@Blueninja Exactly.

Lmfaoooooo

@Blueninja Yes.

Ooh, ya got me

@Blueninja No.

And then there's the twitter news article. (as per usual this has happened like 60 times with gamers being outraged over ooc images or quotes) A news article about backlash from twitter users (most examples having like 2 likes lmfao) who didn't read the actual survey, and what that's supposed to prove something...? heck even then, I'm comparing this survey to you simply saying that gaming is male dominated and nothing else?
Anyways if you want a good in depth look at the history of this kind of behavior in gaming, I'd have a look at Shaun(yes that's the channel name lmao)'s video on stellar blade, it goes into a good amount of detail for the history of this

A lot of people were bullied because they had interests and hobbies which didn't align with the norm at the time yes. And it's sad that in turn people are trying to gatekeep an entire entertainment industry from women because... "Now that it's popular girls want to do it" ...wha.
Anyways, the keyword is INCLUDE. It includes mobile gaming, and console gaming, and etc. It's not a survey on one specific element, It's about the entire thing. Mobile games are more popular among both genders because of obvious reasons like accessibility/being free/addictive etc.

https://thebackdash.com/gaming/netizens-question-esas-findings-on-women-representing-48-of-all-gamers-calling-it-a-dress-to-impress-narrative-which-damaged-gaming-the-most/

"The Power of Play study of ESA, which surveyed over 24,000 individuals, defines an active gamer as anyone between the ages of 16 and 65, playing video games for a minimum of 1 hour per week on a device, including mobile phones. Such an inclusive definition is contention’s primary source. Critics now assert that it bundles together casual mobile gameplay with dedicated PC or console gaming, creating a skewed demographic image."

This would be akin to asking 24K people who exercise every day if they consider themselves a serious athlete and then saying "Half of all women poled are serious athletes," when the majority of the people poled go for a walk or casual jog at best. They're not athletes.

@Blueninja It's my hobby because I've been at it since I got a Gameboy at the start of the 90s. Since I'd start saving for the money for a computer after contributing the majority to my family. Just like most other kids who've grown up since the 90s, in an era where being a geek or nerd got you beaten up. How we have girls coming in now that nerdy/geeky stuff is popular. You keep pushing a study that includes mobile gaming. No actual gamer considers these people as actual gamers. You're pushing a flawed assertion from the get-go. Randomly ask a hundred random gamers if they think women comprise half of all gamers, they'll say no.

And again, it’s already proven that women make up a major percentage of the video game market
(This is literally like when people tried to stop women from riding bikes lmfao)
And again why is it YOUR hobby? Because it was mostly men who played games before? Because teenagers grew up on cod? It’s no less “your” hobby than chess, or model kits, or anything else.

oh brother. In the year 2025 I am not going into an argument about the Star Wars sequels buddy lmfao

In the end gaming is not a “male” hobby. You don’t have to be afraid of big bad women coming in and (shudders) playing video games you like, because you literally cannot stop them. Why? Because they are human beings with the same rights you have.

No, the source shows an equal split amongst male and female gamers for BOTH mobile games and actual games, you just keep repeating your opinion as if it actually denies something lol

There are women who are also gamers, I have not denied that but they're constitute such an insignificant percentage that could easily be written off and there'd be no appreciable loss. People like you who keep trying to or supporting the push of women into hobbies by butchering them are why so many previously successful hobbies, pastimes, activities are circling the drain. The "Force is female" idiots did what nobody was thought possible and ruined Star Wars. Western comics, a once relatively healthy if niche hobby as a whole gets outperformed by singular Japanese comic or manga. You, people like you and your politics ruin everything you touch.

@Blueninja Because we both know that people who play a round of Candy Crush while waiting in line for something doesn't make a game. The source you're pushing is trying to compare people who will open a free to play "game" like Candy Crush for a few minutes or hour at most here and there to people who'll spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars/euros over the span of their lives purchasing/playing games. This is why I was giving you the comparisons earlier.

How is it an outright lie? It’s a verifiable source lol

This is the stuff that confuses me, it’s always “you’re just in denial of the TRUTH that gaming is a MALE hobby” and then when you provide statistics or surveys proving otherwise it’s “biased reporting” and “outright lies” like erm hypocrisy? Why is it so hard to accept that women also are gamers and you have no say over what they want to do?

@Blueninja Except it's not. Gaming is a majority male hobby. Always has been and always will be. Massaged statistics, biased "reporting" and outright lies will not change this.

Ok sure, good thing it’s literally proven that there’s a nearly equal split between female and male gamers across all platforms then

@Blueninja Because people who play an hour of a mobile game here or there doesn't make them a gamer. Like performing mild exercise doesn't make someone an athlete. Pouring a drink into a glass doesn't make someone a bartender. Playing with a stick doesn't make someone a warrior. Being able to cook a steak doesn't make you a chef. Being able to type doesn't make you a computer whizz. Being able to do simple math doesn't make you a nathnatician. Etc etc.

