Would be great if someone could update this. It really made mid and late game so much more manageable

Current version bugs out the shipyard, can't be used anymore with the mod activated

(forgive my english) Just a suggestion, if possible, you could also try to reduce numbers on repetable research for command / capacity limit

@Henry L Castle That's what i figured, i've seen that attempted but never knew why it failed. The only suggestion i would have is to look at the Heavies civic in "Fun traits and civics". The values it gives are decent, it is difficult for an empire regardless of ai or player to field a large doomstack fleet if the ships are expensive (cost and upkeep are higher) and take a long time to make. I am considering looking into to modding to see if i can find a way around this. My sessions are always heavily modded and this is the main issue i deal with, giant fleets that lag end game lol. I feel like admittedly the main causes for lag are the number of ships needed to be rendered, 100 corvettes and 50 destroyers/frigates every 5 out of 10 fleets ai have is worse than the cruisers and battleship numbers overall. I always thought upkeep/cost are the two biggest hurdles to figure out lol.

@Heroicone1 Actually, this was the original idea but after lots of experimentation I gave up on it because it was causing too many issues. For some reason the icons bellow the fleet power that signify how many ships of each class a fleet has, are tied to the "size" of ships. So if I made a corvette be a size 2 instead of 1, it would appear as if it was a destroyer... I tried to get around this with making custom classes but overall it wasnt worth it...

Would potentially reducing total fleet command limit (the number of ships in a given armada) be a good work around for upkeep? upkeep gets brute forced by ai usually, but fleet command limit is a lot harder to get around. I admit its not the best solution itself, if ai/player still have high naval capacity they can just ♥♥♥♥ out 30 fleets even though the fleets themselves have low numbers. I hate the doom stacking in this game lol. Wish it was possible to change the values so 1 corvette is 5 and a destroyer is 0.75x. roughly 8, and cruiser is 16 or 18, battleships are where those values jump more. I dont know, i have had in the past used a civic from a mod that reduces ship cap down 50% while nearly doubling almost every value a ship has (armor/shield/hull/dmg) and doubling build/cost twice was really useful. I thought it was a good civic but was op against none heavy civic empire fleets. But the idea behind it is really good.

Understood. Would be great if you could add this in the description, so it not gonna ruin someone game

Fallens and crisis dont play by the book. If I remember correctly, this mod never affected them. All i can recommend is to either lower the difficulty or use a mode that allows you to customise the difficulty.

I mean, devs defenitely change some difficulty setttings so i have fallens with 600k power on pre-admiral setting and around tens of fleet with 200k power on lategame cryzis)

Looks like it doesnt affect Fallens and Crysis empires so its just unplayable

Does it crash on loading? When you start a new game? When you try to add it to an existing save?

hmm weird, its working fine for me so far. Are you running other mods as well ?

Seems to be crashing out, can't get it to run

Thank you!!!

You should be able to play now, but it will take more time to tweak the ship costs and upkeep.

Hey guys, I will fix it asap. I dont know which part of the code they have changed that causes this. I need some time :(

Looking at the comments it seems the creator is on hiatus and has been for some time. No matter where i put it in the mod loader it crashes the game into a brick wall, even if its the only mod. Cool concept but would not recommend installing this until it gets some TLC.

crash

Keeps crashing even as the only mod in use, not sure what the error is. But, it won't lauch

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it crash

update pls

Can you make a mod that simply reduces the max limit from 9999 to something like 100-200

thats fair enough! thanks man :)

@FailFailWin Sadly im currently away from my pc and will be for most of the next year (compulsory service). If you could make that submod, it would be awesome. It shouldnt be too much trouble if you throw a modifier on one of the starter techs for example. On the stellaris modding wiki you will find all the info you need. Also if you need some help there is the stellaris modding discord :)

thanks for the update :) Maybe poke the power projection as a submod? then it doesnt risk the main mod's stability but lets people try it like an alpha?

If not, if you know where to poke a modifier for it I'll happily try and put together a submod myself!

