Yea, it just needs update for Mongol council names. At least that's the only thing I've noticed. They all look like kurutai_council_member.

does it still work

Good afternoon, I appreciate the effort on the mod because it's a great job. I've found a couple of errors in the Spanish translation. The following titles don't appear, which causes them to appear as follows:
duke_male_hindustani_independent_holder
king_male_hindustani_holder
king_default_male_holder_hindustani
duke_male_admin_greek
count_male_admin_greek
And others. I compared it with the English files and it seems that the Spanish localizations are somewhat outdated with the changes in English. Maybe you're waiting until a certain point or testing to update other localizations. I'll let you know anyway.

Hey just want to say this is an incredible mod. Wish something like this was included in the base game. Any plans to update? Thanks

hmm alright, it threw me off xD

Because they are independent

why is the Duchy titles for norse "Konungr, and Drottning"? they should be moved to kingdoms instead, and make duchy titles "hertog" for male, and "hertogaynja" for female

we need a update

update please

Hi friend; it looks like there is a 'k' derivative that is not properly showing in game, related to arabic tribal and clan localization. The 'ḵ" populates as a bracketed blank [x]. Happens without any other mods. Is it something to do with my PC's available fonts or something else?

count_tribal_male_arabic_group: "Šayḵ"
count_tribal_female_arabic_group: "Šayḵa"

Ashkenazi barony names are bugged

For some reason, the title drungarios is wrongly shown as the female variant drungarissa.

@St.Ar
It's a "soft error" - technically just messes in the error.log, but don't do much harm in game itself

Damn, just seen this but I didn't know this mod is still alive.
Great work, guys, I persanally got inspiration for my "Sweet Titles" mod series from this work

getting a lot of errors with only_independent and only_holder from a few files, fix seem simple because error indicates it needs to be inside flavourization_rules which for some it isnt. About 80 for independent and 25 for holder

Thank youuuuu!!!!

Is this mod supposed to take away the Greeks' unique Roads to Power cultural traditions?

What about them?

West Slavs?

Excellent work! Thanks for the update.

awww yeah

Greeks in the period should be Rhomaioi not Hellenes

Hope there's gonna be an update for administrative titles, every non-Greek culture share the same titles.

Just to let the devs know, there is a weird bug with the mod in that if your religion has Temporal as Clergy Appointment, it treats it as if it was Spiritual. If my religion has Temporal and my Realm Priest dies, the slot automatically gets filled, with you being able to choose your own.

i saw in mod folders that there is some files that has been edited since the new last DLC so probably it is not fully compatible for the moment

Doesn't need an update, it works fine

when update

I see no messages on this page for a long time, is this still working ? Or there is another mod that replace it ? I really want to play with mod like this, its very immersive. Thank you for your attention

Where should this go in the load order regarding other big mods?

noticed that the byzantines didnt have council title names. i used with the more bookmarks compatch so maybe thats the issue?

It seems this causes some issues with your liege's councils, as after a while you can't switch tabs from Your Council to Liege's Council.

This mod really masses up some cultures if you use it together with culture expanded mod

Hello dear creators of modifications for Crusader Kings 3! I know that you are one of the creators of the modification: Ethnicities & Portraits Expanded.

I noticed that there is one problem with this modification. If the character dies due to illness or wounds. Then after his death, his portrait is restored. All traces of diseases and wounds are removed....

hey I hope this gets update because there are some problems with it in the eastern countries that have weird names.

I am aware you are rewriting the mod, but a simple bug report... Polish military councilor's possessive title is missing. It should be "marszałkowski" meaning "of Marshałek". If it's irrelevant, feel free to ignore my comment...

This breaks viziers being able to take the place of your spouse, be aware.

Using this made my councillor positions broken? Said they were unfilled.

somehow in my game republic duke level vassal always use landvoget title no matter what culture they are

knight localization problem is caused by two files:
knight_culture_l_english.yml
00_knight_culture.txt

At the moment I'm trying to fix this. So far I've managed to fix it for the French culture, but there are a ton more cultures to fix yet.

Also note that this mod doesn't work well with the Africa Plus mod.

Same here for me with the knights localization.. wondering if anyone can help?

For some reason this messes up the knights names localization for me

The community is dead

Outside of the fact that CTP is discontinued, we have had this discussion many times before.

The Książę and Ksiądz switch happened ~1400s same with Czech.
Żupan is from an Old Slavic root word for tribe that, while probably not widely used in period, fits the strict 5 tier hierarchy better than Wojewoda a word not really used at all until at minimum the 12th century for the Principality of Transylvania. CTP aims for approximate language spelling at 1066.

