Some ideas for Digital Democracy Leader Tags

Wilfrid Laurier: @BestLastWest
Tamar: @GeorgiaonmyMind
Mvemba a Nzinga: @KongoBongo
Mansa Musa: @DoughRayMe
Philp II: @NoOneExpects

I know I have made some suggestions before, but I really love this mod so I did some research so I can make some suggestions on how to improve it and add some more historical accuracy to the alternate names and titles. I do admit that a lot of these come down to personal preference and can be nitpicked, so pick and chose what you like and ignore what you don’t.

Starting off with the generic medium monarchy. While the term Petty Kingdom is used for small kingdoms that border big ones, rulers of said kingdoms aren’t referred to as petty kings/queens but simply king/queen.

I am a bit iffy about Digital Democracy, or E-Democracy, countries being called Digital Republics since digital democracy simply just refers to using the internet as a tool to promote democracy, something that we are doing already so just Republic of [Blank] or [Blank] Republic would be more correct. I am also a bit iffy about Twitter tags being used as names and titles because of the reasons I already mentioned, though they are pretty funny.

Technate would be a better name to use for Technocratic countries since the Technocracy movement named their purposed state the North American Technate. And simply Technocracy is kinda bland.

Priest would work better than Theocrat, cause Theocrat is just a little blad in my opinion.

Women can’t achieve the title of Ayatollah, but they do have a position that’s equal in power called Lady Mujtahidehs. As far as I know, Caliph, Mufti, and Imam do not have female equivalents.

Mullah is kinda tricky since that specifically refers to an educated Islamic man and has no female equivalent, so maybe the word Eashiqa meaning misstress in Arabian would be a better fit. Shaykh al-Islam would also be the correct term, not Sheik al-Islam

Ecumenical Patriarchs simply rule over Patriarchates, Ecumenical Patriarchates aren’t really a thing.

Protos, Bishop, Pope, Caliph, Imam, Mufti Archbishop, Pastor, Minister, are all unisex.

Buddism has a bunch of titles in its hierarchy so maybe that can be expanded. The Panchen Lama (whose power is second only to the Daila Lama) can be the leader of a medium Buddist Theocracy, followed by the Lama for a small one, and Rinpoche (which is an honorific for Buddist abbots) for a tiny one.

Jathedars rule over Jathas not Misls.

Tengrikut (a title used by rules who claim to have spirits granted by Tenrgi) could be a good title of rulers of a large Tengri theocracy while Shaman/Shamaness could be a good term for a leader of a small one.

Jainism also has plenty of titles that can be used in the mod. Acharya and Ganini Aryika Pramukha are the highest titles a monk and nun can achieve respectively. Followed by Updhyay and Aryika, Kshullak and Kshullaka, and Sravaka and Sravika.

Priests in Yazdmism are simply called Babas, not Baba Sheiks.

A Sgaanaang shaman is called a Ixht at least for the Tlingit people.

Moving onto civ specific names and titles.

Norway, Spain, Poland, Hungary all have their own name for mayor. Borgermeister (Norway), Burgomaestre (Spain), Polgármester (Hungary), Burmistrz (Poland). Scotland and England also have Lord Mayor (or Lady Mayoresses for women) for their mayors.

The full title of Commanders of the Republic of Gilead is Commander of the Faithful, not just Commander. Though since this is a male-specific title the women could maybe be Wives instead? But since Wives aren’t leaders of nations that one can be taken or left.

Hakim is a unisex title.

The Aztec Triple Alliance was simply called the Triple Alliance. The Aztecs also called the land they lived in Aztlan, so maybe that could be used as a name for modern and future Aztec governments.

Nuwang is spelled nu-wang. Junfa could simply just be translated into Warlord since its basically the Chinese word for it.

Maybe you could add the Batavians (a Germanic tribe that used to live in the Netherlands) for the Ancient Dutch names, the same way you used the Picts for Scotland. Konig and Konigin aren’t used in other countries the same way Kaiser and Tsar are, so King and Queen would work better. Lastly, Greater Netherlands is called Dutchland (Dietsland in Dutch).

Since the Khedivate of Egypt was Egypt under the Ottoman Empire maybe Grand Vizier as a leader title and Republic of Egypt could work better.

Comte and Duc, are just Count and Duke in French.

Since the Holy Roman Empire was an elective monarchy it can also be used for a Noble Republic Germany. Führer is unisex. Third Rech is a bit iffy as a fascist Germany name as it is more of a title the Nazis gave to their Germany instead of what it was actually called at the time. Nazi Germany or German Reich would work better.

