Crusader Kings III

Crusader Kings III

Realistic Marraige Opinon (needs update)
43 Comments
Jet Jul 4 @ 1:17pm 
does the ai make cross marriages
@HaziTru we are waiting for an update like Hachiko)
Innead Jun 30 @ 1:22pm 
Update soon?
HaziTru  [author] May 19 @ 12:51pm 
Yes I'll be updating soon I'm busy with work and school at the moment
DeadLy38 May 19 @ 9:21am 
Like the mod. Can it be fixed?
HaziTru  [author] May 15 @ 7:10pm 
This mod recently broke all marriages after the most recent update last week.. it worked fine before.
kudashkins May 15 @ 11:39am 
of course this mod breaks all marriages, a smart person could not make such a mod, bringing closer non-historical outcomes and crazy marriages, which are often found in the late game
HaziTru  [author] May 13 @ 2:04pm 
@Chicken_smuggler all marriages? Yes the new patch really screwed it up I thought it was just for nomads. Okay I'll fix it as soon as I can.
HaziTru  [author] May 13 @ 2:02pm 
There's traditions, lifestyle perks and possibly other things you can do like befriending the person, giving them a artifacts, learning their language, gifting money and I believe having high Diplomacy makes the person like you more as well.

It can still be very difficult to interfaith marry with this mod which is what I wanted, but from testing it is possible in most situations. If your a count and try to marry a emperors daughter or some who hates you that's obviously not going to work no matter what it's going to be too many negative modifiers. I wanted it to be realistic.
Jet May 13 @ 10:46am 
"After testing i found that -125 is still restrictive but if you invest into culture or religious acceptance and other traits,:

wdym by investing into cultural or religious acceptance? i know theres one trad that gives +10 acceptance but is there more outside of legacies?
Chicken_Smuggler May 12 @ 2:00am 
Yup this mod currently breaks all marriages
HaziTru  [author] May 7 @ 10:32am 
It was fine, a update just came out today and must've broke it. I'll have to look at the code and try to fix it.
nizon May 7 @ 10:28am 
I'll add that you can't marry as a nomad, I haven't checked other governments
HaziTru  [author] May 7 @ 10:27am 
Okay I'll check out the code thanks
nizon May 7 @ 1:04am 
Hey, after the update it seems that it's not possible to marry anyone anymore, might be me issue or some mod incompatibility but everything worked fine before.
HaziTru  [author] May 5 @ 3:29pm 
Updated to version 1.16