Again multiple cultures are like this because language changes and the game has strict triggers for tiers, governments, and the like that may require a more liberal approach than just writing the exact title at the exact period with exact spelling.

@Radanos

Actually I am history graduate and a medieval enthusiast :)
So both as Pole and historian - I ask you for your sources. Where did you get your words that none of the historians use. What proves they were used in terms of titling back then. Do you have any written sources? We talk about the language, so you should. I am curious.

Show me how do you know more about the evolution of polish language and niuances of its use than a native Pole who spend decades not only speaking it but also learning about it. Looking through the comment section I see I am not the only one who asks you for that.
You talk about the immersion - all of these comment exist because we can't feel that immersion playing our own country. What an audacity it is to think "naaah, these polish guys are all wrong! I know more about their language!".

Or maybe - just maybe - you are the one who should educate yourself before trying to force your vision?

For the love of...
Please, if you have no knowledge of the language history, don't try to correct the well researched titles just because you're a Pole and you don't know the words or they seem alien. From my understanding, this project tries to immerse you in the world by trying to recreate the most appropriate language used for that time. Please educate yourselfs before trying to force your vision.

"Prince" is "Książę" while "Ksiądz" means priest.
Even if these words have similar roots (as well as rus Kniaź or czech Kníže), in fact one comes from another, using it like this looks just hilarious.

First ruler of Poland, Mieszko,is NEVER called "Ksiądz"
None of the historical books names polish rulers "Ksiądz", none of the historians says "let's talk about KSIĄDZ Bolesław". It's just not used that way by ANY Pole.
And PLEASE - don't quote wikipedia, it 's the worst source you can quote.

Duchy Wielka Polszcza and Malo Polszcza looks weird. Even if Polszcza is some grandpa form of Polska I'm preety sure these duchies weren't called like that. Just Wielkopolska and Małopolska

"Żupan" as "Count". I see it's some old word, yet it's so rarely used that I've never seen it used this way before. "Wojewoda" would be more accurate "Count".County is Województwo

King is Król. "ó" is important, you read it as "u", not "o". Same with Królowa and Królewicz

quick btw mate:

"Around the time CKIII starts in Poland, relevant chronicles and documents were primarily using Latin since it was the language of the Church, so the tiles were often only indirectly translated."

It was the de facto and de iure language of the state. That's why official titles come in Latin first - and some, like 'Regina' - 'The Queen', never even had any polish equivalent.

'-owa' suffix means, being linguistically correct, nothing more the a wife of the man with the male title in question. So 'Królowa' is, fundamentally, only a 'Queen Consort', and never a 'Queen'. You should never use a title of said 'Królowa' for the late Queen Elizabeth II .

@Synth Man
Just no, man. Get your facts straight. IIRC it was debated here already at least once.

Also, as you've said "Modern and semi-modern (after 14th/15th century pretty) sources [...]" - It's about the language from before the modern era, so that should put EOT on it.

We are talking about old Polish, which was not written down very often. Around the time CKIII starts in Poland, relevant chronicles and documents were primarily using Latin since it was the language of the Church, so the tiles were often only indirectly translated. As i mentioned, in this sense, even modern "Sędzia" from latin "Iudex" would be more appropriate in the context of the game, if you want to be specific. After all, this is how the first ruler of Poland referred to himself in "Dagome Iudex".

In any case, "Ksiądz" wasn't pronounced like it is now, and wasn't written down in the same manner, since the Polish alphabet was different. Saying that I am instantly wrong by not agreeing with it being the only correct title is disingenuous, as would be me saying that I have the only correct interpretation. Early medieval history, especially in Eastern Europe, is very blurry and there are always multiple interpretations.

Whatever was actually used at the time, "Książę" is now the more accepted term. Modern and semi-modern (after 14th/15th century pretty) sources refer to the medieval rulers of Poland around the time as "Książę" singular and "Książęta" plural; not "Ksiądz" and "Księża". It is even mentioned in the extract from Wikipedia you posted ("dziś w tym znaczeniu występuje polska forma książę").

Summing up, neither version is likely to be 100% correct, since languages are complex. I was only arguing that it would be easier to understand these titles within the context of the game and what they represent if the title "Książę" was used rather than "Ksiądz", since it is a more modern term and carries a lot more familiar associations for the vast majority of people playing and who speak Polish.

Again, I am not even asking for it to be changed anymore; I was just a little unsettled by being called flat out "wrong" in an area which has so many shades of grey.