Kenshi
Lively Bars
87 Comments
Bubblegum Jan 26 @ 11:26am 
oh my goddd this causes so many crashes when entering bars, one crash was extensive enough to corrupt my game.
rditto48801 Dec 2, 2024 @ 6:54am 
If it keeps crashing at a particular Bar (or a particular bar layout), then try repairing the Navmesh. I've had more than a few times, where this has limited how often it crashes, or at least prevented crashes when entering a bar, until I leave the area and come back.

One suspicion I have is if using mods that add races, of said mod races interacting with the modded seats, causing an issue, perhaps relating to them not having the same animations as the base game races. It makes me kind of think of something like Musical Chairs combined with Russian Roulette.
Secondary evidence is one of my installed mods (which is supposed to cause town guards to 'rescue' downed allies) has caused a lot more people to just 'wander around', and not be in the bar, in a few places where it would have a chance to crash for me. The number of crashes when entering bars, has greatly gone down since then.
Kunky Dec 1, 2024 @ 2:50pm 
unfortunately causes Kenshi to crash some or all of the bars
Ketra Nov 25, 2024 @ 7:09pm 
sznaucer I am having the same issue. :( in Catun specifically.
Buttons_Mashed Nov 9, 2024 @ 10:14pm 
Surprised i haven't found a mod like this yet, looks neat! Would be good to know what this conflicts with though.
Frank 杨 Oct 7, 2024 @ 6:37am 
This mod conflicts with Genesis
Mazz Aug 23, 2024 @ 2:12pm 
where should this mod be placed in mod order?
sznaucer Aug 9, 2024 @ 8:11am 
for me it crashes the game sometimes when I enter a bar
Paladin Dawnheart Feb 26, 2024 @ 10:12am 
Some of you need to read the description, check you load orders and mod lists before commenting.

Love this mod but can't get it to play friendly with immersive non-combat animations mod. For that reason, I'm out.
Impos! Jan 24, 2024 @ 5:17am 
Careful with this mod, something with it and my game or possibly other mods is making me crash every time I attempt to enter the Bar in Clownsteady. Prob effects other places too.
хрю Jan 6, 2024 @ 8:33am 
Hmm, some kind of error with the Jrpg racing mod (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1605171674) , visitors added by jrpg cannot sit on the chairs that this mod adds and just stand, and from time to time the game crashes when entering the bar (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2784991207)
jugbob bandpants Dec 26, 2023 @ 5:20pm 
In some places trying to sit on a chair will result in the player laying down on it as if they were in a bed.
正義の味噌 Sep 8, 2023 @ 1:58pm 
Met a bug, and the bug was gone after unchecking the mod in the launcher.

It always lets the bartenders not go back to their spots after throwing someone out of the bars. And once the bartender leave the bar, you can't talk to them, hence you can't buy or sell anything. :lunar2019deadpanpig:
After starting the game without having this mod, I loaded, and saw the bartender went back to the right position from where they used to stuck for an eternity.
rditto48801 Aug 22, 2023 @ 9:33am 
If it crashes at a specific bar, or bars of a shared layout, try repairing navmesh. That can sometimes prevent or otherwise greatly reduce the amounts of crashing when entering bars. At least in my experience, that is.

