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When the World Stopped Making Sense

Version: 0.1.5
Checksum: ????
Compatibility: CK3 Vanilla 1.12.4

Direct download links are accessible only via the mod thread, in the latest release threadmark, labelled something like Release x.x.x.

FAQ and Known Sub-Mod Compatibility is listed on our wiki[ck3.paradoxwikis.com]

Description:

This mod builds upon the existing WtWSMS mod for CK2, which you may or may not be already familiar with (if not, do not hesitate to check it out, CK2 is free!). It aims to represent the period known as the Early Middle Ages, Late Antiquity or "Dark Ages", with start dates in 476, 535 and much more.

Features:

These are the major features that are planned for the mod in 1.0.0. Note that not all of these features are implement yet, as we are still in Alpha.

- New bookmarks and timeline, play between 476 and 800, with all emblematic dates being featured
- Complete redesign of the culture map, dozens of new cultures with accompanying melting-pots
- Overhauled religions, with unique heresies and schisms, ranging from Christian church councils to the Rise of Islam
- A unique government system with transitions and continuities, from Bureaucratic, Gupta and Sassanid rulers to Sub-Roman realms becoming Feudal
- Dynamic decisions and events giving birth to new empires and leading to the implosion of old realms
- Migration mechanics designed dynamically to give choice to players and the AI, with special features for Slavic tribes
- Decaying Roman legions, reconquest mechanics and foederatus contracts
- Flavour events to give a distinct feeling while playing in all regions across the map
- Play in your language of choice - full translations for English, French and Spanish

Further Information:

For full and detailed information on the mod, or to have the best chance of any questions or bugs being addressed, please head to our thread on the Paradox Forums[forum.paradoxplaza.com].

Find us on Discord! Here is a permanent unlimited link to the WtWSMS Discord: https://discord.gg/aYPuw7BGRu
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Abaçı 9 hours ago 
Do you get a casus belli on the other half of Roman Empire when you become emperor on one half? If so is it limited to culture, traditions etc? After accidentally deleting a save I wanted to revert to I just started a game again as Theoderic the Great and what a lucky game this has been! I was conquering some territory outside Macedonia and came across a small contingent that emperor was leading, captured him and forced peace, later swore fealty to Basiliscus because Odoacer conquered Italy and Romulus, who I've managed to betroth to my daughter lost the empire and Nepos became Emperor in the West of Dalmatia. 2-3 years later Basiliscus died and I was elected emperor of the East just 6 years into the game. I married Anicia Iuliana for her claim on the Western Empire but I can't press it with her a woman and Emperor not a child and even if I could, I'd prefer if I didn't have to wait a generation to unite Rome after such a lucky break.
Henchmen no. 25 May 13 @ 4:25pm 
Making Irish and Gaelic distinct culture groups is odd. It makes sense if its like an Armorican versus Gaulish thing, where differences between Armorican and Gallic is emphasized to create a launching point for Breton.

If that is so, a better work around linguistically would be to make the conventional Irish territories Gaelic, and make the Dal Raidan territories be Innse Gaelic. Then you can use culture events to have Innse Gael transition to stay as is, mutate into Gall Ghaidheil (Norse Gaelic) or Gaidhlig (Scottish Gaelic) or conform back to the conventional parent culture (Gaelic.)
Abaçı May 8 @ 11:56am 
@Symmachus, I created a historical suggestions thread if it is ok since posts here is limited to 1000 characters and are bound to get lost among pages.
Symmachus  [author] May 8 @ 8:17am 
Again, the legends of Heidrik Ulfham never associate
him with Africa, only with Northern Europe -- yet it was well known
throughout Europe, even Scandinavia, that the Vandals had migrated to
North Africa. One would expect some trace of that in the legends of
Heidrek Ulfham if it were true that he was based on the historical
Hilderic the Vandal.
Symmachus  [author] May 8 @ 8:17am 
Since the area of Heidrik's kingdom was associated with both the
German Vandals and the Slavic Wends, and since some later writers came
up with a false theory that the Vandals and the Wends were the same
people, someone came up with the idea that Heidrik Ulfham was a
legendary memory of the historical Vandal king Hilderic, and thus
invented a descent from the Vandal kings through the legendary kings
of Denmark and Sweden. However, there is simply no proof that Heidrik
Ulfham was Hilderic -- the names might seem similar, but just as the
Frankish royal name Hilderic is found in Old Icelandic texts as
Hjalprekr, so we should expect a Vandal king named Hilderic to be
mentioned in Old Icelandic texts as Hjaldrekr, or something like that,
not Heithrekr.
Symmachus  [author] May 8 @ 8:17am 
I will just quote the old post of Jared Linn Olar on soc.gen.medieval:

As for Hilde, daughter of Hilderic, I've seen that spurious filiation
several times. It's based on a medieval Icelandic legendary pedigree
of Ivar Vidfadmi, a legendary conquering king of Scania, Denmark,
Sweden, Russia, and Northumbria who, again, may not have existed. The
pedigree first appears, I believe, in certain manuscripts of the
Hervarar Saga ok Heithreks Konungs. Ivar was supposedly descended
from a princess named Hild, daughter of Heidrik (Heithrekr) Ulfham,
King of Reidgothaland, traditionally identified as Jutland and/or
Mecklenburg. However, I've not yet found any early texts that
identify Hild's husband as Frode -- Hervarar Saga says she married a
Danish king named Valdar, but other Old Icelandic sources show Valdar
as an apparent descendant, not husband, of Hild.
Symmachus  [author] May 8 @ 8:16am 
About the legends - our rule is not add legendary characters, unless there are any historical replacements for them at all. In addition, Hilde's father could not be identified as Vandal king Hilderic.
Symmachus  [author] May 8 @ 8:16am 
@Abaçı No, I don't know anything about Diogenianus' origins. If it helps, he is described as συγγενέα τῆς Αὐγούστας (Augustae cognato) by John Malalas. There is in fact another spot in this tree where Diogenianus can be tentatively placed. Basiliscus and Verina had an unnamed sister who married certain Zuzus, evidently a Thracian. That's where we also placed Julius Nepos' wife, making her a daughter of Zuzus.
Abaçı May 6 @ 5:53am 
An addition, the stemma in "Anicii of Gaul and Rome" that I previously added does show Petruc Marcellinus Felix Liberius as uncle of Maximus consul of 523 but it was another source as I came by this source very recently and had already added him as an uncle based on another source.
Abaçı May 6 @ 5:51am 
@Symmachus I'd also like your opinion on Diogenianus a Patrician in 518 (and possibly also mentioned before). He is explicitly stated to be kinsman of Empress Ariadne but I couldn't find a person who can possibly be the parent neither in Aelia Verina's family nor in Leo's family and indeed the single source I could find that gives a postulated relationship makes him the son of Longinus but this also shouldn't be considering his only known child, a daughter was retired to a convent along with Longinus' wife and his mother after his failed rebellion.