- cleaned up some code so the mod is more compatible
TheMuyu Dec 15, 2024 @ 8:59am 
Is this working with latest updates?
Scribe of Nekoti Oct 27, 2024 @ 1:39pm 
Does anyone know if this causes issues or does it still work okay?
bandito Oct 6, 2024 @ 4:09pm 
Thank you for this mod, reading the comments is funny like no one ever did this one thing because our book says it! Like that has ever stopped some "bad" Muslims from having a drink or Christians from saying the lords name in vein. I'm sure interfaith was def frowned on, but to say it never happened is insane lmao
BonumMonstrum Sep 11, 2024 @ 6:12am 
After some of the last updates some lines were added to the file "00_marriage_scripted_modifiers.txt". So please add the missing ones to your file (lines 2-7 and 1963 - 2016 :steamthumbsup::D:
Riaman Aug 22, 2024 @ 11:04am 
@Angel that is BS, in India Mughals married hindu princesses, and had their female relatives marry Hindu rulers.
HaziTru  [author] May 9, 2024 @ 11:38pm 
@Jet yes this affects the AI as well.
Jet May 9, 2024 @ 7:52pm 
will this also affect the ai?
HaziTru  [author] Apr 27, 2024 @ 4:51am 
Updated to 1.12 guys let me know how everything's working
alegdansk Apr 27, 2024 @ 3:17am 
Please 🙏 can you create a mod to allow our daughters to marry mercenary commanders?
Thank you 🤗
Timou Mar 7, 2024 @ 9:48am 
Update Please 1.12
Angel Feb 18, 2024 @ 5:00am 
Historically, when a non Muslim man wanted to marry a Muslim woman, they would convert to Islam, not just get married, otherwise it would be considered illegitimate and can get into legal trouble and potential execution. If you want historicity, that's closer to reality.
On the other hand, the 4 wives was a more broken rule, since men can get unlimited slave partners, rulers often had much more than 4 partners, and hundreds of children. I feel that should be allowed in the game rather that strict 4.
HaziTru  [author] Jan 22, 2024 @ 10:40am 
@AyJayAye Muslims and Christians aren't supposed to marry outside of their faiths but still did it at a decent rate back then. You can google it. That's why i created this mod. I totally get it if you don't agree, thats fine you don't have to use it but I'm sure many other people will find it useful.
AyJayAye Jan 22, 2024 @ 7:34am 
1) Islam does not permit any Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man.
2) Muslim men can only marry a Christian or Jewish woman IF she is believing and practicing, but there are times where it is not advised. The ideal marriage is between a Muslim man and a Muslim woman.
3) I don't where where the other faiths sit on this matter, so I only offer only the Islamic perspective. This sort of a mod and the claims you make regarding why you found the need to make it from our perspective is damaging and completely disregards the theological issues,
ttghost Dec 16, 2023 @ 9:30pm 
Thanks for creating this mod! I suggest to add modifier with Zealous and Cynical trait.
Gliese581 Dec 16, 2023 @ 12:30am 
@Avik_Ray Pretty sure that worked that way for any religion. Can't really see christians agreeing to a christian noblewoman randomly marrying a muslim, if the woman hold power in christian lands that is. To send someone away sure that's possible. Men holding the power and power passing through a patriarchal line means it's less of a problem if the bride adheres to a different faith.
Avik_Ray Dec 15, 2023 @ 9:47pm 
The missed idea is that Islam permits marrying women from the other Abrahamic faiths whereas it absolutely all the time restricted believing women to marry any heathen. Moreover, when Islam reached pagan lands the Quranic permission to take Jewish and Christian wives were broadened to accomodate pagan wives as well. The heathens naturally did not understand this parasitic system of taking women from other peoples to turn them into Muslims eventually and agreed to give out their women thinking it will build social ties. This is the reason you will almost never find Muslim princesses to marry Christian lords and kings.
HaziTru  [author] Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:38pm 
@Barry Fasif Great I'm glad it works. Thank you for reporting that.
Wise Chinese Uncle Dec 15, 2023 @ 2:17pm 
@HaziTru works flawlessly now. thank you!
HaziTru  [author] Dec 15, 2023 @ 5:00am 
@Bassy Fasif I just made a update so its not easily overwritten, check to see if it works now.
Wise Chinese Uncle Dec 14, 2023 @ 2:01pm 
It's almost certainly just because I have like 60 mods, but even when I load this last in the order, it has no effect.

Looks like a fantastic mod though
HaziTru  [author] Dec 12, 2023 @ 7:01pm 
Im glad to help and make the game feel more realistic. Your exactly right, as i said before many Middle eastern Muslims were marrying Christian Nubians, Ethiopias and other Africans.

Also the Persian Muslims were marrying many Indian women and using them as concubines or second wifes. There was many Arab/Indian mixed people in that area because of this for example Afghanistan was filled with Arab/Indian mixed people.

For the most part Christians definitely married who they wanted with out judgment. They probably hung who ever had issues with who the High King marries. Christians definitely interfaith married pagans in Europe and in Africa alot more then the muslims did.

The -1000 modifier seems to be there just to increase difficulty rather then actual Medieval Realism.
VampXGamer Dec 12, 2023 @ 3:09pm 
Thanks for this! I also found it ridiculously restrictive. This game holds to a myth, but the reality is these kings did what they could get away with, including interfaith marriages. Scandal sure, but no one stopped it.
HaziTru  [author] Dec 12, 2023 @ 9:37am 
Update : Changed the Evil Opinion Modifier from -150 to -125 so its a little easier to marry someone if you invest into the relationship with said ruler, after testing i found that - 150 was still a bit too hard .
HaziTru  [author] Dec 12, 2023 @ 9:16am 
@zachary.deca.stl Yes this mod does work with existing saves.
zachary.deca.stl Dec 11, 2023 @ 10:03pm 
is this something that could be added to an existing save game?
HaziTru  [author] Dec 11, 2023 @ 11:02am 
Exactly, -150 opinion modifier to me is the sweet spot where its still very hard to marry but not impossible if you invest into diplomacy, legacies etc.

-1000 breaks realism for me because interfaith marriages weren't obsolete in the Middle Ages as the game makes it seem. It did happen every once in a while. Many kings found pretty women who they fell in love with who were a different religion.
mademan2 Dec 11, 2023 @ 9:40am 
Very nice, I always found it a bit riddiculus that its just plain impossible, thanks.