That third one is a slippery slope. I think it's fine the way it is, so what if it's hard. Next it would be something else, then something else... Once you learn how dangerous the edges are you can plan on how to move along those streets, sticking to the buildings which naturally prevent you from falling off, prioritise chargers and take them down quickly with your best guns, move quickly in between waves of three specials, etc. It's meant to be dangerous and it is, but it's perfectly fine if you make dealing with those edges your main focus. And having invisible blockers there would make no sense anyway - why would they be there within the game world? SH didn't have them, the original L4D campaign didn't have them, they don't belong in this update. Next thing we know we're putting them along every edge of every street in the campaign because it would make no sense just having them in one spot in one chapter. For me it's a hard NO, leave it as it is.

@Kyle H. McCloud, I've read your review in the discussions. Thank you for a comprehensive feedback.

Let's break down the suggestions you submitted:
1. Should be an easy fix. I'll be sure to check that out.
2. I saw it is possible to have bots ignore fall damage in Roku's RE3 campaign, I just never got to this. It's a valid suggestion, I'll be sure to implement this in the next update.
3. This one is very hard to decide and I wish we had polls for this on Steam. The 7th chapter is arguably the hardest one in the whole campaign. New players will be frustrated regardless. I wouldn't really want to tone down the challenge. You don't get chargers there every time. I think a hint about being more careful would do better.

If you got more suggestions feel free to submit them

Great work once again on restoring this campaign! I just finished another playthrough and I have a few suggestions if you're planning more updates:

1. Alessa's portrait in the hospital has a misaligned texture. You should be able to center it in Hammer.

2. You can stop bots from killing themselves on ladders by adding triggers nearby with the following output:

OnStartTouch > !activator > IgnoreFallDamageWithoutReset > 5

Disabling ledge hang (swap in DisableLedgeHang for the input) is also helpful for tall ladders. These two outputs are red in Hammer but they work in-game — even Valve uses them.

3. Would you consider adding invisible walls in the second half of Other Church to keep players from falling to their deaths? For such a long chapter, being instantly killed near the end always sucks. I understand if that strays too far from Leafo's vision, but in fairness those maps were designed before Chargers existed — therefore, I'd argue the map is more difficult than intended.

My last list of bug fixes was so minor that it wasn't worth bothering you with, so I don't have anything major at all to contribute at this point, please don't think there are still loads of problems I found which you just didn't have time to fix - there are no big problems and about 3 absolutely tiny nitpicks or question marks. Sometimes people come in here with bugs which I never experienced (like campaign mismatch problems, etc), but that's different from QA obviously. If you are ever in the mood to give the campaign another pass then I'll be around to playtest it for you :D All the best in the meantime, hope you're well.

@Unknown - When I say it can't be controlled I just mean not without changing the spirit of the campaign, but I knew you could technically change it if you wanted to. We do still get people asking for it to be changed, obviously, but I think the best way to handle that would be to release an alternative campaign version where that is the only change (because some people hate the random roll thing).

@Goo Ball, @Dysz, It is possible to make the ending controllable. However, this would require major changes to create conditions for this. Unfortunately, I do not have time for such drastic changes right now. Gladly, it seems that the update I pushed almost a year ago fixed everything that was troubling many people. I can still do the bug fixes. Goo Ball, I believe you got a new list. Feel free to DM or e-mail them to me. I'll get to it eventually

@Dysz - The outcome is randomly chosen from a pool of 4 possibilities. You can know which one you got by the little preview scenario in the hallway in the penultimate chapter, and if you don't like the fact that you got the Arena you can restart the chapter in the hope that it will give you one of the other ones. No, it can't be controlled, and to build this in would be against the spirit of Leafo's original design, which is exactly the opposite of what this project is about.

@Trof053 - Glad you enjoyed it, I did, too.

Is the outcome randomly generated? Can the outcome be changed to controllable?

thank you so much for this, it feels like the upcoming remake

@lamb64, Good. Do yourself a favor and try out this version. Trust me, the difference is significant. You won't regret it

sorry for the mix up i found the correct page to the map i played

@lamb64, Funny. Do you realize that the recorded vid you sent is not the version of the map listed on this workshop page?

