Should be stronger than the Spartans by at least a good margin. Even during the Macedonian wars these hoplites performed well against Sarissa pikes

PLEASE- PLEASE UPDATE...

Dear Red Warlord. Could you please Update your fantastiv Moce to Update 2.4? That would be Great.

So Sparta got rekt by a bunch of Fa-- gay guys... that sucks

Pls update pls

Hilarious that people tried to revise history over these guys being gay. Homosexuality for greeks was also philosophical, they believe dominating a woman was for lesser men, less masculine. Dominating another man took real masculinity.

Also Solon has nothing to do with this. Plutarch says that Goridas picked 150 MALE COUPLES regardless of their class based solely on their ability. He uses the word erastês meaning "lovers", Athenaeus also uses that word, not friends. lol

Polyaenus said men devoted to each other through love.

There's no wiggle room here, they were hella gay.

put 300 into each unit pls

its true they were homosexuals and defeated the Spartans and slew the Spartan king

Please update

Could you update this great mod for the great campaign please?

Update please :'(

Hey! This is an awesome addition.
I was hoping we might get an updated version so that it works with recent patches!! =)
Thanks!

@Helicopter "It may be hard to understand from a modern perspective"...so very true...in fact it's the hardest thing nowdays...people try to interpretate the past with modern standards...the conclusion is more ignorance, historical alternation/inaccuracies and stereotypes..."Gay relationships were a very common thing in Ancient Greece" to this one even though I agree I would recommend to provide sources because the other side of the coin tells us a different story. Check out Solon's laws for homosexuality...if we want to approach this matter we 'd better study Aristotle's view of friendship and above all the status of women in ancient Greece. Homosexuality was present in Persia as well. The Greeks however found a way to make homosexuals one of the best fighting machines ever...nowdays most of homosexuals are slaves to their pleasures and lavish tastes

The ancient Greek elite were famously fond of same sex relationships between men, especially among soldiers. The Spartans integrated this concept into their training program, where young recruits would be taken as lovers (or probably raped in some cases) by their trainers. Many Greeks attributed greater cohesion between hoplites that were lovers, which is probably where the idea for the Sacred Band came from.

I did but they don't agree with you at least the most of them.

It's not a matter of opinion. Facts are facts, go and research them for yourself.

Sorry for the mad but It is so strange. Ok, keep your opinion but the most people disagree with you.

I am not mad - these are the facts, your disagreement doesn't change that. Facts don't care about your feelings. Gay relationships were a very common thing in Ancient Greece, especially amongst soldiers. It may be hard to understand from a modern perspective, but remember that this is a very different culture from the modern day.

I like your unit but I disagree with your description

So, You tell me some of the best warriors of Greece were gay? You are mad but it is just a mod after all. At least, remove their beards so seem more gay xd.

Thanks!

sure, you can use it.

Fixed it by adding them to Athens myself XD Still an awesome mod!!! With your permission I would like to use it in my "Athens unit bundle mod". Is that okay?

Great mod, The Sacred Band of Thebes were awesome! Sadly I cannot find them in custom battle at all. Any idea why? Thanks

They only defeated the spartans right flank because the spartans were 12 men deep and the thebans were 50 men deep. but the decisive factor was that the thebas flank the spartiates with thier cavalry. ..

instead of using the traditional greek formation thebans used a diagonal (stairs) formation. the focus all of their troops to deal with the spartiates thus the won a decisive victory. :)

So my point is these unit is OP haha. :)

Damm, they weren't couples LOL!!!

If you want to make them bodyguards, it's easy to edit it yourself, just add them to commander units category using Pack File Manager. I've decided to be historically accurate and not make them a bodyguard.

They are not a bodyguard or command unit, they are an elite combat unit. I'm not doing that.

Make them bodyguard for generals so we can have them earlier please

ah ok, thanks

that's Macedon colours

Wow this mod is * puts om sunglasses* Pretty gay. YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

well your pics of units are in a different colour to my units?

what are you talking about?

I like the colours you have used for the units, are you going to include the faction colours change?

sure, that's fine.

Themrcommunist - may I request permission to add this mod into May all in one mod please? Full credit will be given, many thanks

Very nice work but this not a general unit

They are so gay. Good mod, thank you.

Picked Hoplites would generally be richest and best armed, they fill that spot already.

perhaps Elis could have XP bonus upon recruitment?

In regards to the aditional units: some elite Cavelry for Thessaly, and for Thebes, both have many mentions in Thucydides. More mercanaries, possibly hoplites, specifically from Syracuse and Italy cos they playes a massive role and i was upset they were not part of the map at all, and some from the other major greek ploies (Messalia, the Bosporous, Cyprus, Cyrene) and other major players, Egypt and Carthage mainly, just to represent their involvement. Perhaps a larger roster for the Athenian navy, so they really can be dominant at sea, and the same for Korinth and Korkyra as they were the major navel powers. Perhaps a unit for all the greeks of noble hoplites, (or the higher social classes) because it was considered more honourable to be a hoplite than in the cavelry.

Perhaps Elian Hoplites and Elian Hippeis for Elis???Elis was one very rich and powerfull city because of the Olympic Games...they had good cavalry[most of the Greeks except Thessalians and Macedon later didnt use to much cavalry...]and very good tradition to Hoplites....

people can suggest a historical unit which they would like to see in WoS, I agree that the roster is too small, especially mercenaries.

very good work!!!Hope to add more units and for other factions of WOS cause its a problem that all they have small rosters...i would like to see 1-2 special units for every faction of WOS....

That does make sence, and from the description never expected it to be recruitable fist turn. It would be possible for it to have happened at late in the war, i.e. the ionian war or Siccilian expedition

it's only a late game unit

sure, it was formed in 378 BCE, but I made it only recruitable in level 4, it takes some time and research to get them.

Whilst i love the addition and will use cos is awsome. But historically the Sacred Band came about when poleis (city states) began to have profeshional armies, after the Pellopanesian War to rival the amount of Greek Hoplite mecenaries which increased after several generations had grown up all over the greek world only knowing war. Not that it matters as i will still use, could you do the same for other factions? :)

It did not have it's current connotation back then, it was seen as entirely normal, even expected.