It only gets worse from here somehow.

Bruh, you guys just sent me down the biggest rabbit hole of the ck3 modding community. LOL

@javelin55 I dont know what kind of elder scrolls games you are playing but homophobia isnt really a thing in setting. Also making a mechanic that actively encourages you to kill gay characters for being gay would still be homophobic even if it was a feature of TES.

i helped with making parts of the mod, i was in contact with the dev for a good while. i dont think he was bullied away from modding, he just kind of stopped being online at some point, maybe decided to do real life stuff. as someone here said the mod wasnt destroyed

Your mod was one of the reasons why I started modding ck3. The ability to have a truly nuanced EK2 game is something we will most likely not see again any time soon.

good mod though

Devs of ek 2 are legit toxic people. I hope this mod gets uploaded to paradox plaza or loverslab or better yet, someone makes a different ek 2 mod.

the mod wasn't "destroyed" - it was abandoned by a shitty dev who talked shit and couldn't get hit

Okay, I ain't familiar with the drama surrounding this mod, I don't know if the mod author is Homophobic or not, but, as a Bi guy who is as far left as you can get, fucking over a mod because it added In-Lore Homophobia is stupid and wrong. If the modder was hateful, and did it for hateful reasons, that I kind of get, but even then, I see no reason to destroy this mod in the way that did happen.

Мод еще работает?

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Based Debuffs

why are the EK2 devs like this? Why cant they be normal???

I know this may come as a surprise to you, CosmiK, but a lot of people aren't apathetic egoists who only care about themselves.

no way some players actually geeking that theres a gay debuff😭

@hamsterdoom360 : Yes, search for Rebound - Ruin system for EK2

Is there a mod that only adds the excavations? I don't really give a hoot about edicts, disasters, or all that other stuff. ._.

OH and by the way, before you rag on about "code transparency", just know what your trying to twist as malicious behavior is a common thing, modders and gamedevs add all kinds of unannounced easter eggs, secrets, changes, whatever the hell all the time and all your doing is just beating a dead horse of a man whose had his name dragged through the fucking mud by a community he just wanted to be part of.

how are people still arguing about this its been years and admittedly what was done to the mod author was an injustice, this guy put in effort to make your game better for free and you people want to anklebite and sandbag him, attribute his code to "malware like behavior" over a pointless and contemporary political issue.

you want to know what "malware like behavior" is? it's thousands of dollars in your bank account going missing, it's your phone number getting pinged with countless verification codes and your accounts nolonger being accessible to you not hiding what a trait really does to your character in a videogame so you don't what your talking about shimmer end of story

"malware like behavior"
ok forget the gay debuff now THAT is based

@Shimmer
Если не затруднит, объясни подробно, в чем суть спора, я вижу это так, LGBT просто ущемились из-за мода, где добавили последствие гомосексуальных связей среди персонажей в игре, что по факту, вполне реалистично

@Shimmer
Честно сказать, я не вникал в суть. Если это было просто скрыто и нигде не упоминалось, то да, это плохо, если это отдельная настройка которую можно включить по желанию, то почему бы и нет. Все же гомофобия хоть и неадекватное явление, но имеет место быть, в играх в том числе, и да, я абсолютно толерантен к LGB людям

@Sly Kitsune

Адекватный человек не тратить время прятать дебаф в своём моде. Это уже ваша обсессия с нами - до такой степени что чев о нас думаль когда делал мод который с нами не связан

причём он это прятал, если тот же дебаф был на нордах или имперцав, вы эту фичу по имени бы называли - псевдовирус, мод делает что то необъяснимое и с ним не связанное

Keep in mind - none of this was stated to be a feature anywhere.

I don't think its that crazy of a thing to say that mods shouldn't hide debuffs in their code and do stuff they don't explicitly state to do. This wouldn't fly if it were to apply to anything else - like debuffing people for playing Nords or Imperials, but the moment its the gays it becomes acceptable for some reason.

People are willing to defend malware like behavior if its to own those darn queers, and thats incredibly funny lol

The homosexuality debuff was applied to your imperial decay modifier if you employed homosexuals at your court period.

