Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic

Workers & Resources: Soviet Republic

Efficient Electric Heating Plant
24 kommentarer
1178171364 5. dec. 2024 kl. 17:35 
good:steamthumbsup:
Star_origin 2. dec. 2024 kl. 11:21 
Hello, I have used your mod, but I find that the figure of construction procedure got wrong.
Matyniov  [ophavsmand] 8. okt. 2024 kl. 13:43 
That is true, they made the power plants a lot more efficient then heating plants but i think its more fun gameplay wise when i keep it this way
macsterix 8. okt. 2024 kl. 9:10 
I did some math and (considering the fact that an ingame day has 60 hours) this should consume 0.65MW of power acording to the real energy density of coal

If we consider the output of the coal power plant as a base, then the electric heater should consume 5,5 MW

Units used:
1 day = 60h
1t of coal = 25GJ (based on big heating plant)
1t of coal = 210GJ (based on coal power plant)
1GJ can heat 5m³ of water (based on big heating plant)
Borjär Johnson 21. aug. 2024 kl. 9:11 
Some more yellow-ish skins would be nice. it destroyes my Retro-GDR-Orange City-scape :D
Walter Freeman 16. mar. 2024 kl. 12:47 
Nice mod :steamhappy:.
Can i use it as a balls heater ?
Zennith 6. dec. 2023 kl. 23:03 
I personally haven't done the math, but regarding some of the comments about resistive heating or balance of power input vs heat output... well, heat pumps are a thing! They can be 200-400% efficient at heating from their power input. Heat pumps are occasionally used for district heating, as well - they aren't exclusively used for single building heating.

So maybe this building is actually nerfed, not OP. Just my two rubles! (I very much love using this building in my cities by the way, thanks!)
Zyx Abacab 23. okt. 2023 kl. 9:25 
@ Matyniov UwU With this mod, it's possible to produce heat using whatever electrical generation system you have set up, which may or may not involve coal. It might not involve any fossil fuels at all. (Like you say, this would be useful for a solarpunk utopia, if that's your thing.)

That point alone is enough to contradict the obnoxious naysayers. Thanks for making this.
Dragonsmen 12. aug. 2023 kl. 16:13 
Just so people know all resistive electrical heating is 100% efficient, losses in electrical items is normally in the form of heat.
As for the infinite energy thing no because power generation isn't 100% so while you could use an element to boil water and you could use the steam from that to run a turbine you would only get about 40-90% of that back as electricity.
And finally why don't they just burn stuff for the heat instead of power well that is really simple a large power plant is more efficient than a small one and a small one is more efficient than something on an individual level so to scale that up if you had two large cities and in one everyone had a coal fire in their house for heating and in the other they had a coal power station and used electrical heating the power station would use much less coal for the same amount of heat in the houses.
Crozzwell 17. juni 2023 kl. 9:54 
this is basically a water boiler plant to create steam heat by using a heating element to heat up a tank of water which then turns a turbine and excess steam is exhausted. (theory)
奇怪le的233君 27. maj 2023 kl. 4:03 
Good, that meets with what I think later. Seems it does no harm except that the ground might get even colder.
Matyniov  [ophavsmand] 27. maj 2023 kl. 3:10 
And also, there is no violation of conservation, you simply take energy from one place and put it in another. You take energy that would by wasted heating the ground/reflected to space into energy that can... heat your house instead.
Matyniov  [ophavsmand] 27. maj 2023 kl. 3:08 
no no man think about it this way: electricity can travel in wires which are simple and cheap to build. Can you say the same about coal? Coal needs rail, storage, loading/unloading facilities and so on. Also, now instead of putting a coal fired boiler near a city, you can do so kilometres away in one central location, getting rid of pollution.
奇怪le的233君 26. maj 2023 kl. 23:45 
Oh, I came up with another idea. We can generate electricity with solar power plant :lunar2020ratinablanket:, but somehow the sun doesn't warm the ground :lunar2020ratinablanket: . So, something that violates the law of conservation of energy appeared :lunar2020ratinablanket:
奇怪le的233君 26. maj 2023 kl. 23:37 
Here comes the question: since most of electricity is produced through a link of thermal energy, why don't we just burn coal or something like that to produce heat? :lunar2020ratinablanket:
lalel 27. dec. 2022 kl. 11:41 
I always put my heating plant close to the city 200-250 meters away, so that I don't lose heat going trough long pipeline and buses don't drag in snow carrying workers to it and everybody else dies from cold. You wan't heat comrades? You can enjoy nice smell of burning coal and oil while listening propaganda from expensive imported radio at 21 'C inside of your apartment. We will build extra hospital for you next door later. :steamsad: Well no pollution? This goes right in middle of town :steamhappy:
Alaskan Bull Walrus 15. okt. 2022 kl. 16:33 
As a request, could you make a mod using the vanilla models, for electric brick and cement kilns instead of using kiln that are less or not at all polluting?
Matyniov  [ophavsmand] 10. okt. 2022 kl. 11:09 
yeah haha i did the math, real power plants use a fck ton of coal holy crap 💀💀💀
Dr. Pluring 10. okt. 2022 kl. 9:05 
No worries, just use it with my modified coal power plant and it's all good.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2421515140
Matyniov  [ophavsmand] 10. okt. 2022 kl. 3:45 
Huh, now that you pointed that out i googled how much thermal energy there is in a ton of coal in real life and i have bad news... sources ive seen actually point out that there is about 20-30 GJ of thermal energy in each ton of coal (and thats not electricity from a power plant, but raw heat you get from burning it) so if anything, the ingame coal powerplant is OP xD but i get what you mean... 700m^3 from 1.3 MW? That is a bit much :/. I can make a complementary mod based on the in-game coal powerplant numbers (its just tweaking one number in the config so no problem :) ). But thanks for pointing it out!
redman 10. okt. 2022 kl. 0:38 
There's something you forgot to account for - in this game the coal power plant produces 1400 MWh by burning 24 tons of coal which if you do some math, means that each ton of coal produces 210 GJ of electricity. Meanwhile heater plants produce around 20 GJ per ton, which in my opinion makes this mod unbalanced.
fjorkar 9. okt. 2022 kl. 2:54 
serdecznie dziękuję :steamthumbsup:
Mesa 9. okt. 2022 kl. 1:14 
uWu
someone123457806 8. okt. 2022 kl. 14:04 
Wish there were more alternate heat plants, personally I would love to see an electric one large enough to heat an entire city but with the drawback of needing so much power that a power plant dedicated solely to it would be required. Oil burning plants are also very uncommon and I don't think I've ever seen one run on nuclear energy