The Incas called their empire Tawantinsuyu (Realm of the Four Parts) so that would be a good choice for an Autocratic, Large/Absolute Monarchnic, and Noble Republic Incan empire. It could also be used for modern and future Inca govements (Republic of Tawantinsuyu, State of Tawantinsuyu, ect.). Toqrikoqs rule over Wamanis (provinces) not kingdoms, and Apus ruled over Suyus (or quarters), and Kurakas just ruled over cities.

The title of Ama-shogun (nun shogun) for female rulers is not really accurate since it was more of a nickname for Hōjo Masako who earned the name by living a very cloistered life. Japan also calls itself the State of Japan.

The Mapuche called their land Batalmapu so perhaps that could make for a good modern or future Mapuche civ name.

The Mongolians have their own unique Bhudist leader called the Jebtsundamba Khutuktu so that can be used for a Budist Mongolian Theocracy.

Exalted would probably work better than Sublime for an Ottoman Marchant Republic since the Ottoman Empire called itself the Exalted Ottoman State. Padishahbanu is spelled Padishah Banu.

Rome had its own head priest called the Pontifex Maximus, so maybe that could be the title of for a leader of Hellenic Theocratic leader or just a Theocratic leader in general.

The Zulus had their own state for a little while called KwaZulu, so that can be used as the name of a future and modern Zulu empire.

Lastly the leader specific names.

Genghis Khan and Qin Shi Huang are unique in the fact that their names are also their titles with their birth names being Temujin and Yin Zheng respectively. So maybe they could be called that only when rule large monarchies and autocracy and Temujin and Yin Zheng everywhere else? Though Qin Shi Huang could still be called that with God-King and Confusion theocracies and Genghis Khan could still be Genghis Khan while ruling tribes. Qin Shi Huang can also be Qin Wang Zheng as a king since that was the name he used when he was ruling Qin before he became emperor.

@maxhoestra98 - Thanks again for the suggestions. I'm gonna sort of broadly group my responses by how likely I am to implement them. I will say as sort of a overarching idea that I generally prefer to have as many different names as possible for the different civs/leaders/govs. My apologies in advance if anything comes across as terse/dismissive due to my brevity:

Definite Yes: Technate; Lady Mujtahideh; Buddhist and Jain suggestions (need to look at these some more); Mayor Names; Inca Names; Ixht; Batavians; Pontifex Maximus as unique Roman names for Hellenic/generic theocracies

Maybe: Petty King (I know no-one self-identified as a Petty King, but it helps to differentiate the levels a bit); Jathedar (the Sikh Misl's leader was called a Jathedar, but I could also add Jatha as a smaller option); Tengrikut (it's a lot of work to do for not having another name besides "shaman" but something to consider nonetheless); Triple Alliance (I think it can be good to have the civ name in there if possible); Ama-shogun; Padishahbanu (mostly here so that it matches the spelling of Shahbanu); kwaZulu (will need to do more research on this); Genghis/Qin (Genghis is more likely to happen, just because with Qin it can get a bit complicated)

Unlikely: Many of your notes here are on spelling/unisexness/etc: I've gone with words like Bishopess and Pastoress, which exist but are considered archaic, in order to give a more medieval/old-fashioned vibe and also to give a wider variety of names. The Muslim names (Imam, Mufti, Hakim) are turned into the feminine through the standard Arabic practice of adding an -a to the end and can be found in some isolated modern use; Commander of the Faithful is a bit wordy before a name; Shaykh al Islam and Nuwang are simply variant spellings - the former I adapted to match the other versions of the word Sheikh; Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople is the reference; Khurto Hajij Ismail's title is given as Baba Sheikh.

Notes: Aztlan is used in the Fascist name; Butalmapu is used in a couple names for Mapuche; the Bogd Khan was a Jebtsundamba Khutuktu; for the Ottomans, Aliye in the old name can be translated as both sublime and exalted - I chose sublime because it harmonized better with the Sublime Porte; Japan has no official long-form name in English although it does in Japanese, but from what I can gather that's an ending that's ended when a country has no long-form name. (this is probably just personal preference however).

@SeelingCat Thank you for accepting some of my suggestions. I did not know that words such as Bishopess and Pastoress were actaul titles, so thank you for telling me that.

Maybe Commander of the Faithful can be placed after the name instead? I also forgot to add that Technocratic Republic could also work very well as a Technocratic name, but personally I prefer Technate.

Anyway, I will come back if I got anymore suggestions, but that's unlikely since I covered most if not all of them in my post.

Is there a list of all the circumstances for various titles? I know this isn't technically a suggestion, but thanks in advance.

