i find that DI down works better

i learnt that you can avoid his not gonna sugarcoat it combos (uppercut x5000 and throw + dash + dash + throw xINF) by just putting your DI up :/

throw is now a super power 💔

You need to add *throws you constantly* to the thumbnail of this mod

finalu

ok so, i was fighting the AI with disgraced chef and when i tried to save the replay and watch it, the game simply crashes outta nowhere. I don't know if this is something related to this mod, or my game is just bugged, can you answer it for me?

how about u make it so IT DOESN'T CONSTANTLY THROW.

ive fought this as of today and it certainly doesnt just throw. what it will do is stunlock you though because each hit only slightly bounces you up

this bot fucking sucks all it does is throw

This bot has taught me one thing.

THROW!! 🔥🔥🔥❗❗🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥

WE GETTIN THROWN WITH THIS ONE🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

this guy smuggles freshly harvested adrenochrome to juicers

Crazy_Buckets443: You need to have the Mod Options mod installed. From there, a button called "Mod Options" appears at the bottom of the title screen. Click that, and you should see "Goon Options" in the menu that appears. Click that, click the dropdown menu from there, then pick your difficulty from there.

i get the same issue as @zyler319, but only when i have style editor+ installed, which kinda sucks. the game just ctd's a second after i lock in the turn for some reason? the character i choose never matters, only style editor+ being active in the modlist. is this just a weird issue on my machine, or can anyone repro?

How do I turn on hard mode?

Any ETA on the universal AI?

zyler319: That is odd - I don't get a crash when playing against Machine. That said, I have noticed that the decision time against Machine is much greater than any other character, probably due to its complexity.

If the game claims it isn't responding, wait the freeze out without touching anything and it should be fine, but a crash suggests another issue.
Is the problem only against Machine? If so, it might be a memory problem I'll have to take a look into for the General AI. Otherwise, check if you have the "Sticky DI Fixer" mod installed; it's incompatible with this one.

so, my game keeps crashing, and im not sure if its goon mod or the machine mod, but everytime i play with goon and machine, i pick a move, and then click space to lock in the moves, and the game freezes, then crashes. Again, idk what causes it, but i feel this mod is more experemental than the other one, so i came here first. the other mod is this https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3019776735

There are plenty of comments in this section from new players who haven't figured out some of the core mechanics of the game yet. I try to keep my customer support answers to bug fixing and technical details, though - the only remedy would be to include a tutorial on how to play the game in the FAQ, which is off-topic and often unread anyway. That said, I'd recommend some videos from the "YOMI Learn" YouTube channel - it has a mix of specific game mechanics and core gameplay tutorials.

Grey's, you are suffering from a skill issue. If you get back to me I can help you overcome it if you want.

Y'all have issues with this guy?

He just spams the chop, the dodge, and the perfect parry. The only option I found is to keep it at a distance and spam projectiles while running for your life

just exit the stunlock man it's not that hard

Easy!?! he just stun locks me as soon as he hits me, he took me from full health to 0 in one massive stun chain. please tell me your working on this

you disgust me

Goon aint gooning for me. What gives?

Input reading piece of shit jumps over my grab perfectly literally every time .

Oh hell yeah. Can't wait for it to be done. Wish you luck :)

i sure do love gooning

Schmaltz - I'm currently developing a general AI that can play any character in the game. This mod is a "pilot" of sorts to test out the technology on the simplest moveset possible.

Yeah the throw grab is a real bother but he doesn't do it til i die so that's a +.

Anyways is the mod being updated? Maybe a different moveset in the works? Would be interesting to play a ranged goon. Change things a bit.

Could you nerf this guy a bit? It's practically impossible to fight this guy because of how fast it recovers from attacking and how short it's attacks are.

dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw dash dash throw

ah yes "easy mode is fr "easy" when im stuck in a loop of being thrown and uppercut

dash into throw into dash into throw into dash into throw into dash into throw into dash

I find it funny how you can immediately tell who in this comment section don't know about using DI to escape combos

To counter him, also use throw when he's close

ALL HE DOES IS THROW I WANT TO BEAT HIS LITTLE GOON BRAIN IN

im sorry but if you think "easy" is being constantly thrown and pinned against the wall then thats not easy at all bc thats all that happens

Note on Sticky DI Fixer:
Currently, using Goon with Sticky DI Fixer installed crashes the game. When I get the time to work on the General AI again, I'll look into it. As for now, they are simply incompatible.

@soppyamoeba8402 thanks friend

@Akira go options, then click clear character cache

When I select the goon it appears as "null" and when I start the game it stays in eternal loading

Eternal looping loading scream

Why wont you let me make them fight eachother?

was good until it stopped working

OK, so I've been experimenting and I cannot get goon to make any decisions at all. Every difficulty, any opponent, nothing is working. Also, "instant" CTD is a hyperbole. It thinks for almost exactly one second, then crashes. One more thing: I have no idea how to DM someone who isn't on my friends list, so I sent you a friend request.

Midnight: You mean it instantly crashes when you lock in, not even a freeze? If so, that's new to me. If you send me your crash report, I'll take a look into it.

I didn't try any other permutations, but using (Hard) Goon offline does not work. Instant ctd on first lock in. I did try clearing character cache and using a simpler character, but nope.

King: I have considered it before, but because it's an issue that new players have to deal with rather than with the mod, I decided against it. I'll probably do it, though, because it will help them. Not that everyone reads the FAQ even then, though.

lucasstengel223: With a greater variety of choices that can be made, I hope that the General AI will be what you're looking for when it comes out, and then the potential boss AIs after that. The "bug" you describe is actually intended - when two or more options are evaluated with a similar "score" (as in, the AI thinks they're similarly good moves), one of them is picked at random. The way I see it, undoing a move is akin to save-scumming in single player games - I don't mind if anyone does it, it's up to each player to decide if it counts as cheating to them or not.