Victoria 3

Victoria 3

Government Run Profit (NOT applicable to 1.2+)
68 Comments
肉包子 Jan 27, 2023 @ 3:50am 
有好消息,P蛇1.2要更新政府红利份额,到时候计划经济的建筑收入可以被直接收入国库了。不知道是不是只有计划经济才有这个。到时候可以改个其他经济(合作社经济)下也有政府运营生产方式的建筑收入mod
暴躁老鸽 Jan 24, 2023 @ 7:13pm 
建议改名叫国资委好了:steamhappy:
Thadom69 Dec 26, 2022 @ 11:07pm 
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anthonator00 Dec 26, 2022 @ 2:28am 
could we see a version of this where it goes into the gold reserves instead of investment pool?
Adil3tr Dec 20, 2022 @ 1:22am 
This should only apply to command economy, otherwise it gives you way too much money.
Lastory  [author] Dec 15, 2022 @ 7:47pm 
@Banane9 This is because there is no such code for bureaucracy_cost. I treat it as an acceptable bug as a player can choose not to take advantage of it.
@Allein Unfortunately, unincorporated states DO NOT pay taxes.
@not John This feature is already included.
John Dec 14, 2022 @ 7:05pm 
Can we have similar implementation with worker cooperative? The farmers, machinists and laborers get filthy rich from dividents without contributing to the investment and STILL eat up wellfare because their "wage" could be considered too low lol.
Allein Dec 14, 2022 @ 5:50pm 
wait I just had an idea: What about high dividend tax rates? Dividend taxes are taxes on the profits of a building (or atleast taxes on what goes to pops with ownership shares)
Banane9 Dec 11, 2022 @ 4:52pm 
The way this adds bureaucracy cost makes it so that absolutely tanking your bureaucracy cap with this will keep you at 100% tax effieciency, even if you're lacking thousands, because it substracts from the production rather than adding consumption
Lastory  [author] Dec 1, 2022 @ 6:34am 
@Fat Uwu Gamer x3 In this case, this mod may conflict with mods those have changed the economic system laws. Note that a mod at the bottom will overwrite changes made those above. Also , most countries do not start the game with any bureaucrats pops owning property rights.
Giant Rat (Rule Maker) Nov 30, 2022 @ 9:00pm 
Hey, for some reason this has stopped working, it's supposed to give 90% bureaucrat investmetn pool right? Mine are jsut the same as vanilla, where should this be in my load order? :)
Thanks!
BlackLight Nov 28, 2022 @ 2:16pm 
Thanks!
Lastory  [author] Nov 28, 2022 @ 8:09am 
@BlackLight It's fine with me.
BlackLight Nov 27, 2022 @ 1:51pm 
Hello, I was wondering if I could use this mod in a mod I am making. You would be credited for this in my mod.
Allein Nov 26, 2022 @ 9:25pm 
oh ok. I hope paradox makes that a thing tho, because it is really dumb that the government doesn't get the profits from buildings that are literally owned by the government
Lastory  [author] Nov 25, 2022 @ 8:15am 
@Allein Because there is no such function (or such code) collecting building surplus directly into the treasury. A mod can simulate this function in a very roundabout way, but it will add additional UI complexity and performance overhead.