Now I wonder, how many people have actually played other versions of this campaign, and then expressed their discontent about the quality of the campaign in the comment section here.

@ sam - Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. Try out the Otherside Of Life campaign if you haven't already, it's (loosely) based on SH2 and was made by the same map author.

This is just SH1 but way easier than the actual game and easier than L4D1's version. The map is fine, it provides the essential of SH1. not liking the map is fine, the ACTUAL game is as long and more confusing considering there's hardly any hints and the map was pretty trash. if for some reason you have played sh1 before, this campaign is genuinely a nice walk to memory lane without the annoying parts of the actual game and without the cool story aspect (the entire hospital section was the coolest and it feels watered down here lol)

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one of the worst designed maps ive ever had the misfortune of playing

OK, now we know what you think. We don't know what you mean by 'decryption', but we do know you failed to turn on Game Instructor. The important thing is that now you're aware how bad such a campaign could be you're able to go and make your own far superior version. We'll be over here on the edges of our seats.

Even if you restore the original decryption, you should have L4D2-like excellent guidance and decryption ideas in L4D2, without prompting anything, which is extremely bad for players who have never played Silent Hill.
To me, this map is a piece of rubbish. It has no feeling of L4D2, and I don't see any features of Silent Hill.

As far as I know, this error happens when the local version is different from the server version. Delete ALL versions of this campaign, download it again and make sure the exact same FILES are on your hard drive that are on the server. Once this is done, go into Steam and Verify the L4D2 game cache files. Also, make sure you are not using any modified game files, such as cfg files which enable cheats. If this still does not work get back to us.

did not work still please help

I cant seem to get to work on my server it keeps saying string data not correct. i have now deleted all files in my server temp, willl try now but i need help if this doesnt work.

@ sprefans - Can you explain it or send me a PM if you don't want to reveal it?

The penultimate chapter has a beneficial bug that allows me to open the final wooden door without taking the ring.

@ Artie. I'm glad you got it sorted, it's recommended to play with no other mods or ini modifications, it can cause problems (I found this out the hard way). If you're interested in cheese I suggest you read my guide and play through it again, there's a LOT of stuff in there that will help you. It's stickied in Discussions and it's on GameFAQS. Thanks for getting back to us.

I have not played Silent Hill once in my life, and somehow managed to pass through this campaign without much trouble in the puzzles, the map gives just enough information for me to use, so personally I like this campaign, definitely a sweet spot for me, the darkness isn't that annoying and I don't run any special flashlight addons, but time consuming? Definitely, takes a long ### time to beat thats for sure, my one complaint is the Church with the witch that kills everyone not just the one who startled her 😭 i don't have many friends that play l4d2 so i really struggle with bots there.. (Found a way to cheese it, screw you witch.)

@Goo Ball - I think it may just be a problem of gamemodes
When I start Chapter 6, the doors try to close behind me, but they don't lock, the wall blocks away the staircase so I can't progress either, but I do believe it is because of just some compatibility issues, that being that I play completely alone (no bots whatsoever, little atmospheric horror thing to match the Silent Hill vibe), I don't really see that as a big issue however I run through the 5th chapter pretty quick, thanks for the support though

I would be lying if I said that this map is good but I won't lie this map sucks it's very confusing, very dark, very time consuming, and the story wise it's confusing too, what a waste of time

@ Artie - I can't reproduce this problem, so can you confirm the following for me:

1 - Chapter 6 starts in the elevator, it shakes a bit and then the control panel blinks ON with a blue outline, allowing you to use it to open the elevator door.

2 - You can hear a sporadic clicking in the background, like something is trying to close but can't.

3 - You can open and go through the brown double doors on the left, just outside the elevator, and that they are not locked and do not lock again behind you once you're through.

4 - You can open the next set of brown double doors in the corridor beyond, after turning right, and again they don't lock or close behind you.

5 - When your entire team goes halfway down the first set of stairs a wall appears behind you, at the top, preventing you from going back.

Please let me know that all of these are true, and if you can take screenshots or even upload a small gameplay video to MediaFire or something I'd be happy to take a look at it. Thanks.