Knowing what % of people play mobile games, what % play console games, pc games etc is obviously a necessary statistic, and yea it’s a legitimate source
I’m confused why you’re so determined to just ignore everything lol

@Blueninja There are plenty of time wasting games that are similar to mobile games which are just "Perform task X and wait Y time before you can perform task X". The ESA report you're pushing includes mobile games which is an entirely irrelevant statistic and is only used to muddy waters. It is not a legitimate source.

It does also cover that, mobile games are more popular overall among both genders, you can go check if you want
Also the heck is a “Facebook game” legit I have no clue what that means

@Blueninja That considers females who might spend an hour or two playing mobile or Facebook games as gamers. They're not actual gamers. Just because I go for a daily jog doesn't make me an athlete.

If we wanna get technical, According to an esa report in 2025 it’s actually a nearly equal gender split:
48% women, 51% men sooooo

@Blueninja Gaming is a male space. Overwhelming majority of gamers are men.

Idk I don’t think I “name called” and I don’t think I was super aggressive with anything, even when the guy is saying stupid stuff like “gaming is a MALE space”
But I dunno if you already think all of that was “screeching” or whatever I doubt you’ll change your mind from a steam comment, still I’d advise to at least be open with your views, and yknow be a nice person and all
(Imo I find it funny the thing about “the name calling on the side of Blueninja” and then the next line is “these CREATURES start to screech and scream” like ok bro hypocrisy methinks)

The "discussion" which constantly devolved into namecalling on the side of Blueninja was funny to read. When a well reasoned man speaks truth, these creatures immediately start to screech and scream. Never gets old how these types shame, insult, guilt and can never admit when they are wrong, even if they are falsifying reality by doing so. Well anyway, great mod, been using it for a while.

where's the source code? you say that it's on github but what is your github?

thank you for fixing the game

crashes 1.3.2

I bet this thread makes the creator want to eat rocks and steal a jet, then fly it over a military base, for saying this is Misogyny/or a misogynist being misogynistic. 10/10 Mod thanks big dawgg.

It's not historically inaccurate because Calradia isn't real. Like, it literally can't be, they made the history. Not to mention that the differences between male and female performance between actually trained individuals is functionally insignificant.

If you wanted some form of sexual variance, a more accurate edit would make male characters start with more Strength and Speed and female characters start with more Endurance and Control. I have a feeling anon just hates women tho, lmao.

Tbh we need to even it out and make a mod for just women/j

Unless…
Jokes aside yeah good mod

uh idk what to say man but nice mod i like it

what a fight blueninja and chaos marie

damn

Women are indeed a substantial demographic and play mobile games the same amount as men do (the heck are Facebook games??) and yes a woman would absolutely be able to kill an opponent in combat even if faced with a male who had the same equipment and training, I’m not sure where you’re getting these warped facts from but sure, reality is reality wether you like it or not
Now look, I really don’t wanna go in circles with you if you’re just gonna do this, so can we stop here? You can still argue about how women are taking over your hobby or whatever somewhere better, idk maybe Reddit lmfao

@BlueNinja. Everything I've said is observably correct. The overwhelming totality of wars fought throughout mankind's history has been by men fighting men. You're then lying about what I said here, I said the only way women become a substantial enough demographic in gaming is if you include mobile and Facebook games, not indie or corporate games. As a gaming demographic, women are entirely insignificant. And again yes, women would not be physically capable of standing a chance in combat against even a similarly sized and equipped man with equivalent training.

Reality is reality whether you like it or not.

Bro you’re saying stuff like “99.99999% of combat is men vs men” and “gaming is a male space and women only play mobile games” and “I can suspend my disbelief except for when a woman wears armour that I couldn’t even wear” look in the mirror pal

At the end of the day is it THAT hard to accept that misogyny is bad and just, be nice to people lol

@Blueninja You're claiming that mankind's history is full of warrior woman (HA HA HA!). Statements that insane cannot be left unchallenged. I can only wonder at the abject insanity of the world you inhabit as it is not the reality that every one else lives in.

Dude, leave it be. You’re already making wildly ridiculous statements on women in history and you just keep jumping to random points I’m not even talking about, and again, this isn’t the place for it lol this convo has spammed the comments enough as it is

Why does it matter to me? Why does it matter to you? It's an optional mod for a single player game that you don't need to download. You made the choice to make a comment and got push back. You don't get to whine about something and then start complaining when people reply. Do you want to be infantilised or do you want to be treated like an adult?

