Last edited by Winterbloom; Jun 19, 2023 @ 2:54am
Roblomine_player May 13, 2024 @ 12:55pm 
Greetings, I have a question. How do I research techs that required T5 androids earlier?
FG_Remastered  [developer] May 13, 2024 @ 6:08pm 
Originally posted by Roblomine_player:
Greetings, I have a question. How do I research techs that required T5 androids earlier?
You install a Networked Intelligence next to the research bench.
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