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Once i stopped looking for a field, its was quite easy to find! ;-) happy hunting!
currently i play:
The Tools of the gray Fox by you
Thieves Guild requierements-No Auto Quest Start - kryptopyr
Larceny- Pickpocketing Remastered -TheGrayLight
Localized Thieves Guild Jobs - Lukeh_ro
Bordersense - Verteiron
Backpack - Jokerine and rebel-o-conner (sorry, can't write the first name correctly)
Camping Lite - McGuffin
Bottom of the Well - Ghost
s70's Cache Sacks II - s70
they all work well together and give a rather good thieving expeariance.
will add now:
Owning Goldenglow Estate - Traumend
and Thieves Guild "Former Glory" Enhancement - Android 17
Thank you very much again for your major contribution to this distinguished "Thieving" list!
i found it made especially much sence combined with:
"Thieves Quild Requirements-No Auto Quest Start" by kryptopyr
You can practice all your skils bevore being asked to join the guild.
my only regret is that non of the thives seamed to notice my very special armour ;-)
btw this is a awesome mod
So after much testing I've found that the ONLY way I could get the the Key to the Step of the Fox was to stop EVERY OTHER MOD EXCEPT TOOLS OF THE GRAY FOX then exit and use the console to remove the Prowler's Profit spell from my character [it seemed to be interfereing with his spawning with the key in his inventory.] Then I had to reenter Mistveil keep and find the NPC that holds the key select him with the console and then disable/ enable him and viola he finally had the key for me to pick pocket. However doing this broke that save for me and I had to use the id of the key [found with the console to be 0a001863, for me at least.]
then I had to exit the game, launch it again, load all my mods again, use an unbroken save and reenter, re-disable/ enable this NPC and add it to to his inventory using the console so I could pickpocket it from him as intended.
What is this key's bas, ref, and or object id? Otherwise this quest has fatally broken for me.
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