Doesn't seem to be fully compatible with obscuritas

I have a suggestion to improve compatibility. I maintain a character window mod as well and I noticed that the conflict is in hbox_character_relation_and_ai. If this mod had a on_game_start global variable set, like many other mods do, other mod authors could check if "MFR_is_loaded" or whatever, and load your new extra_relation_tooltip, or fallback to the EXTENDED_RELATIONS_TOOLTIP from vanilla if that variable is false. I already do this in my mod with SNAT.

Has anyone made this fully compatible with Extended Outliner? That mod does not render the new relations, saying instead "has no relations" even for siblings.

i love this mod

@rikard-andersson a first cousin once removed is the son or daughter of your first cousin, whereas a nephew/niece is the son/daughter of your sibling

I think I have a bug / issue (which I assume is from this mod). I have a screenshot but basically it comes up from the Weight of Influence event popup: "While I enjoy how willingly X does my bidding you Y, remains out of my reach" ... there's the weird "you" in that sentence. I assume it's meant to be "his liege" or something like that

Hi, thanks for the mod!
Some small typos I found:
- Great-great-grandnaughter -> Great-great-granddaughter
- Geat-granddaughter-in-law -> Great-granddaughter-in-law

What is your first cousin once removed. Isn't that nephew?

@Gilgamesh As far as I know, the basic relations are hard-coded into the game and you can't really change them. That's why this mod adds a custom line for the GUI files for the extra relations and adds them manually this way. I guess you could just change the localization file and there change the "Sister-wife" into "Sister, Wife", which would fake the separation, but it's not a perfect solution. Whatever the case, this mod doesn't change anything for sister-wives, so you would have to make your own mod.

If the dev reads this, I'm looking to try and change the relation sister-wife into Sister, Wife, etc. I just can't seem to find where the game stores when the relationship changes from sister to sister-wife. (I just hate the hyphen for some reason.)

Yes it works with AGOT

Does this work with the AGOT converstion mod?

@darthxade We shouldn't be online at all then

@Nalethyst how is it unethical to make a translation for the initial release of a small mod made by one person for a niche game? This is a rhetorical question because there is no way to argue this point without sounding like an idiot. Especially when someone actually makes a translation, the author links their translation and would likely integrate the translation into the mod if asked. There is no argument to be had and you're just triggered about AI existing. It's 2025, get over it. Clearly the author just wanted people who speak other languages to enjoy the mod without delay. If there's a problem with the translation, just say that. But you need to be weird and moralize the issue.

@DarthXade don't be dissing on chatgpt, it's helped me more then most ppl I have ever met managed to in the entire time I have been alive.

@DarthXade That can be said about almost anything today and is a reall bad argument, tbhaf.

@Mycelia ChatGPT is unfortunately not always accurate, but, even worse, requires obscene amounts of water and energy for each individual prompt. By using it to translate this, you’ve essentially reversed several thousands of dollars worth of trying to save the environment just like that. And it’s just getting worse.

@Nalethyst, what is unethical about ChatGPT, or rather the use of it like here? Also it's just a translation, not even AI created content technically, just converted text. It's better than having no options for other languages, because I don't think the author used ChatGPT in place of asking or hiring actual people, more than likely they would've if the could've.

Is RUI:Character Unnoficial compatible with this mod?

Man ChatGPT.. really? I really like your idea but please please get yourself someone who wants to translate it or use other translators who don't use AI. We all know ChatGPT is unethical at this point :/ I'd translate german for free just don't do that :(

I WAS LOOKING FOR A MOD LIKE THIS, BIG W!!

I fiddled around with a making a mod that does this, but yours implements it much better, so thank you! Some suggestions:

Eldest/youngest child
Stepchildren/parents/siblings/cousins/etc.
Maternal and paternal grandparents
Game-concept tooltips to explain the relations if you hover over them (e.g. "Your First Cousin Twice Removed is either the First Cousin of your grandparent, or the grandchild of your First Cousin", "Your Second Cousin is the grandchild of your great aunt or great uncle. Their parent is the first cousin of your parent.")
A game rule to replace the Removed terminology with stuff like Second Aunt/Uncle/Niece/Nephew [en.wiktionary.org] etc. This terminology isn't necessarily used as often but may add clarity for some people.

@carlos_moka I hadn't read it before, it's great someone has also noticed it! I neither have modding skills so I'll have to wait for the release. In the meantime as I've altered the files I'll be able to play it with the names shown properly.

it says great great grandnaughter

this mod make agot dragon in the troops tooltip gone

you sir are a god send, ive gotten so used to the micromanaging

Is this compatible with RUI? I suggest making a compatch module for RUI since RUI itself already has many compatches for many GUI mods

is it possible to label anyone beyond great great grandparent, as simply 'your ancestor' ? just for tooltip and clarity purposes

uh i have a "cousin once removed" bug to report

here before paradox steals it and puts it in base game

Incredibly nice mod, thank you for this, it really makes the game alot more insightful.

@amsalejandro27 I noticed this too and already sent him the fixes (you can check it out in the comments below) he said he'll add them when he has time, so let's be patient, i (or you could) might release a different mod with the fixes (like he did with the Chinese localization) but I'm not feeling very confident in my modding skills.

Your uncle's adoptive father's nephew's mother's sister's boyfriend's gay lover's roommate

oh lol since this is CK3 and reality combined. you should add attraction +5 modifier on third cousin

Good mod, but it spams the log files over and over

Great mod! But the German loc is bugged, i´ve sent you the fix via Discord DM :)

Hi, I'm a Spanish player and a considerable part of the translation to my language is completely wrong (we don't used x times removed for consanguinity). I've edited the archives for a better translation (however, in English you use the same name for the children of your first cousins and the children of your great uncles, whereas in Spanish we've got different names for them). Nevertheless, I've translated so far what I've been able to.

How can I share it?

Yes, it works with existing saved games.

hi is this able to be added late game

@Rahko I ask you to correct the Russian translation, because it does not reflect how we actually call our relatives. If you want, I can send you a model of the text in Russian, so that you can then correct everything yourself.

改变了ui

@Gongall Thanks for letting me know, I'll look into it, if there's way to bypass the conflict.

@宣歙池都团练观察使 Great! Thanks, I added the link in the description.

Due to the difference of Chinese kinship terminology, the current Simplified Chinese translations by ChatGPT are largely incomprehensible. I have revised the mod translation based on my understanding here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3477078562 . Although still different from the way Chinese are commonly addressed, this version should be understandable.

This mod conflicts minorly with POD, it removes the blood resonance icon on character sheets (but not anywhere else that I can see).

@AbbyTheFoxx Okay, I'll look into it, when I have the time.

@EviLive The general rule I've found is to put the smaller mod after a larger mod. I guess it can work either way but I tested it putting this after Character UI Overhaul.

should it still be placed after ui overhaul or does that matter now?

Love the mod! I'm wondering, are you able to patch it to work with Elder Kings 2? It seems like the culture descriptions don't show in the tooltips with this mod installed.

@Rakho I sent you a request, send me a message when you can so I can send you the suggestions, good day :)

@Rahko What a brilliant mod tysm

@Everyone: I just tested it and that my last edit in which I lightened the mod significantly actually worked, and it now works even with AGOT. So, yay! No need for a compatch. (Though, I did just quickly test if the dragon screen was messed up like before, but since that works, there shouldn't be anything else. But, if you do encounter anything, be sure to let me know!)

@carlos_moka Great! That would be awesome.