Hey! I just learned today that if you turn on sv_cheats 1 and tf_bot_offense_must_push_time 0 you can actually play this map with bots, and they actually do go for the objectives! I've generated and fixed up a nav mesh for the map if you're at all interested.

half of your maps textures break when using mat_phong 0

the absolute PEAK smissmas map

Even when not performing the chaotic activities, this map is absolutely great for winter shopping rp! You can take a casual stroll around the shops and see all sorts of hidden details. Not to mention the huge Christmas decor, it really takes me back to when my local mall used to put up amazing Christmas displays.

Bravo!

i <3 galleria

Love this one, super cozy looking. can't wait to play it again this year

Absolutely gorgeous and perfectly designed map. Contextually evident that the creators did their research, and this map manifests itself as a celebration of all Team Fortress has accomplished over the years, justly set in a 'galleria' of memorabilia. 15/5 stars, excellent work.

Is there an uncompiled version of this map available?

Йоу, не знал что ты скрафтил эту мапу, клева емае

this whole time i never noticed it was nucleus

Do you have vscript settings configured?

can anyone help me
when i tried to host the release version it just crashes srcds, but when i host this workshop _b8 version it runs without problem

@Spleep Those messages that I sent you weren't from me. My account was hacked and I got it back. Please accept my friend request.

<3

i just love this map

You can play it on community servers all year round at least! This map is both a reskin and very explicitly smissmas-themed, so it wouldn't really make sense for it to be in the normal rotation ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I want this map to be added in non-smissmas rotation :(

This is one of the best maps I've played in forever. PLEASE make a version without the swissmas decorations I wanna be playing this map year-round!

If one exists it was not made by us

I heard something about a trade version of this map on a silly server is that true? I would love to see the map opened up more for something like that it would amazing!

@ MCL15 I lived through the jeans fad, until it was the norm. I can't remember what sort of pants we wore before. My sister had bell bottoms. Us boys always had the work-a-day straight legs. some girls converted straight legs to bell bottoms by sewing in cloth wedges. My favorite was girls converting jeans to halter tops. IMO, I think the reference to the fad should be mentioned.

@Zeus 2 : I want to say that your works are your "realization of Crummys Burgers", but I may well go with your nicely succinct statements below. I am trying to work the elements of this whole thread into the wiki's Galleria page, but it must go at the pace I have, following the procedures. Again, I have a personal connection to much of the work your team has done, (Orange Julius was one of my favorite shops are our new 68-71 Galleria), so at the very least I want to communicate that appreciation to you. Just please forgive the pace I must keep.

@Zeus, yes, I have been discussing those with another staffer. One of the challenges is that any original content in the Community Maps is not as Canon as that in Valve maps. I would like to comment that the businesses in Galleria are the Galleria developer's representations of Valve's background and tribute companies. But, at this time, from information we now have, we have to stop short of saying that, for example, that the Crummys Burgers in Galleria IS a one of Valve's Crummys Burgers location.

If its not also obvious the restaurants in the food court all reference existing things from the game:

Conquistador refers to the company of the bucket of chicken scout has on Expiration Date.
Crummys Brugers is a common sign used in a lot of maps.
Rocket Noodle is a sign on koth_king
Red Bread referring to some of the signs Red uses and has on the side of their van in Expiration Date.

However I created all the new logos / branding for them as they appear in Galleria.

We had other ideas for food related shops like some kind of Cinnabon or an Orange Julius, but we scrapped those ideas due to time.

Thank you, Professor Peppermint! MCL15 When I get back home I can clip all of this and archive it, If you don't mind.

There is an edited version of the blue team pinup calendar overlay in BLU spawn which gives the girl overalls. The mannequins are based on the Spy's model.

"FGD Automobiles" refers to FGD5, who created various assets for the map including the cars and ice resurfacer.