@fellow mtf - Outside of the game files there is not, unfortunately. You can however, peruse the CivGovLocalization, GovLocalization, and LeaderGovLocalization files to see the different names.

Just downloaded this and noticed a couple things. a) For some reason it shows "Chiefdom" on the banners but "Tribes" when hovering over units in the Chiefdom phase for a few civilizations. Second, for Phonecia when you have "Shophet", it should probably be "Shophetet", since that is the feminine version. I'll keep you updated as I find more things!

Update: I hover over half my cities and the banner and it says Phonecian Empire and I'm called Empress (even though I'm a Jewish Theocracy....?) And the other half of my cities say I'm the Holy Phonecian State (Should be Israel IMO). Any ideas how this bug happened?

Also still says "Sumerian Chiefdom" and "Khmer Chiefdom" on some cities even though they are very much Republics and have been for about 50 turns

@Lordaeth - Thanks for your reports! It sounds like something is keeping the unit banners from updating properly, which is causing old names to stick around. If you can copy the contents of your lua.log into a Pastebin, that may help me find out what's happening. In the meantime, try saving and loading your game and see if that helps at all.

You're probably seeing Holy Phoenician State because Judaism is not your majority religion - I'll see about adding a check in that case to see if you've founded one to use that as preference. And thanks for the heads-up about Shophetet, I'll see about getting that added as well!

@SeelingCat - Just finished that game (was going on Settler to see how things went). A few additions to what I previously said. No judgment on anything going wrong - I'm a coder myself and understand how insanely difficult it can be to mod things, PARTICULARLY things that change the game itself and PARTICULARLY when there can be other factors at play (I'm using the Sukitract UI with your recommended adjustment, in addition to Epithets). I LOVE this mod and am extremely happy with your work.
1) At some point it turned into Phoenician Empire and stayed there despite the fact that I was a Jewish Theocracy and never turned into anything that resembled a) Theocratic or b) Jewish
2) I was playing around switching between government forms and at some point I had about 7 different names running around hovering over different cities and units - you might want to add a check that standardizes it because I would have the newest one in the capital, and older ones the further out I went.

Now for a few recommendations:
1) I went into Anarchy for four turns and the name stayed the same - I'm thinking it could be cool to have a name for an Anarchic State.
2) Leugi's Israel Mod (which I use a lot) could use some cool names and love (just a passionate request), which I'm more than happy to help you with names for (I'm Israeli)
3) Speaking about personal preferences... I was trying to dig around for Jewish names for things and didn't find too many - I would love to help adding some flavor and names for Jewish nations (feel free to PM or friend me if you'd like) :)

Once again - I absolutely love all your work, thank you so much for putting in all the effort.

I look forward to your future work and updates!!

@Lordaeth - Glad to hear you're enjoying it despite the glitches! I've never seen something like you've described where only some names are updating, as it should be all or nothing. If you're able to send the lua.log for this game or for a future game where you notice the same issue, I'd be greatly appreciative!

If you see [ADJECTIVE] Empire (and aren't a super huge empire) - there's a good chance that it means that the mod couldn't find a name and has defaulted to the un-modded name. Should be unrelated to the other issue, but also something that I'm always keeping an eye out for.

There should be names coded for Anarchic states as well - I'm assuming that one of the two above issues is causing it not to appear for some reason.

Feel free to suggest any names here as well - whether it's for common names or for civ-specific ones (like Israel) - I'm happy to include them!

Not completely sure how to get the lua.log but if you give me directions I'm glad to send them your way!

Now, on to a some suggestions. Most of what I will suggest can be used equally for Judaism or Israel as a Civ, because Judaism and Israel have historically (and on to modernity are) intrinsically tied:

For a small Jewish (or Israel) Chiefdom: Shevet (Civ Name) - it means "tribe of ___"
For a large Jewish (or Israel) Chiefdom: Shivtei (Civ Name) - it means "tribes of ___" and is used to describe the pre-monarchic historical Israel (during the Tribal era)
In both of these cases I would use "Shofet ___" for male leaders and "Shofetet ___" for female leaders (you can use Shophet and Shophetet if you prefer - I simply use "f' instead of "ph")

Those two could probably work well for Oligarchy as well, although you might want to use the generic one

For a Jewish (or Israel) Autocracy: Eretz (Civ Name) - it means "land of __". This is super super common throughout history AND modernity, and I would make this the generic one for ALL Jewish Civs and Israel unless otherwise specified.
I would use "Nasi ___" for male and "Nesi'a ____" for female leaders, although you could write "Nassi" and "Nessi'a" instead for aesthetic reasons - it's just a transliteration


For a Jewish (or Israel) Republic you could use "Ir (Capital)" for the small ones (City of ___) and "Arei (Capital)" for the larger ones (Cities of ___), although only if you like the "City of..." formatting, otherwise I would just use the generic one. If you opt for this, use "Rosh HaIr" (or Rosh Ha'Ir if the capital 'I' looks strange in that context) for both male and female leaders, which means "Mayor". No equivalent of Doge or anything of the kind exists.

