It wont let me join the society(playing in HRE) all the requirements are ok but the join button is greyed out.

Screenshot:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1590886861

Originally posted by beatbox:

It wont let me join the society(playing in HRE) all the requirements are ok but the join button is greyed out.

Screenshot:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1590886861

Screenshot isn't working but I managed to find the issue.
Will be fixed in the next update, thanks :)

I mentioned this in the comments section, but I also can't join the Roman imperial court even though I founded it. It says to revoke a certain title but I haven't given that title out (Magister Officorum). Thanks!

Here's a screenshot: https://gyazo.com/0e385a0eb43268d36e8241f1b19a6ee6

Originally posted by Ngale:

I mentioned this in the comments section, but I also can't join the Roman imperial court even though I founded it. It says to revoke a certain title but I haven't given that title out (Magister Officorum). Thanks!

Did you fully restore the Roman Empire as the Byzantines?
Did you use the "Restore the Roman Empire and the Roman Court" decision?
How long has it been since you used the decision?
You were personally in control of the society and not a regent when you used the decision?
Are you running any other major mods?
Could you get a screenshot of the member list as well plz?

I realize these are a lot of questions, but theres a lot of stuff involved with dismantling and reforming the courts so I need to check :).

Originally posted by Auirus:

Originally posted by Ngale:

I mentioned this in the comments section, but I also can't join the Roman imperial court even though I founded it. It says to revoke a certain title but I haven't given that title out (Magister Officorum). Thanks!

Did you fully restore the Roman Empire as the Byzantines?
Did you use the "Restore the Roman Empire and the Roman Court" decision?
How long has it been since you used the decision?
You were personally in control of the society and not a regent when you used the decision?
Are you running any other major mods?
Could you get a screenshot of the member list as well plz?

I realize these are a lot of questions, but theres a lot of stuff involved with dismantling and reforming the courts so I need to check :).

1. I was the Byzantines when I formed the Roman EMpire.
2. I used the Restore Roman Empire (or however it's worded) decision to form it. I also used the decision option to form the court.
3. About 3 months in-game I believe?
4. I was never in control of the society, and there was no regent in power, but I do have a designated regent set it honorary titles.
5. I have quite a few mods, but no "overhauls" like CK2+, etc.
6. I'll work on getting that.

Originally posted by Ngale:

Originally posted by Auirus:

Did you fully restore the Roman Empire as the Byzantines?
Did you use the "Restore the Roman Empire and the Roman Court" decision?
How long has it been since you used the decision?
You were personally in control of the society and not a regent when you used the decision?
Are you running any other major mods?
Could you get a screenshot of the member list as well plz?

I realize these are a lot of questions, but theres a lot of stuff involved with dismantling and reforming the courts so I need to check :).

1. I was the Byzantines when I formed the Roman EMpire.
2. I used the Restore Roman Empire (or however it's worded) decision to form it. I also used the decision option to form the court.
3. About 3 months in-game I believe?
4. I was never in control of the society, and there was no regent in power, but I do have a designated regent set it honorary titles.
5. I have quite a few mods, but no "overhauls" like CK2+, etc.
6. I'll work on getting that.

1. While you were the byzantines, was the Byzantine Court active?
2. So you formed the roman empire, then used the "Establish the Roman Court" decision?
4. I meant if you assigned a Nobellismos/Magister Officorum?

Is this a new game?
Did you disable the starting byzantine court via game rules?

Originally posted by Auirus:

Originally posted by Ngale:

1. I was the Byzantines when I formed the Roman EMpire.
2. I used the Restore Roman Empire (or however it's worded) decision to form it. I also used the decision option to form the court.
3. About 3 months in-game I believe?
4. I was never in control of the society, and there was no regent in power, but I do have a designated regent set it honorary titles.
5. I have quite a few mods, but no "overhauls" like CK2+, etc.
6. I'll work on getting that.

1. While you were the byzantines, was the Byzantine Court active?
2. So you formed the roman empire, then used the "Establish the Roman Court" decision?
4. I meant if you assigned a Nobellismos/Magister Officorum?

Is this a new game?
Did you disable the starting byzantine court via game rules?

1. No. It was not active.
2. Yes.
3. No, I did not assign one.
4. Yes, it is a new game.
5. No. Not actively, so as long as it doesn't default to that.

Originally posted by Ngale:

Originally posted by Auirus:

1. While you were the byzantines, was the Byzantine Court active?
2. So you formed the roman empire, then used the "Establish the Roman Court" decision?
4. I meant if you assigned a Nobellismos/Magister Officorum?

Is this a new game?
Did you disable the starting byzantine court via game rules?

1. No. It was not active.
2. Yes.
3. No, I did not assign one.
4. Yes, it is a new game.
5. No. Not actively, so as long as it doesn't default to that.

I managed to find the bug and fix it, thanks! I'll add in a decision to fix the bug for ongoing games
I'm guessing some previous basileus dismantled the byzantine court, otherwise I don't know how it wouldn't have been active.

Awesome! Thanks a bunch!

Interestingly in this screenshot, the emperor's son became the leader of the society, not sure if intended or not. There's no obvious reason why the emperor himself wouldn't be able to lead the society.

https://i.gyazo.com/4332cd401401cb064df227f4b0c6e972.jpg

Originally posted by Doctor Shotgun:

Interestingly in this screenshot, the emperor's son became the leader of the society, not sure if intended or not. There's no obvious reason why the emperor himself wouldn't be able to lead the society.

https://i.gyazo.com/4332cd401401cb064df227f4b0c6e972.jpg

Oh umm wat?
Theres a lot of things wrong in this screenshot and that scares me. The emperor is still in the society while having a regent, multiple rank 3 members have the same office, and 569 members...

Has anything "strange" happened to the hre in your game? Like multiple revolts, conquering/inheriting another empire?

Could you also do me a favor and hover over the "569" and tell me the breakdown of the ranks?

Hmm I'm not sure I have a save from then. Was just on observe mode letting things run for a few hundred years and I wasn't watching the HRE the entire time. However, I'm sure that the emperor did not have a regent when that screenshot was taken, which is why I found it weird that the emperor was not the leader of the society. Also I've seen the number of members range from like 300s-500s since fairly early on.

The only other mod I have that I can think of doing anything at all would be CK2+ factions standalone.

EDIT: Well here is the current status:
https://i.gyazo.com/de91adb2b9ae78966310ba97786f828e.jpg

Originally posted by Doctor Shotgun:

Hmm I'm not sure I have a save from then. Was just on observe mode letting things run for a few hundred years and I wasn't watching the HRE the entire time. However, I'm sure that the emperor did not have a regent when that screenshot was taken, which is why I found it weird that the emperor was not the leader of the society. Also I've seen the number of members range from like 300s-500s since fairly early on.

The only other mod I have that I can think of doing anything at all would be CK2+ factions standalone.

EDIT: Well here is the current status:
https://i.gyazo.com/de91adb2b9ae78966310ba97786f828e.jpg

I found the issue, I forgot to tell the AI not to join if rank 1 is full....oops...

In that screenshot everything other than the vast amount of members looks fine. There are no characters with duplicate titles and the Kaiser is properly set as the leader. I'll test things for a bit to find out why your first screenshot ended up the way it did.

Thanks, you've been a huge help :).

How many members should I expect to see? More recently I tried to take a look at the society member list, and saw 600+ members before the game subsequently crashed lol.

Reloading the last autosave this is what I have now. Seems like the duplicate title situation is back: https://i.gyazo.com/3a2dd2bc50c66c796f7f294a514caf5f.jpg

The Latin Empire did successfully form their own imperial court though with 120 members.