For now I'll do the same and see if I can reproduce your problem. In the meantime, please start from chapter 5 (which is easy to run through and has plenty of equipment you can take into chapter 6 anyway) and hopefully that will be a temporary solution. Thanks for letting us know, I'll get back to you.

When you leave chapter 5 you do so in an elevator, which has a button control panel on it which opens and closes the door. You're then supposed to start chapter 6 in the same elevator but now in the Alternative Hospital, and you should be able to leave the elevator and enter the 4th floor corridors. There is a hidden wall here which starts open but which is timed to shut behind you once you reach the stairs, and it's there so that you can't just run back to the elevator and use it as a temporary safe room. It's possible that timed event is somehow misfiring when the player chooses to start from chapter 6. I tested all this stuff a lot and this never happened to me (I even spoke specifically with unknown about that mechanism), so if it's going wrong for you he will hopefully be able to fix it.

on alternative hospital if i load in there without beating the last chapter i just get kinda confused, I spawn in an elevator with guns on the fourth floor and have nowhere to go... all the doors are jammed and the staircase is blocked with a wall...

How do you mean "bugs out"? Bear in mind there are two doors, and you've only mentioned one, so I'm betting you picked up the key for the second door and tried to use it on the first door. Keep looking for another key. (This has been mentioned several times before in this comments section, and is taken from the original game.)

In the "Alternate School" chapter, the key to the classroom bugs out and isn't usable.

@ dylancares

Thanks for your feedback, it's nice when people go into detail instead of just saying good or bad. The encounters you mention represent boss fights from Silent Hill, as you probably know. They're therefore not put in to troll the player, but rather because L4D2 obviously can't import the SH bosses and needs to use equivalents instead, which means either tanks or witches. Other Church can be even worse than you mention because of the fact that at least one wandering tank will likely spawn, in addition to the two scripted ones. Despite all that, Other Church is one of the highlights for me, a chapter which you have to spend all the previous chapters building up to (as I describe in my guide), and if you have therefore collected all the best gear and kept your team healthy it becomes far more enjoyable, but never not challenging.

You will get lost in this map if you try to do it on your own without ever having played Silent Hill before, I was lost for a while but I eventually found my way and experienced the whole campaign with plenty of satisfaction. I have a few issues with some choices made though... There were two troll tanks, one at the very end of the horrid (yes, HORRID) map "other church", and one at the end of "amusement park". There is a scripted witch and horde duo spawn on a street in "church" that was harsh enough to be mentioned. Along with the tank fight in the large pit in "other church".

In summary, this campaign IS worth playing, I recommend playing it. (Perhaps consider increasing your flashlights' fov when playing the darker maps)

If you are playing expert (realism, not realism, or any altered rule set that will increase difficulty), exercise EXTREME patience on the "other church" map, or you may end up frustrated.

@wuchan thx i played sh3. Now i still want SH4, Origins,Homecoming and Downpour

@Sanford I know it's very confused, but this is much easier than original game (in term of view and gameplay)

confusing map, dropped it after 2 hours

@Dante, someone made sh3 as left turn silent hill 3 tribute (not full map lsh3) long ago. sh2 is still unfinished till this day. you can play silent hill: otherside of life, it has sh2 references

my nightmare...

@ Dante - Otherside Of Life (see PhalanXdarken's link) is the L4D2 campaign of Silent Hill 2. I agree, I'd love to see 3 & 4, but Leafo isn't around any more and he'd be the guy you'd want.

@ PhalanXdarKen - Otherside Of Life is a L4D2 version of Silent Hill 2. It's brilliant and was made by the same author (Leafo), but has not been refurbished in the same way that Silent Hill has, which is the campaign provided here. Play Silent Hill first, then jump into Otherside, the second chapter in particular is astonishing.

too bad we dont have devs to make SH2,3,4,Origins,Homecoming and Dowmpour

@PhalanXdarken, what you sent is a completely different campaign

Hi whats the difference between this collection and this ENHANCED version??? IDK which one to play https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=1928497500

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@Arsosuchus - read my guide (stickied) and you shouldn't have too many problems!

10 de 10, no entendí nada.


Good mod :)

i really wanna play this maps but theres a lot of si and ci going around even on the start of the map, even tanks