The logo on the side of the ice resurfacer (we opted not to use "Zamboni" as this is trademarked), "Conagher Ice Scraping Co.", is a parody of the logo I designed for the engineer "Lawnmaker" hat ("Conagher Landscaping Co").


That's about everything I can think of at the moment.
Hope this helps!

"Gossamer Baby 100% Pure Asbestos" is a joke about the widespread use of Asbestos in consumer products and architecture before the health risks were widely known.

The drink choices in the soda fountains/vending machines are named after various concepts in nuclear physics/nuclear energy.

The "Big Bob's Ballbearings Bananas Roller Skates & Floor Wax, Inc" door is a reference to a particular instance of The Far Side by Gary Larson depicting the interior of said company's office in turmoil due to the slippery nature of all the products. The floor tiles near this door are also shinier than the others because of the floor wax.

There is a door in BLU spawn with "Eric Smith" written on it, one of the TF2 developers.

Next to the phlogistinator in the display case, there is a little "Australium reactor" which is based on the unfinished core model from rd_asteroid.

"Redd's Pawn & Jewelry" is a pun based on the phrase "RED Spawn". The "We Buy Australium" sign references the tendency for pawn shops and payday loan places to buy gold jewelry for cash.

The "Dapper Cadaver" references the name of a magazine that the spy is seen reading in Expiration Date.

One of the mannequins in the Mann Co Store is wearing an unobtainable cosmetic item which was added in the Jungle Inferno update but never used.

The "Borox" sign is a reference to the YouTube channel Internet Comment Etiquette and the "Todd Clorox" character.

The "Proot Vineyards" sign is a reference to Spleep's map "Proot" ("Soot pro").

"Charleston's Wild West Rattlesnake Extract" is literally snake oil.

Just to make it explicitly clear, the movies referenced on the posters are:

Dr. No, Major League, Planes Trains and Automobiles, Weekend at Bernie's, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Jaws, Mad Max, Evil Dead 2, and Ghostbusters. I think the Ol' Nick poster was mostly original, though it also references Dr. Seuss' "How the Grinch Stole Christmas".

The Saxton Hale cutout has several reviews listed on it. One of them is me and another ("Jeremy E.") refers to Jeremy Elbertson AKA "Jerma985".

The main voice inspirations for the announcer were Dr. Girlfriend from The Venture Bros and Raz (the slug lady) from Monsters, Inc.

The "Latte" picture in RED spawn is a paintover of Bonk Nickeltoon's pet cat of the same name.

There is a piece of original TF2 concept art used in RED spawn and on the wall on BLU side just outside the control room. There is also a sign for one of the front companies from koth_rotunda in RED spawn.

Yes, we meant the jeans store to be a nod to the fashion trends at the time (notice there are several mannequins wearing bellbottom jeans, which are rare nowadays, but which were popular at the time).



Here are some other bits of trivia:

The screens on the launch control panel contain a number of jokes and references, including:

- Spaceballs (Bleeps, Sweeps, Creeps)

- Santa Claus (Naughty/Nice indicator)

- According to the mission plan, the rocket is a nuclear missile intended to make a seemingly pointless circumlunar maneuver only to return to Earth and impact the North Pole as its intended target

- A source engine shading equation (listed on the Engineer's page as his favorite equation)

- Myself (MCL-15, my surname split into several parts [M-4], [C-K], [3-N], and my parents' birthdays hidden in some of the numbers)

@Fasterman5

The Galleria Trivia is still blank because increases in Trivia quality policies do delay posting of valid Trivia. To post any Trivia on the TFWiki, I now must contact a developer for confirmation, and then archive the confirmation. And the developers are preoccupied at the moment. The movie posters are great! I have seen every movie that is referenced, except I can't figure out the IRL origin of the Ol' Nick poster art .

In 1968, the surging fad of BLU jeans, and their practicality, mean that at every new school year, we went to town to buy new BLU jeans at the new Galleria, but I need developer confirmation that they are referencing that period's clothing fad.