For a Jewish (or Israel) Monarchy: Mamlechet (Civ Name) - it means "Kingdom of ___".
The leader would be called "Melech ____" if male and "Malka _____" if female.

For a Large Jewish (or Israel) Monarchy you could use "Imperiyat (Civ Name)" meaning "Empire of ____" (although it was clearly stolen), in which case the leaders would be "Caesar ____" for male and "Caesarit ____" for female leaders. Not sure how I feel about this one since the words were stolen and Jews have rarely historically had enough power to make an independent city, much less an Empire, but it could be cool.

For a small Jewish (or Israel) Communist State I would use "Yishuv (Civ Name)" which means "Settlement of ___"
For a medium Jewish (or Israel) Communist State I would use "Kibbutz (Civ Name)" which means "Union of ___"
For a small Jewish (or Israel) Communist State I would use "Histadrut (Civ Name)" which means "Federation of ___"
I would use "Chaver ____" for male "Chavera ____" for female leaders (meaning "friend" or "comrade") for small ones. For large ones I would use "Yoshev HaRosh ____" for male and "Yoshevet HaRosh ____" for female leaders (meaning Chairman or Speaker). For medium ones you can use either.


Fascist States are where it differ slightly between Israel and Judaism. For Israel I would use "Yehuda" as the country name, which means Judea, and refers intrisically to the location. For a Fascists Jewish Civ I would use "Revisionist (Civ Name)".

For a Jewish (or Israel) Democracy and Digital Democracy: Medinat (Civ Name) - it means "state/country of ___" and is currently used to describe the State of Israel.
The leaders should be called "Rosh HaMemshala ____" meaning "Prime Minister ____"

For a Jewish (or Israel) Corporate Libertarian State I would use "Chevrat (Civ Name)" meaning "Company of _____" with a leader called "Mankal _____" (MANKAL being an acronym for Menahel Klali, meaning CEO or Managing Director) for both genders.

Got to go for a bit - to be continued!

@Lordaeth - Thanks for the suggestions! I'll look into getting some of these implemented. For the log, I've found the easiest way is to just copy it into a Pastebin and share the link to it.

Great, I'll do that soon!

For some more name things:

In places where I said (Civ Name), you might want to consider using the Hebrew name for that Civ (which I think would be cool)

The list is as follows:

America (Unchanged)
Arabia - Arav
Australia (Unchanged)
Aztec (Unchanged)
Brazil (Unchanged)
Canada (Unchanged)
China - Sin
Cree (Unchanged)
Netherlands - Holland
Egypt - Mitzrayim
England - Anglia
France - Tzarfat
Georgia - Gruzia
Germany - Germania
Greece - Yavan
Hungary - Hungariya
Inca (Unchanged)
India - Hodu
Indonesia (Unchanged)
Japan - Yapan
Khmer (Unchanged)
Kongo (Unchanged)
Korea (Unchanged)
Macedonia - Makedoniya
Mali (Unchanged)
Maori (Unchanged)
Mapuche (Unchanged)
Mongolia (Unchanged)
Norway - Norvegia
Nubia (Unchanged)
Ottoman - Turkiya
Persia - Paras
Phoenicia - Phinikiya
Poland - Polin
Rome - Roma
Russia - Russiya
Scotland (Unchanged)
Scythia (Unchanged)
Spain - Sefarad (or Sepharad)
Sumeria - Shin'ar
Sweden - Shvediya
Zulu (Unchanged)


Finally I forgot to mention Theocracies!
For a Jewish Theocracy I would probably use "(Civ Name), Eretz HaKodesh" which translates to "_____, the Holy Land " or alternatively "(Civ Name), Eretz Kodshenu" which means "____, Our Holy Land", with a Kohen or Kohen Gadol (depending on size of nation) leading it.

Also I forgot to mention a title for Fascism. I would probably use "Manhig" for male and "Manhiga" for female leaders, which just means "Leader". Alternatively, if you want to go for a more military route, I would use "Ramatkal" which is an acronym or "Rav Aluf" (can be spelled Rav Aluph if you prefer) which is the actual title, both standing essentially for a Five Star General, or Generalissimo.