No interaction. Pup+ broke after latest patch. That's all. Just wait for an update.

(My last post simply highlights the changes that the base game made in the latest patch that leads to the error.)

Ah, I came here after troubleshooting a few days to let you know that this mod breaks something and leads to a black screen. I see that was already reported. If I'm reading this right, it's because of an interaction with pups+? I've used them together just fine before this :(

Personally I know very little to nothing about modding for rain world or coding for that matter so tbh I have no idea what any of that means. I even noticed that the "known incompatible mods" in the description of Pups+ mod's page doesn't list Simplified Moveset either.

I would say you are right on the money. I am surprised that it works at all.

The thing is Pup+ tries to patch the old version of Player_Jump() (0.65 appears twice):
base.bodyChunks[0].vel = Custom.DegToVec((float)rollDirection * Mathf.Lerp(60f, 35f, t)) * Mathf.Lerp(9.5f, 13.1f, t) * num * (isSlugpup ? 0.65f : 1f);
base.bodyChunks[1].vel = Custom.DegToVec((float)rollDirection * Mathf.Lerp(60f, 35f, t)) * Mathf.Lerp(9.5f, 13.1f, t) * num * (isSlugpup ? 0.65f : 1f);

But the new version is (0.65 appears once):
Vector2 vel = Custom.DegToVec((float)rollDirection * Mathf.Lerp(60f, 35f, t)) * (Mathf.Lerp(9.5f, 13.1f, t) * num * (isSlugpup ? 0.65f : 1f));
base.bodyChunks[0].vel = vel;
base.bodyChunks[1].vel = vel;

It looks for the number 0.65 twice via a function that hard fails if it is not found. Why this does not fail the first time I don't know. Maybe it does but it is not logged or something.

I'm also wondering if the basegame/watcher patch from the other day (1.1.5) could've broke something in pups+ cause I noticed in the comments section of that mod that other people have been having issues with it as well. I've had Simplified Moveset & Pups+ enabled side by side for a long while now (prior to this basegame update) & I've had no issues, so I wonder what's up with that part. Thought I'd let you know from my experience cause I'm confused on why it would be having issues now if neither mod updated but the game did & maybe the basegame update broke something with either mod. Maybe watcher broke something? idk- Could be anything at this point.

I unsubbed to pups+ for the time being; things seem to be ok for now. I wonder why this mod & Pups+ only started having issues for me only after the latest basegame/watcher patch (1.15-something) but I sent a log regardless to the pups+ mod creator as well.

Can you unsubscribe from this mod or the mod Pup+? They are incompatible.

Context:
Pup+ does not like it when some other mod patches the function Player_Jump(). The mods don't even need to conflict at all. In that case, the modloader resets the patches and applies them again. Pup+ fails the second time on its own. I tested this by applying an empty patch that did nothing to the code. Pup+ still failed. Removing the patch completely worked.

https://pastebin.com/geVq3Mym

after the game updated today; I sent this log to the discord server on RW & was told this mod was causing some issues resulting getting stuck on a black screen.

I thought this would let slugcats crawl on the background like lizards can, I haven't seen any other mod do that still cool mod tho

It's intended. If you want to use it there is an option in the remix mod (REMIX menu > remix mod) that swim boosting costs no breath. In that case it should work.

the swim option seems to disable swim boosting. is this a bug or intended?

sounds good

I already pushed an update. They might still need to push theirs.

I would appreciate the added compatibility at the expense of not being able to play this mod with void since I like the new regions, changes made to vanilla regions, and tweaked game mechanics

And thx for the version just for me you're kind

Btw I buyed rain world in 2018 and finally can play in 2023 with your good mod

^^ good luck

Okay, they asked me, if I can auto disable these two options when Void is used. I'll do that in v2.7.3.

I just checked. So far they said that they provide a special version just for you where you can have both mods enabled. Then you can play with whatever incompatibily they have. It does not sound like they actually fixing the problems. So, I can revert the blacklisting too, you need to disable wall climb and wall jump at least to make their wall climb work.

Is that okay? I can revert back to the previous version whenever.

They will add the combability for your mod

What do you mean?

Noooo I can't play anymore

They will realese the update next week

You can unblock

They will add the combability

I blacklisted their slugcats in v2.7.2. Any other slugcat will work as normal. If they remove their compatibiliy check you can enable both mods. But you won't get any movement changes for blacklisted slugcats.

They accepted yay

I asked some help to the last wish team

So we can't use void with the mod?

*Blacklist the slugcat as in when you blacklist other players via the option menu.

I did some quick testing. The wall jump / climb option collide with the wall climb from the slugcat Void. There are some other issues like holding down will not grab beams as intended by this mod.

I am thinking to simply blacklist Void. Then both mods can be enabled at the same time (if they remove their incompatibility check).

But of course, you would not get the movement from this mod. At the same time, if they want to have special movement for their slugcat, then I would rather be out of the way. (With all these options and my skill issues ^^, the code base is already way more fractured than I would like it to be.)

you can ask combality with your mod on the discord server of last wish too ^^

if they don't want your mod I will be like in 2017 when I buyed the game and can't play until 2023 with your mod cause I have some issues

(I am stupid. I can change the mod id to bypass that for testing. But yeah, even if I fix things if they want to prevent both mods together, they can do that.)

Awww so you can't help ?

The incompatibliy popup is from the mod Last Wish. From the source code of that mod:
```cs
foreach (ModManager.Mod activeMod in ModManager.ActiveMods)
{
switch (activeMod.id)
{
case "blood":
Blood.Init();
break;
case "mosquitoes":
MosquitoCompat.Init();
break;
case "SimplifiedMoveset":
throw new LWIncompatibleModException(activeMod.name);
}
}
```

Not much that I can test here. Decompiling does remove the comments too. I did not find a link to the original source code to check if they mention why they want to disable SimplifiedMoveset.

thx ^^

good luck

I'll have a look (probably not before the weekend).

I can't play without this mod

same

whenever I use this mod with last wish I get an incompatibility pop-up and the game restarts without last wish enabled

That is intentional and it is like that for a long time. I dislike accidental wall jumps. You get them when you try to spam jump over some debris where some pieces are large enough to wall jump from.

You have a bit of leniency in the modded version. You can press jump before changing directions and still get a wall jump for a couple of frames. You also have a couple of frames to do a wall jump from mid air after leaving the wall (vanilla).

that's always been a thing as far as i'm aware

idk if its a glitch but now to walljump i have to let go the key im holding to the wall before jumping and i dont remember it being like that did anything change with TW1.5?

slog caat

Some one Discord mentioned that this only happens when you have the music muted.
https://discord.com/channels/291184728944410624/1420808516565729300/1421012488714977331

There is a vanilla(?) bug right now where the slideshow cutscenes hang. You can still skip them by pressing jump.

s̸o̷ ̷i̷t̶s̶ ̴h̴a̷n̴g̸i̵n̷g̶ ̵o̷n̵ ̵c̴a̸m̸p̷a̷i̶g̷n̶ ̴l̷o̵a̶d̴ ̴n̴o̴w̸... fun...

alright thanks; take all the time you need

Thanks for the report. I'll check it out.

I have the "Swim" toggle toggled on; I expected for to have infinite underwater breathing like usual but since the latest update; despite having the toggle on; the game acts like I have it toggled off.
(I've only tested it so far in Expedition as Rivulet) Thought I'd let you know.