When I was in grade school, my rural Badlands home town built the region's first Galleria and double Cinema, 1968-1972. The showtimes marquee is >perfect<!!!!! You did well, lads! The candy prices are correct for the time, too. Going to town for Christmas shopping at the Galleria in the FGD5 1971 station wagon! aahhhhhh. .... Thanks again for the nostalgia triggers!

Hey again! Just from my experience alone, I that is exactly what the community is thinking. I've seen multiple people mention that in the chat. Here's hoping it becomes a reality!

Thank you for your feedback! I'll forward it to the others. I can't promise we'll fix all of these, especially regarding the ability to enter more stores. We limited it to two for balance purposes, although there have been talks of possibly making a trade server version that is more "opened up" eventually. If there is a public interest, I'd definitely support it. Cheers!

Thanks so much! Oh, and while I have your attention, there are just a couple things I've noticed while playing:

There is a rolling pin in either Red Bread or Crummy's that has handles that aren't connected to the pin itself (you can see directly inside the empty space within the model).

There is some collision problems when trying to enter the counter in Crummy's via the small pathway (the space between the booths and the counter is too small, which makes the path unusable).

These next two are just aesthetic/trade server observations, feel free to ignore these:

I and many others would definitely appreciate the ability to enter more of the stores that have visible interiors, or at least get behind the counters of the restaurants/caterers that don't have any visible force in the way besides on invisible way (Rocket Noodle, Cinema Lobby, Conquistador's).

Oh, and Crummy's seems to be missing a menu!

That's all! Enjoy your evening!

@Fasterman5:
Yes, all hail the creator of BSP
I don't think so, but it's possible as the model was made prior to the map
Yes, all hail the master of vehicle models and quick emergency asset creation, FGD5
Yes, as one of many, many inspirations both inside and outside of TF2

Hey again, since the "Trivia" Section for this map on the Official Wiki is completely non-existent, I'd like to ask some questions about the secrets found within the map.

Firstly, I assume "Carmack Computers" is a reference to Doom co-creator John Carmack?

Secondly, and this may be a stretch, but is the blue sedan on the left of the automotive dealership's interior meant to represent Doc Hudson from the Pixar film "Cars"?

Thirdly, I am to understand that "FDG Automotive" (hope I'm spelling this right, I can't exactly check with all those bots running around!) is a reference to map co-creator FDG5?

Lastly, and this is more of a lore/design question, did the team decide to use the mall in the "Australian Christmas" comic as inspiration and/or a direct connection to the Teufort Galleria?

Thanks in advance! I'm no Wiki writer, but I'm certain they'd appreciate the help!

Perfect. Thank you so much for the help.

Ah sure, "ent_fire func_capturezone disable" should disable both cap zone triggers. it'll make it so no one can score points

@Zeus You can't even disable the cap zone like you could with a control point?

See! This map is nice! This is why Prophunt will always be rejected and is not fitting for TF2 And it should be abandoned!

@Old St. Dingus no thats not possible. The best you can do is "ent_fire pd_logic EnableMaxScoreUpdating" but that only allows the max number to change based on player count.

I help run a server and would like to run this map, but without a cap limit. Is there a command that I can run to either turn off the cap limit or to add to the amount of points that needs to be capped before a round ends?

My top 3 doors on the map: Tombo Y. Abs, U. R. Azucker, and Y. R. Ugay

The announcer is called Sheila

@Dom I was joking.

@HEAVEN AND HELLO No, that's the name of the voice actor. I want to know the name of the character. For lore and because it would be fun to update the TF2 wiki with an actual name.

I really love the assets used in this map! Just wondering, are they available to download on tf2map.net , I can understand if not but if there is, love to have a link to it.

Anyway, congrats for getting this map officially added for Smissmas 2023. I hope you all who have worked on this to have a merry Christmas, and a happy new year. :)

For some reason, my hud has missing textures, and I can't tell if this is an issue with the map or not: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3113388706

@Dom His name is OctoBlitz