What? History is not full of women wearing the same armour as men in battles and performing well. That's insane. Who told you that and how you so gullible that you'd believe that? About 99.99999% of all combat in mankind's history is man vs man. The contribution of female soldiery is so insignificant that any and all female combatants couldn't even be considered an outlier. This isn't just something I'm saying, it's historical fact.

No, those people are just being normal guys. Again, this has been the standard of gaming culture since electronic games and games were a thing. People would insult and banter with each other. I don't see why it should change for your delicate sensibilities.

Also idk I just feel kinda bad for you, you got bullied a bunch and you retaliated in kind, and now can’t understand why women (and men) who don’t play csgo understandably don’t like being insulted online.
I am not asking you to adjust your perspective for “my comfort”. I am asking you to change your perspective because I’ve seen people who act like you do inevitably turn into self hating douchebags, this isn’t some weird insult or a moral point I’m genuinely saying you might need to eventually take a step back and think for a bit

Regardless this isn’t the place for us to be talking about this stuff, this’ll just turn into a long ass debate that gets nowhere and spams the comments, so let’s just leave it there,

We cool?

Ugh

Ok so first of all women aren’t even troops, they are high ranking or a companion, second idk why you think women aren’t capable of wearing armour lol there’s a long history of girls wearing the same armour as men in battles and performing well, and again it is a video game, why does it matter to you? Why is everything else fine but women fighting is like, an insane stretch of logic to you lmao

I will not adjust my perspective for your comfort. I am taking the time to be bluntly honest with you and inform you why things are the way they are. In my own way, I am respecting you by not trying to ♥♥♥♥♥ foot around. I'm talking to you in the exact same way I'd speak to my friends.

There are things I can suspend my sense of disbelief like... what would make sense to you... Like She Hulk being able to toss around large boulders or jump incredible distances. I can accept this due to the unique situation. I cannot however, suspend my sense of disbelief at watching a 110lb girl wearing armour that's almost as heavy as she is, plus then fighting against men two to three times her size sporting a whole array of biological advantages over her.

@Bluenina I'm not trying to bar you from playing games. I'm trying to explain why women get push back and why gaming culture appears hostile to you. Initially, we tried treating you as treated male gamers. We insult, we berate and "attack" each others. CoD lobbies were legendary for it. Then in come girls and it's as if you're weak, mewling little things that can't take banter. I remember getting called all manners of near unspeakable things and what did I do? I replied in kind. This was the culture but again, girls started coming into the hobby and that ended.

I mean that's fine if you enjoy the mod honestly, and I don't think the mod creator is terrible it's mostly just the way the mod is worded, I apologize cuz it definitely sounded like I was chewing out the creator, sorry. Regardless yeah not the best place to do conversations about the state of the community even if (cough) over 300 comments (cough) Still, use it if ya want!

Also just to add its a fantasy game with unhistoric boundaries and this would make those boundaries set up in a historic basis to the realisitic time of when combat and wars were made like this and had people with heads falling off and blood going everywhere. in my perspective i'd use this so to have male warriors in a sort of normal height and stacked in roman armour in 1000 vs 1000 battles and it'd feel cooler with a few massive male giants around that dominate the battlefeild and i can incorporate strategies from ttw rome 2 or 3 kingdoms and have fun. but heres the real question: why when i search for ai x2 size battles i get this mod that isnt related to what im looking for at all.

im not sure whats happening here but if you are talking about the person that made the mod they have few thousands of hours at the game so they intitled to make a mod for something maybe they want to play with or enjoy and maybe others may want to play with another machanic for a game too. either way please dont spam the steam mod comments, it makes players have a harder time look for what they want to confirm or know about this mod. either way have a good day thx. ^^

Omg it’s the “WOMEN ARE NOT GAMERS” guy
I hate to break it to you but you literally cannot bar the opposite sex from playing what you like because it’s your “hobby” especially for no other reasons than you just don’t think so and you also believe anybody who says you’re wrong is “brainwashed” or whatever

Yes you are clearly being misogynistic towards women and I truly do advise you to try and adjust your perspective
(+I’ve already said the game is obviously not entirely realistic, if you’re ignoring all the leaps in logic necessary for a game like this except for when women are involved I think that says more about you lol)

To pre-empt you, if you think women constitute a massive part of gaming then you're either brainwashed or looking at massaged statistics. The only way "women gamers" come close to party with male gamers is if you include mobile gaming or Facebook games. These aren't proper games either, comparing them to PC or console games would be like comparing a pebble to a mountain.
If you want to come into gaming and the first thing you start calling for is for gaming to change to suit you, then gaming is not for you. We don't want you in our hobby. If you come into gaming respecting what's already there and the established community the way it is, we will welcome you with open arms.