Allein Nov 24, 2022 @ 12:24pm 
Why not have it funneled directly into the treasurey? The investment pool is only useful for building. I want to use some of the railway profits for welfare (and war)
ab128 Nov 20, 2022 @ 6:24pm 
感觉后期还是合作社给的25%投资池比政府运营强,因为政府运营需要的行政力在后期上千的建筑实在是太多了,再加上官僚本身要的薪水就更高
KomechiSatori Nov 19, 2022 @ 8:33am 
投资池注入是把建筑分红拿出来给国家的,然而政府建筑没有分红。所以官僚就算贡献100%也是。。。0?
Thadom69 Nov 16, 2022 @ 11:55am 
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ziqibielai Nov 13, 2022 @ 7:01pm 
@略牛逼 所以你需要改革税制,不同的税制征收对象其实不同的,比如累进税,收入越高交税越多,所以资本家反对你启用这个法律
略牛逼 Nov 12, 2022 @ 10:22am 
实际上,最普遍的低效率形式在游戏中可以是形如某部份pop群体拿高分红,员工拿少部分分红,余者上缴,或者是增加企业部门支出从而减少分红池上缴。而非是利润率足够高却完全不纳税——这显然既不现实也不合逻辑。
略牛逼 Nov 12, 2022 @ 10:11am 
It shall be a common sense that most of the profits of government-run buildings generally go into the state budget, because business managers have to be responsible to their superiors. But in the meantime,business managers will also try to expand their power to keep more money in the government-run buildings, a place where they hold the power, so that they can take more share. It should be emphasized that corruption can only appear within the purview of one's authority. Obviously, Refusing to pay the dividends to the central government is already out of their power.
Lastory  [author] Nov 11, 2022 @ 11:03am 
@John Lennon (real) In 1836 - the beginning of a game, most countries dont have government-run (or worker's cooperatives) buildings, which means that there are no buildings can be affected by this mod. You can check if there are statements related to bureaucratic investment pool contribution in the economic system laws to confirm whether it is working.
Goofball Nov 10, 2022 @ 2:26pm 
I open up the game with the mod and nothing changed
Adil3tr Nov 9, 2022 @ 8:03am 
Okay so I fired up the game and I'm making way way more money all of a sudden (I don't have command economy yet). I think most of the effects of this should only apply when you have command economy.
Adil3tr Nov 8, 2022 @ 3:44pm 
I think railways should be exempt from the buaracracy cost.
Haemo Nov 7, 2022 @ 9:39pm 
ooft the update for bureau cost just bricked my run, now 36k deficit of bureau
Lastory  [author] Nov 7, 2022 @ 6:31pm 
事实上资本家投资比例可以达到70%(50%法律+20%利益集团),和90%相比并非质变。以官僚力成本为代价,稍多的资金流向政府财政而非pop(这对经济不一定是好事)我想应当是合理的了。
In fact, one can reach 70% capitalists investment contribution (50% from law + 20% from interest group) - not a qualitative change compared with 90%. At the cost of bureaucracy, a little more money going to government coffers rather than pops (which may not have a good influence on the economy) should now make sense I think.
QBot2e Nov 7, 2022 @ 12:03pm 
good mod.
Kåra Nov 7, 2022 @ 8:58am 
Great mod!