You could make the case that historically certain cultures were homophobic and thus characters of those cultures would discriminate against them. However, this is the game itself, not an ingame character, punishing the player for harboring homosexuals.

However, as mallerik pointed out, none of this applies to Elder Kings. So yeah, definitely put in out of personal conviction - no other way to read it.

is the gay marriage thing of malicious intent by the modder or is it meant to be subjects worrying about the possibility of no heirs? maybe it should go away if there is a guaranteed heir?

Tbh the problem is that in ck3 the sexuality is just known and open, but just useless beyond fertility or seduction scheme blocks. Gay and married with kids was great in that sense. Meant no bastards to mess up the established order actually. in IRL or fiction

Feudalism and dynastism were ironically preferable alternatives to post-imperial warlordism. Lineage is stability, against the rule of might makes right. Less issues when rulers dies, with a set inheritance, everybody swore on honor the feudal oath or had contract and had a cabinet position ready. But that all meant needing kids.

Госпаде, в очередной раз ЛГБТ ущемились на ровном месте. Когда вы уже поймете, адекватным людям плевать кто вы и с кем спите, просто не надо это выставлять напоказ и представлять чем то значимым.

1: For something to be historically accurate, it needs to be history first.

2: You can say a lot about the Elder Scrolls - hell, it's racist as f@ck. But they're surprisingly progressive when it comes to sexuality and gender.

homophobic content toggle pog

Honestly I don't care one way or another about the gay thing, maybe he should've made it a game rule you could turn on and off?
I just want the archaeology/ruin exploration system from this back. It was really fun to take your character and fund or join expeditions into the dark dungeons and see what you'd get. would make even more sense with the new adventurer lifestyles and actions to be able to explore the ruins and dungeons of Tamriel.

kormoran, my brother in faith

This mod has dragons, necromancers, time/reality travel and gods made from brass. Adding homophobia to the mod doesn't make it """historically accurate"""" - it just makes it homophobic.

Yes, the modder is the hateful one.

Get a grip.

jesus was jewish and is a prophet of islam as well, so thats not saying much either. i think he was thinking of irl slaneesh worshipers

"they worship a religion of hate or intolerancy" are you discussing islam or christianity, or both. self-own

tldr lgbtq EK2 devs bricked every save that used this mod because the dev of this mod added a debuff when you are in a gay marriage and own a big empire

now which side is more hateful? the one who wanted to make it more history accurate and wasnt attacking any1 with that or the EK2 devs who ruined countless of saves just because they worship a religion of hate and intolerancy

This is a real treasure trove of degeneracy.

what a nice read thru the comments. i love the part when society builder shits on themselves with their own remarks against other ppl. the gays find you insufferable

@goblins
牛奶大魔王 1 Apr @ 11:03am
someone did a new verson
Here's the link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3455899251

cringe losers talking about the woke mod I'm just here to say it doesn't work rn

the woke mob actually murdered this modder

what happened

Why is this mod controversial? Every time I check to see if it's been updated, there are new comments from people arguing.

someone did a new verson
Here's the link: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3455899251

I really like this mod and hope you can continue to update it. Please!

yup it works

it this working currently or not?

oh cool it's like a zoo for weird maladjusted losers in here

So in other words they are gettting payed for working on the mods so are they really doing it for free?

By the way EK2 is sponsored by Paradox interactive.

Foremost are they doing it for community or for personal fame and money?

What is the purpose of creating a mod? for yourself to play and others to enjoy?

I know you big modders get decent amount of money from modding.

Really tired of listing to the horsecrap that people spell out.

Damm woke people. Because of them this mod got not worked on no more.

Damm EK2 team they have not even updated there game as of now they made a update to just work with latest game ver there is no updates no new stuff added.

They doing pretty much nothing.

Agot got dragons and more and what did EK2 get? Nothing.

I know they get money from donations and enough to make a living with it.

Tired of all the bullcrap horsecrap from people thinking that modders such as of big mods like EK or AGOT do not get money? haha they get tons of money from donations.

@Арр Араратович: bruh