dude got mad at the old mod that don't suit his kiddo "views", it for god sake abondened for 3 years... my lovly paradox game community

1 Sexual deviants were thrown into bogs by Germanic pagans. They shunned & often murdered men for being unmanly. If there's any pagan religion that should have Homosexuality being a crime, it'd be Asatru.
Witchcraft being accepted is something I'm not so sure about either. The modern term Witch comes from an Old English word for Magic which wasn't necessarily shunned. However black magic specifically was & that seems to be what Paradox devs mean by witchcraft. In Anglo-Saxon tradition men who were deceivers, traitors & oath breakers were outcasted with the title "Warloga" (Warlock). If we view this mythologicaslly, the "Loga/Lock" was inherently tied into the identity of Loki.

2 Loki (who is a black wizard like Tolkien's Saruman) appears in mythology as Odin's (A god people invoked to swear oaths. He is a white wizard like Tolkien's Gandalf, named after Odin's staff) evil brother. Much like twin deities, one good & evil in other Indo-European influenced areas such as Afghanistan & Slavic myth (Chernobog & Belabog).
It's a shame there isn't a mod to distinguish between light & dark witchcraft (even Christians had a socially accepted white witch known as the Cunning folk).

@Kirikaze
1 The Norse people never identified as "Norse" that is a geographic description. The Norse WERE Germanic, just like the West Germanic & Central Germanic cultures aswell.
The English language really would go back to using "Theodish" (in Norse this is "þióð") instead of "Germanic" but I guess that would inspire a sense of pan-nationalism which people don't want.
This ancient heritage of people, including the Norse, saw themselves as Germanic. If you're going to make "Asatru" unique to the Norse, don't make a generic "Germanic Paganism" then. Make a separate faith for each still existing group (West Germanic, North Germanic, Central Germanic, East Germanic etc) that all belong to the same wider religion, if you want regional variety.

2 But "Germanic" paganism would either be Asatru itself or shouldn't exist.
In the west we've been basically indoctrinated to not see Germanic cultures as being part of a wider group, even though Slavs, Celts & Latin's do it. Infact, Celts drifted apart & were more culturally divided at a much earlier stage then the Germanics were.
Paderborn should still remain because the invasions from Scandinavia & the building of the Danvirk against the Franks only kicked off after religious aggression from the Franks. Many Saxons, such as Widukind himself, were given refuge under the Danes. Half of Denmark during this era had significant West Germanic heritage (it's where the Jutes & continental English came from & even some later Albingian Saxons.)

and CK3 didnt add germanic paganism

Paderborn should be a germanic holy site but not Asatru

Paderborn should've remained

It's been a while since I modded ck3 but I am guessing the game takes the holy site name from the county name so you would probably need to modify the county name in the localization/english folder

Very simple and the very BEST holy site mod for me!!!!

But I just wanted "Lejre" shown as "Hreiðr" for Asatru.
Which file and how do I have to edit for this?

Pagans believed in all Gods, as they were pagans.

@Sasquatchy
According to Gaels, they came from Egypt, (from around the time of King Tut.)
So it does make sense.
That's kind of what the whole Stone of Destiny was about.

Sure mainstream science may not acknowledge, but all the most powerful people in the world, who own everything, and the royalty themselves, believe this to be a fact.

More than likely than worshipped a variation/evolution of Ra, as did Akhenaten dynasty, that became more comparable with trade/wisdom/arts than the Sun, thus being equated to Mercury when Caesar encountered them, as most Gaels would have no memory of this by that time.
There less of a distance between time of us and Ragnar, than there is between time distance between the Gaels who fought against Caesar verse the arrival of Princess Scotia (Meritaten) and Goidel Glas, founder of the Gaelic language.

@Daclos Honestly it is an oversight not including Godafoss in Nordrland, or Donar's Oak in Duchy of Hesse, or the Irminsul next door in Duchy of Thuringia - the latter two being significant sites of sacred groves that were destroyed by Charlemagne that would have heavy meaning to reclaim from the middle of E. Francia or the inevitable HRE.

@Nibbes The Romans had a habit of associating the gods of cultures they came into contact with their own gods. This was how they allowed for tolerance of other cultures within the Empire. It is not to say they are the same god, just a variation of it that they would consider tolerable.

For example, Caesar's Commentarii during the Gallic Wars against the Celts, said their primary god was Mercury. Obviously this was not the case, but apparently it could have been a god of wisdom, divination and guides the dead to the underworld.

