I wonder if someone could make a compatch for Empire Buildings Mod, as with it, additional class buildings do not show up, which is kind of a bummer. Still, great mod all around.

I second the all classes combined request.

No peacekeeper+creation?

I LOVE this mod. I love 'All Vanilla'. Could I get 'All Classes Combined' too, please?

I LOVE this mod. I love 'All Vanilla'. Could I get 'All Classes Combined' too, please?

@Paleenchantress This is sometimes the case with MP games. Often they can cope with lot less mods than single play so try to keep mods in MP to a minimum. Around 12 usually works.

@Loboramdk This is a question that I and several others have asked several times. The mod creator has more or less stopped updated the mod (but we would all be very happy if he did one more update with Total Good and Total evil combo )

I had earlier posted this mod caused a crash when trying to host multiplayer. I was mistaken it's having this mod and hero professions on at the same time. Odd as they both work on their own and they both work together in single player. Oh well

I am sure that I am not alone, in greatly appreciating your work, so thank you.

Just wanted to know, is there any particular reason, why there isn't an option, to combine Shadowborne with Destruction, or any of the magical spheres?

@Samurai190 I would like a compatibility patch for Chivalrous Intentions. Units of other specializations do not appear when selecting additional specializations

If you have empire building mod I suggest you disable it. I experienced the same problem with the class buildings not showing up.

The short of it is, since you're specially duplicating second variants of all class units, and I believe research, to achieve this mod, it'll probably be better, both balance-wise and for fun, to remove the specialization versions of the class' casting research, to avoid far too unfairly high casting points and far too cluttered research tabs, and also perhaps allow create duplicate class buildings for the specialization which are unlocked from an always present research for the respective class.

This way, you'd still clutter the tab enough, and make it harder to get specific research options in exchange for the power of multiple classes, and will force more investment to achieve a larger variety of units, but will avoid having too much power but not giving infinite casting points per turn, and will, after researching the single research that allows you to make class buildings, leave the permanent to varying research options to 4/8, 5/7 and 6/6 at 2, 3 and 4 classes respectively.

Furthermore, given each class' upgrades are priority and permanent, and can't be swapped out with inspiration, instead of the usual 3 unchangable research choices (until fully researched), and 9 varying, you end up with 5/7, 7/5, and 9/3 when having 2, 3 or 4 classes respectively. While I agree it's a good balancing measure, that doesn't really work out, as you have at will +100 mana cap, +10 casting points from up to 4 classes, and all of them starting at their cheapest base cost, making it cost ridiculously cheap amounts to get to 100 casting points, and letting you go well and beyond that.

then there is the fact that the other 4/9 upgrades are unit chains, of which 3 are potentially utterly useless to you, as you cannot build the class building for them. Druid and Sorcerer mostly avoid this with having only one wasted research, as all but 1 of their class units are summoned, but even so, this is both unfun and unbalanced in wasting space and not doing anything.

Pardon, this is a tad too long, so I'll drop it in 3 consecutive comments to make it fit.

Heya, thanks for the great mod. I think there are some loopholes to be noted though. Now, obviously, this mod cannot act with balance fully in mind given its goal, so while having multiple classes via it results in multiple instances of the +max mana stock, +max casting points research, I understand why you'd want it to stay, even if its power is rather hefty.

Another issue, however, is class units. As while it lets you summon class units, it does not let you recruit ones from cities - or rather, it would, but you cannot build the class building for a respective class, say if you were both a Dreadnought and Warlord. If your starting class is Dreadnought, you cannot build the Warlord's building and have no point in any of the unit research the class offers, unless you get lucky and capture and opponent Warlord's city with the corresponding class building built up to the necessary level first.

Hopefully it will arrive

Seems like many are looking for this; I may want to do something about it. If it's "easy" to regroup spec together I could do it, if I need to copy paste all spells in the game for all possible combinations it's too much work I think. I will check it.

better late than never ;)

Still holding out hope for a Ayalin-Deluxe Patch. Who I gotta suc to make this happen?