I do wonder if there is a link between that and the rare odd bartender behavior. Also makes me wonder if there is any connection between the crashes and moded races, since they don't use animations from other mods, if that might be causing something to derp out.
Frank Aug 22, 2023 @ 5:22am 
Sometimes the game just get crashed when I enter a bar, strange.
Старый носок May 24, 2023 @ 6:54pm 
And besides leaving the game, when you close the door, the bartender goes to open the door and remains standing next to it, and if there is a fight nearby, he runs out of the house and starts a fight, but after that he does not come back and remains standing still, while he is standing outside, you cannot trade with him while you you won't push him into the building with you.
I apologize for my clumsy English...
Pappi_Rabbi May 14, 2023 @ 3:37pm 
crashes when i enter bar
maxibreard Apr 25, 2023 @ 9:07am 
Its compatible with uwe?
Emmanuel Kant Apr 20, 2023 @ 11:00am 
Crashes my game when i enter Bars
yuu Apr 6, 2023 @ 4:28pm 
@rxwr Thanks for the fix.
It's a very good mod and I will continue to use it
rxwr  [author] Apr 5, 2023 @ 3:40pm 
@yuu You are right, I checked and Crab town was indeed broken... I don't know why it does not work as for other towns, but it seems that replacing the layout for that specific bar makes it unoccupied as you said.
For now I have just removed that town from the mod. Thank you for the feedback!
yuu Mar 30, 2023 @ 9:17pm 
@rxwr Thanks for the reply.
The problem only occurs in their home base, the city of Crab.
I checked the new game for the first time with only this mod and the tavern was unoccupied and for sale
rxwr  [author] Mar 30, 2023 @ 2:19pm 
@yuu Hi, do you mean this happened in one specific town? Or all of them? If it's a specific town I can check if there's something wrogn with it
yuu Mar 28, 2023 @ 8:10pm 
Excuse the machine translation.

When I go to the club town with this mod installed, the tavern is for sale and unoccupied!
Just to be sure, I checked with only this mod installed and it was still unoccupied.
__ Mar 28, 2023 @ 2:26am 
Works really well for me; haven't had any crashes or anything. Very atmospheric.
Sullis Mar 18, 2023 @ 2:02pm 
Any idea if this mod would cause world state checker npc from Reactive World to not use sitting animation in bars?
アゼム Mar 6, 2023 @ 5:09am 
Just causes crashes whenever I enter a bar
Vith Mar 1, 2023 @ 12:00pm 
anyone know if there's a patch genesis and lively bars?
Grave Feb 20, 2023 @ 10:45pm 
love the mod, don't love crashing every other time I enter a bar. Going to have to unsub and stop using it.
Enter Name Feb 19, 2023 @ 7:19pm 
Noticed an issue that arose pretty quickly. Using this in conjunction with UWE seems to cause some bars to lose ownership. You can freely loot all the items on display (its still stealing to loot the containers) and the shops will no longer restock their goods or their cats. Typically affects bars that are in a different spot than normal. Had experienced this from towns with two bars (Sho-Battai or Heng) to places with a single bar like Flats Lagoon.
Vladislav Feb 8, 2023 @ 8:13pm 
I randomly installed this and I kind of like it, it's cute. The shopkeeper especially.
Torhem Jan 18, 2023 @ 12:50pm 
This mod will conflict with the mod Populated Cities?
RevRept Jan 16, 2023 @ 10:36am 
Awesome. One of the best mods for immersion.
nIKNAKNUIE Dec 22, 2022 @ 1:51am 
Thanks brother! Just wanted to let you know also that this mod is not compatible with KAM. It causes duplicate walls and building's. I noticed this in Stack.
rxwr  [author] Dec 18, 2022 @ 3:36pm 
@nIKNAKNUIE yep it is
nIKNAKNUIE Dec 18, 2022 @ 1:23am 
Is this mod compatible with CMkilling time?
KirrieD Nov 26, 2022 @ 1:26am 
Hi, can I take this mod and your other works for my build?)
Pers Oct 24, 2022 @ 6:44pm 
Thank you for making a great mod.
I have created a Japanese version of this mod and published the page.
If there are any problems, please contact us so i can correct or remove them.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2879388461
rditto48801 Aug 5, 2022 @ 6:59am 
One oddity I've seen. In Mongrel, the bar farthest from the gates, the barkeeper is acting like a guard. He just wanders around, and stands in the same places the guards do. My last few trips to Mongrel, he's just standing in the one 'guard position' roughly above the doorway. Luckily, you can still talk to him, and the normal barkeeper dialogue occurs and you can buy/sell stuff without issue. (mod conflict in this case?)