You see similar practices all over the Med region. Great example that still continues on is how the early Judaic pantheon was primarily made of Canaanite deities like El (Elohim, Yahweh), Baal, Moloch, Eylon, Asherah, Beezelbub, etc. You might recognize them.

@Dacios Understandable and thank you for the reply. I am just getting the increasing feeling paradox is shifting most of the "flavor" aspects especially for culture and religion to the hands of modder while themselves avoiding it like plague so they can pimp out cosmetic. I think European developers fear making anything that can come off as too "chauvinistic" in regards to religion or culture. We are from Americas so we do not care about that nonsense as much. Also they have bigger censorship there if "seen as that".
Could you hit me up with the people talking about more extensive mods related to this? I love playing Norse reformer campaign and getting impatient with paradox but my specialties is in history not modding/codes. I am losing faith paradox will add anything more to them

Anyway updated to mod, just changed the version nothing else so if anyone is having problems please report

Also regarding the Irminsul, as far as I know the northen germanic peoples just didnt ever think about it, it wasnt something that was in their cultural radar as say Kiev or Novgorod was and even that is a bit of a streech so it woulndt make much sense to make it a holy site at game start

@Nibbes That is an interesting idea that I have seen talked about in the community but to be implemented properrly I think it would requiere a full overhaul mod on how religions work, I think there is currently a couple of mods that try to do that tho I havent been convinced by any yet. Anyway that is fully out of the scope of this mod and just making it so that all pagan religions have acces to all holy sites I feel woudlnt be the best way to aproach the issue.

@Dacios also if you do not mind making them really OP give them all slavic and Indo European pagan groups holy sites. The Slavic Perun is very similar to Odin. All the head gods in the Indo European religions were thunder or sky god who was depicted as jacked warrior like old dude with big beard(hint hint hint to how European Christians depicted God themselves).
The Romans even say straight up Greek Zeus and Roman Jupiter all had an comparable figure with Germanic and Celtic people.
The Romans even made the holiest Jewish temple into one for Jupiter.
I just sad by lack of Norse flavor and would like less generic events all around

@Dacios How much do you care about this being balanced or OP?
I ask because could you re add all the holy sites you took away from Asatru religion? A bunch of pagan Saxons did flee north to any Norse realm that would welcome their mainland counterparts(Woden followers instead of Odin). Retaking that especially for reformist Norse pagan would be huge victory especially symbolically/politically for religion.
Paganism and even Christianity especially in Europe would just repurposed other religions sites. Much of the Roman Catholic holy sites in game were often pagan ones beforehand

@Slumcut I would love to see a reliable source for that statement.

From what I've found (from various sources), is that there are no actual sources saying people thought anything "weird" or in any other way being negative towards this. As a matter of fact, Sweden in general had A LOT of religious gatherings and everything related to that, showing that people in general practiced "witchcraft" or what you want to call it as a every day thing (one common thing that's been found all over is the offering of food to the Gods in certain areas).

The first time it became anything close to "weird" is when christianity started to punish "old believers" who refused to take part in it.

Maybe I´ll look into the Tenets to Doctrines mod to see if I can learn how to program doctrines to add a tiny opinion modifier for Witches, as for homosexuality you are right however I think that the -15 opinion modifier reflects it fairly enough after all they were shunned but you woulndt be killed for being a bit fruity, now I did not now at all about the sons of ragnarok thing so I will definetly be looking into it.

I do not know how to replicate this exactly in game but Norse pagans viewed witchcraft and similar stuff as a womanly profession. Homosexuality was also less accepted by Northern European pagans compared to former pagans like Greco-Romans who they called boy lovers as insult.
Also why not re add the Sons of Ragnarok doctrine to cover warmonger plus pursuit of power?

thats great to see! thank you so much OP!

Changed!

I thought that witchcraft being shunned only gave a tiny -5 opinion modifier wich seemed fine to me as like Slumcut said they were still considered weirdos even if accepted in society, however, a -15 opinion seems excessive so I will be updating that aspect of the mod

I still don't know why Witchcraft is shunned as what ZMAN831 said, they basically relied on shamans and witches throughout their mythology and religion, I don't see a point in keeping it shunned

I do not think witchcraft should be shunned.

yeah but witches were still considered "weird" to the norse, it would certainly have changed the way someone thought of you if you claimed to be one.

Why make witchcraft shunned in a faith/culture that not only had common "Witches/shamans" but basically relied on them