+On hit: Marked for death
+On backstab: Marked for death + Gain 2 secs of guaranteed crits
-No random critical hits
-Backstab deals normal swing damage

Ursprünglich geschrieben von BlackNecromancer:

I like the idea of the marking for death.:demoticon:

on backstab: marked for death
on backstab: forces victims to... laugh? stunned? something like that so you can get away
+30% more heath
backstabs deal no damage

I like your idea the best so far.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zeptimus:

+On hit: Marked for death
+On backstab: Marked for death + Gain 2 secs of guaranteed crits
-No random critical hits
-Backstab deals normal swing damage

I do like the idea of crits but this would probably mean there will be alot of frantic spam stabs, so mabey this wep could mark for death and be paired up with kind of like a bushwacka revolver? deals crits when minicriting so you can mark them, retreat and finish them off from a range.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von BlackNecromancer:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zeptimus:

+On hit: Marked for death
+On backstab: Marked for death + Gain 2 secs of guaranteed crits
-No random critical hits
-Backstab deals normal swing damage

I do like the idea of crits but this would probably mean there will be alot of frantic spam stabs, so mabey this wep could mark for death and be paired up with kind of like a bushwacka revolver? deals crits when minicriting so you can mark them, retreat and finish them off from a range.:p2aperture:

No, that could kill of knifing once and for all, when we include the enforcer.

I hope vaulve puts this wepon on tf2! It's awesome looking!

+Alt fire: set a teleportation point
+On backstab: Marked for death and player is teleported to set point
-Wearer cannot cloak

And also maybe the knife can't kill, so he will be a "team spy" marking people for death

Face Stab: Immediate removal of all but 10 health, and any further hits by the spy don't do anything.
Back stab: Instant kill (as usual). Leaves behind a trail of ink for x amount of seconds (propbably
3-10 seconds). 2 seconds after death, corpse fades away, leaving behind a large stamped TF 2 symbol (as noted by The Strange) on the ground. If taking revenge, kill feed says "{Player_spy} has denied {Player_?}". If this starts a domination, kill feed says "... is approving ...".
+110% run speed while holding.
-Honorbound.

Stats:

Backstab stuns enemies for three seconds (like Holiday Punch)
Backstabs deal no damage
Backstabs mark enemies for death
-15% damage penalty

These stats reflect the Spy's role as a "support class".

Ursprünglich geschrieben von {SH} The Lone Rager:

Stats:

Backstab stuns enemies for three seconds (like Holiday Punch)
Backstabs deal no damage
Backstabs mark enemies for death
-15% damage penalty

These stats reflect the Spy's role as a "support class".

Seems like a straight downgrade from a regular knife, dealing less damage and backstab is less effective. Although I suppose it might be better in a few unusual circumstances if the enemy is currently under an effect that prevents backstabs from instant killing them (such as Dead Ringer or Bonk). I would never use it with those stats though.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von xandermanderpi:

Face Stab: Immediate removal of all but 10 health, and any further hits by the spy don't do anything.
Back stab: Instant kill (as usual). Leaves behind a trail of ink for x amount of seconds (propbably
3-10 seconds). 2 seconds after death, corpse fades away, leaving behind a large stamped TF 2 symbol (as noted by The Strange) on the ground. If taking revenge, kill feed says "{Player_spy} has denied {Player_?}". If this starts a domination, kill feed says "... is approving ...".
+110% run speed while holding.
-Honorbound.

I am not fond of the combination of honor bound and not being able to kill your opponent by stabbing him multiple times without making a backstab. The fact there is a model of the weapon drenched in blood does lend itself to honorbound or the trail of blood that other people mentioned. I do think this weapon should leave some sort of calling card at the site of the murder.

When backstabing you cloak.(because of backstab) Leaves a trail of Red/Blue ink for 3 seconds.

well whats the point of 20% more damage if your going for backstabs

+10% damage bonus
+15% fireing speed
+30% faster cloak speed
+20% movment speed when cloaked
- 40% less cloak regain
- 25 health

Ursprünglich geschrieben von SwordMastaKilla:

+10% damage bonus
+15% fireing speed
+30% faster cloak speed
+20% movment speed when cloaked
- 40% less cloak regain
- 25 health

This is why we let Valve do stats

The Pros :

on Backstab , Give U Speed Of The Same Speed When You Get Hit By The Disciplinary Action For 3 Seconds

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The Cons :

Your Speed Will Be Like Demoman Speed , All The Time

The Cloake And Dagger Will Decreases So Fast While You On Speed