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But, isn't this idea kind of like the Distant Origins civics mod? I think mzilli did a good job of creating an exiled/conqueror dynamic with his in-game dialogue and empire personalities.
How about one where your species recently emerged from a world war? Your species would already be very militarised and there would be constant problems from the losers of the war being dissatisfied with the current rule.
Hi @FlashGordon33, I really like the idea of the Collapsed Empire, but right now I think it would be a major challenge to make since I would like the mod to give the galaxy a lot of backstory. That being said, I do plan to take on this idea sometime in the future, but maybe as a stand-alone start separate from this mod.
With regards to recently emerging from a world war, this is an idea I would like to pursue but am unsure how to balance it. Can you suggest what bonuses the civic should give? Or what the mid-game bonus would be? I appreciate your help!
How about an "Extragalactic" civic? Like, you'd spawn in a random system and a few advanced techs from your home galaxy, and maybe there'd be other colonies sent out before you. Maybe rebels, or on the flip side, YOU'RE the rebels and you have to avoid notice from a powerful "outpost" empire loyal to the home galaxy send to find you until you're strong enough? I think a custom fallen empire would fit the mold well enough
Maybe they spot you/are certain you're the filthy rebels they're looking for once you research a "signature" technology of their people?
I definitely would love to explore your mod idea at some point. Right now I am giving it a go with The Preserve Start mod to add backstory to your galaxy. Let me know if you would like to work together to write some events and give backstory. @FlashGordon33, you are also welcome to work together to flesh out the collapsed empire scenario too!
Thanks for the ideas!
I'm not sure I'm really up to working together over a long term, if that's what you're talking about, but I do have some ideas I could toss you now.
One obvious idea is that your home galaxy was united peacefully and your new empire is the result of a state-backed colonisation program uniting the various species on a new frontier. Basically syncretic evolution but with a few more goodies.
Another idea following that vein is that the home galaxy was united... less than peacefully, and sent out a similar program, but more focused on "expanding our glorious empire's reach" or something like that.
With this, you could have other empires from the home galaxy spawn, sent to the new one in an attempt to flee subjugation/extinction at your hands. These could range from normal empires that are fresh off the space-boat, to more advanced ones trying to establish themselves and make a new life, or some of the Old Empire's first enemies that have sworn their very existance to returning and destroying you, and have since risen to and fallen from grace. Despite their diminished capabilities compared to how they were at their height, they are more than okay with snuffing you out as an appetizer before going after the rest in the home galaxy.
Balancing that last one will probably be rather difficult, though I find myself pissing off all the FEs sooner or later, so maybe it won't matter that much.
Another could be that your home galaxy was attacked by the Prethoryn or suffered an AI rebellion, but I'm not really sure what to do with that in the main game short of just making them a definite thing, or happen sooner. Maybe a little debuff toward relations with other empires because they see you as the galaxy's local nutjobs, followed by some massive boost once the old enemy turns up again?
There are literal worlds of possibilities as to what you could do with stuff like this, but this is all I can think of at the moment.
Thanks for taking an interest in my idea, and your's is certianly interesting as well.
I've never used this Preserve mod, so I've no real preferences as to whether or not you should use it. I'm just plopping out ideas. You're doing the legwork, so this is your mod IMO.
Do as you wish