For those with crashes. If it is consistent with a specific location or type of bar, 2 ideas. First, try just stopping outside of the bar entry, and then walking (not jogging/running) in. Second, try repairing navmesh before entering, and see if that does anything.
For me, while crashes are very rare, it is almost always an L-shape bar (mainly at Waystations) or the one 'outpost' bar the smugglers have in Shem, and very rarely, a Stormhouse type bar.
MGJ Sakazaki Aug 3, 2022 @ 4:00pm 
I still couldn't find which mod was it. -_-
I gonna find this no matter what!
Later I come and tell, cuz today I'm done. xd
UWE, Living World, are not the culprits. =x
Oedipusdrex Jul 9, 2022 @ 7:54pm 
Was causing crashes when I entered bars. :-(
Blasman Jul 3, 2022 @ 12:51am 
will it be a Genesis compatibility patch ?
rditto48801 Jun 23, 2022 @ 3:43am 
I've run into a curious situation. A drastic decrease in the (already rare) times I have crashes. The cause is a suspected mod conflict of sorts. One that causes more NPCs at the Waystations to just wander and not be in the bar. Usually the one SW Squin 'always' has a pair of NPCs just wandering around, and is one of the most likely places I have a crash when entering a bar.
Now there seems to be as many NPCs wandering outside as there are sitting in the bar. Similar for the smuggler bar, last time there no crash issue, but a half dozen NPCs were just wandering around outside. I 'think' it is was the one smuggler group that (on previous visits anyways) was (always) sitting at the same table.

Mods I added recently that affect bars or NPCs, is one that moves Hub bar to the Snailhouse, one to add skeleton recruits to BDC, and 2 patches I found for custom races to use the Lively Bar animations (Female Androids and Robotic Limb Base Skeletons).
Push42 Jun 19, 2022 @ 12:43pm 
Who runs Genesis anyway. It's just a fcking mod collection of 200 random mods. Ofc it will not run.
Seti Jun 18, 2022 @ 7:27am 
just so everyone knows: this mod ISNT compatible with genesis, it will create overlapping buildings
rxwr  [author] Jun 2, 2022 @ 9:59am 
@Temur Alasania not really... I also use New Combat Animation and Dialogue Expanded (if that's the"new dialogue mod" you mean), and I have no issues. I just quickly tried running the game with Reactive World and Shops have more items+, and everything works fine for me. The other mods shouldn't really have anything to do with this, except I don't know what Wars and Wars EN are, I couldn't find them on the workshop...
Anyway, since they are not that many mods, you could try disabling some of them until this one works, to find out what's confilcting. Also, did you try placing this mod on the bottom of the list?
Doping Jun 1, 2022 @ 12:06pm 
@rxwr First of all thanks for replying, not lot of mod creators are doing that. Mods that I use are: new dialogue mod, Wars, Wars EN, Reactive World, Move Mod, More Combat Animation, Shops have more items+, Renturo's nice map ENG, training mod. Any idea how to fix the problem?
bao May 31, 2022 @ 6:00am 
@rxwr yes, it's part of the vanilla game. One of the bounties appears in bars in disguise and the only way to identify them is listening to the dialogues. Glad to hear it doesn't mess with them. Unfortunately the mod caused my game to crash when attempting to enter the bar in either Port South or Bark (can't remember which one). But removing this mod removed the issue.
rxwr  [author] May 29, 2022 @ 2:29pm 
@Temur Alasania sorry to hear that, as for the other cases, this is most likely due to some conflict with other mods that also change the bar keepers behaviour. If you are able to determine which one exactly, I could try to look into that.
@bao I'm not sure exactly what bounties you are referring to (is that something in the vanilla game?), but it doesn't sound like there should be any problems with that :) This mod is not messing with any dialogue or unique npcs
Doping May 28, 2022 @ 1:58pm 
This mod bugged all the bar keepers, they're just standing outside, not letting me to interact with them.