@FailFailWin You are most likely correct, its unavoidable unless I also change how ppi is calculated which I would rather not touch for now. I will work on a x5 version once I find some free time.

Just a quick heads up, I think this might be affecting power projection influence generation, I'm straining my naval cap as usual but only getting .6 or so instead of the usual 1.6-2.0 :) otherwise loving the mod!

Loving to see this sort of mod developed! Adding my voice to the chorus for a x5 version, I miss the old days of early stellaris fleets :)

@Thrawn I tend to have around 600 or so when normally i had over 1k. Depends on how much you focus on it as well. About the fleet anchorage building or however its called, I couldnt get it to work so I left it as it is :/

@Henry L Castle I see (though fleet anchors also give flat bonus and it's still +2). Btw, around what numbers naval cap tends to be late game with this mod ?

@Thrawn Yes it is intentional, I havent nerfed or changed anything that gives a % based bonus, only those that add a fixed amount to naval cap.

leader trait "fleet organizer" still gives + 5 % fleet cap (1st lvl) as in vanilla. Also, logistic corps tradition from supremacy gives + 20 %. Is it intentional ?

@spacemarx hope u like it!

Stumbled across that video by montu, and came straight here.

I'll give it a whirl and see how it goes. Cheers, Henry!

@Noobinator, I think what the mod is trying to do conflicts with how you play the game... From a point of cost for what you get, the Jugg is kinda broken when you cut everyone's naval cap by half. 100k HP for the price of 3 titans or so

I'd subscribe but you nerfed juggernauts :P. I love building 10 of them with the jump drive cooldown, who needs admirals. I mean 10 strong leaderless ships seem to be better for late game performance, so it seems kinda counter conducive towards your mod goals.

Yeah glad it works now. I have and everything looks fine.

@zaramo glad it worked out finally. Have you considered the possibility the contingency might have infected your pc ?XD

Okay the weirdest thing, I removed this mod and rolled back the game to 3.9.2 then subscribed to mod again and it worked. I have gone back to game version 3.9.3 and the mod is still working. Not sure what was going on but it seems to be all good now.

I dont know but probably they aint compatible. Ive never played with mods that add more ships ect

I should also ask about compatibility with ESC

Is it compatible with NSC?

This mod conflicts with expanded starbases by Tovius. Experimental version didn't have such issue :(

@Cutiegorgon Because the concept of the experimental version was ported to this version and was implemented in a better way :) . If liked the experimental, i think you will like this one as well

Why did you delete the experimental version of your mod? Just curious

@MrPiromaniak Yes there are going to be compatibility issues with mods that edit the same vanilla files. But so was the other mod. AI works fine now compared to the previous version of the mod, where it couldnt field a navy to save its life in some cases. I also play with some mods and dont have any issues, but I would call my game "heavily modded", thats relative to each player. The mod currently ONLY changes base values.

I just found this mod https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2605655339
And it looks like all that I wanted, BUT
Why corvettes - 4, but Destroyers - 10?? Titan 95???
Is it so hard for people to maintain consistency?)

The problem with your way of doing it is potential compatibility issues, if you are editing all traits, civics, traditions, etc. That makes your mod is no-go for people who play heavily modded games.
Also, wouldn't AI go insane? (Not sure here)
So, in game files there really is no point where you can just change raw base value and everything will compute by itself?

@MrPiromaniak I reworked the mod because it wasnt working as intended. It was a good idea on paper, but not viable when you try to implement it. I still dont know everything that got affected from changing ship size, nor why the devs used the ship size on files that have nothing to do with naval capacity ( like the icons that appear below your fleet power on system view) but it is what it is and I had to either scrap the mod or adapt it. Currently the mod doesnt use any modifiers so all vanilla modifiers work as intended. All it does is more or less halve the navy capacity for all empires as well as double the cost, build speed and maintenance of all ships and their components. And yes, defense platforms are also affected by this. Im sorry you dont like it.