As others have pointed out, I see a balance issue; One solution I could think of was to make "Government-PM" cost bureaucracy to maintain (per level I would say)
But I don't know if this is possible to implement code/mechanics wise.
Magnoceros Nov 7, 2022 @ 7:15am 
90%太高了,公务员也不是慈善家啊,这样开政府机构的成本就非常小了,建议砍点数值。
duke Nov 6, 2022 @ 11:10pm 
现在版本的官僚投资池的比率设定(90%)感觉太高了。在原版中,自由放任经济的资本家是50%的投资池,已经感觉非常强力了。不考虑现实贴合与否,游戏性角度来说,90%的设置会影响到游戏平衡。个人意见传统主义0%,中间三个25%,计划经济可以50%或者更高。
如果高百分比的版本也有人需要的话,制作者可以考虑尝试在游戏规则界面有两种选项:高(90%)版本 和 相对平衡的版本(如25%,50%)
Jaztin Nov 6, 2022 @ 9:21pm 
"Most of the profits from government-run buildings would now be funneled into investment pool instead of embezzled by bureaucrats...."

thats such a funny description lmao
Pareod Nov 6, 2022 @ 6:17am 
I'm interested in this mod, but how is the balance? It seems like the player is gaining a new source of revenue with no consequence. Does this make the game much easier or is the balance mostly the same?
Suleiman Nov 6, 2022 @ 4:38am 
Based :wololo:
Top Marx Nov 4, 2022 @ 9:45am 
Very cool! I was just poking around in the files and it's absolutely absurd that nobody profits from state-owned industries except the specific bureaucrats working there lmao
Hope_wheel Nov 4, 2022 @ 12:06am 
这评论区真精彩
TheShir Nov 3, 2022 @ 4:03pm 
I think the game assumes that making it Government Run means you no longer collect fares from it; forcing you to tax everyone for it essentially. This is a nice compromise. Great mod
Gregor Samsa Nov 3, 2022 @ 2:32pm 
Never understood why the money from a government run business didn't go to the government. I understand why they might hire bureaucrats, but the government should still get a cut. Thanks for the good mod.
Lathrael Nov 3, 2022 @ 7:40am 
Great! Now i can use command economy without going bankrupt :D Thanks a lot for the mod.
Roland42 Nov 2, 2022 @ 9:31pm 
For those of you unsatisfying this mod maker's cultural and ideology background, it's just a f***** good mod. I cant believe You racist red neck actually try to prove he is wrong by math and history? What changes he mad was exactly close to the expectation of ideal SOE. So Shut up and read some book.
Starfoth The Burgundy Silk Rug Nov 2, 2022 @ 5:15am 
Ah my mistake. Capitalist vanilla is 50% for lassiez-faire
The mod is good as-is
Probably my perspective is skewed because I tried it my first time playing Britain after playing random small countries for so long
Starfoth The Burgundy Silk Rug Nov 2, 2022 @ 5:13am 
Hmm
Maybe 90-95% is a bit much. The economy becomes too easy and it gets overpowered quickly.
Since vanilla capitalists is 25% then maybe 50% contribution from bureaucrats would be best as the remaining profits it would make sense would instead go into wages or back into the business?
织田信奈子 Nov 1, 2022 @ 8:35pm 
用现实中来举例的话就像是改开前的中国保险部门曾经被收归到财政部下,保险行业实际上由国家财政直接支出和人民公社直接补偿来实行社会保障,税收与盈利也归财政和公社。但改开后保险行业从财政部又独立出来,成为了现在的中国人保、人寿保险等国有保险企业,他们享受国家财政补贴,但总体上自负盈亏,参与市场竞争,企业利润也按照持资股权分红,这种除了有政府靠山、利润上交一部分国家外和其他现代企业无本质差别的企业经济。
织田信奈子 Nov 1, 2022 @ 8:35pm 
主要还是游戏中对政府运营这个概念分的太笼统了。
按照市场参与的性质,政府运行应该也分为“国家产业”、“国有企业”两个差别,前者意味着国家直接参与社会经济,并直接从社会经济中获得财政收入,市场和计划都不影响其行为,因为是政府财政承担所有成本和营收;而后者意味着是国家控股或者带有国家背景的现代企业参与社会经济,并按照市场所有制和股权对利润进行分配,国有企业的财报也相对独立于国家财政,本质上先是企业,然后才是国有,是国家授意国家背景的企业参与的市场行为而非国家财政行为。
在游戏中的国家运营偏向于后者,而再进一步就直接变成工人合作社了,完全不存在所谓的真正的国家产业。
Forsaken Nov 1, 2022 @ 1:12pm 
Omg guys. This is not forum to show of your intellectualism.

I came here to get a feedback about the mod, but I see a bunch of nonsense.

Go do your political talk at somewhere else.
isle9 Nov 1, 2022 @ 3:02am 
What about worker cooperatives? How do they work, like vanilla or like this mod?
Ev Oct 31, 2022 @ 7:24pm 
It's very strange because this mod very clearly has nothing to do with politics and is instead a quality-of-life change for a game feature. I think that kj was just looking for a soapbox to announce their political views from even though it was not relevant at all to the mod's features.
Tibby Oct 31, 2022 @ 7:22pm 
im not sure why liberals would be socialists since those are diametrically opposed miclas, I would recommend looking up the actual definition of the words liberal and socialist.