I'm curious, how do the alignment specialisations work together? I'd imagine that if you hit the dedicated to good/evil/neutral talents, it might get funky.

I actually get it working with EBM without any crashes.

Any chance to get a specialization with multiple classes?

Apparently this mod does not work correctly with the empire building mod. Heres to hoping for someone making a compatibility patch.

The class specialisations don't seem to work for me, I can research class specific upgrades, but the buildings don't show up. I have a hero that's sorcerer first but has the dreadnought and theocrat specialisations but only the sorcerer building shows up. I have a lot of mods on, but I'm wondering if I'm just missing something before start shuffling mods.

Does the necromancer-specialisation cause crashes for anybody else?


I didn't play in a while, but when I did, I couldn't get that one to work ( game-creation would crash whenever Leaders with it were used - either by me, the AI or (supposedly) randomly selected by the AI ) ...
( Or might that have been a conflict with Quo's CrossClass-mod?? )

All others worked fine, though.

thank you!

Got it. Thanks.

They are just the vanilla specializations combined, fully as they were, untouched.

Just to clarify, are combination specialization equivalent to all of their included specializations at full strength? Or are the combo specializations reduced in individual specialization power to balance them against the vanilla dedicated specialization?

can you add warrior, rogue and others in one combo? and no necromance curse, if it possible

That doesnt work for me (and has never done so). As soon as I have an class building that is not of my major class it becomes "red" and I cant produce the troops of that class. For example, if I choose Sorc/warrior, I cant produce manticores but if I choose warrior/sorc I cant get both tier IV since sorc has a summoning spell and isnt dependant och class buildings. But, as I said before, I run the game with several mods for example everything that has to do with Empire Building mod, Legendary units, New Arsenal and several others. The game is stable, although it seems that this mod doesnt work all the way

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Are you sure about that, Fonzosh? I have no problems with having class specific buildings of two or more classes in the same city.

@kerovanka Strange bug. I have all the DLCs and several mods running and it works without a fault in my PBEM games (with several friends who has the same configuration). Are you sure you are not talking about the units that need the class specific building? The units that need the class specific building is not possible to get with this mod since you cannot have 2 class specific buildings in the same town.

I have DLC bought

I must say, I am not sure what could be causing it. What especially confuses me is that it only works for the Eternal Lords expansion.

I checked integrity game file(all it's okay)

after the construction of the building headquarters military commander the units did not appear. this is not only related to military commander, other specialization they don't work either.
only from tigran and frostling all work. so for goblins, draconians, high elf, dwarfs, orcs and human
too not works(. I don't know why. you made a very good mod. i am love yuor mod, but it doesn't work just right((

I am confused, I don't seem to have the problem of not seeing warlord units. Can you describe the problem in more detail?

i have bug: took a wizard+warlord+goblins. cant see units of the warlord! it is bug. only for tigran and frostlig everything works without bugs. other races except tigran and frostling working with a bug.
I AM TESTED YOUR MOD WITHOUT OTHER MODS!!!! (so nothing overlaps!!).
Just below write about it alextherus. Do yuo fix this problem?

Can't say I really have any news to give, my modding spark still remains unlit, for now.

Any news on Ultimate evil (Shadowborn+destruction) and ultimate good (keeper of peace+creation)? Me and my friends thinking of starting a long PBEM game soon and would like to have these on each side.

As long as nothing overrides them, you do.

Do you get to build the chosen specialization class buildings and units? I don't see them (don't know if it is because of incompatibility with another mod)

Accordning to me it is working perfectly

Is the mod not working now?

Ive sugested to the dev that great evil and great good would be fabulous, but he says it wold take a lot of work and doesnt know if he has the time to get around to it.

we need a greater good :D

As Inve said, would love a choice for Creation + Keeper of the Peace Adept+Master

hey there dev, can we get "creation" and "keeper of peace" adept + master? :D

Any update on Alignment + Aligment Elements? Would love to have it in my PBEM games.