is there a max amount the creature can die? after 60 or so deaths my snapjaw died permenantly

i dont know if you know this but this mod doesnt work for if i use the new ui, it bascially softlocks my game

Uh oh. I'll fix this when I can.

I also noticed your carrying capacity penalty for attached creatures seems to be broken, reducing their capacity to 0.
By inverting the penalty in your code, I think I figured out what's going on: some creatures are having the penalty applied repeatedly. I think a new penalty is being added every save-and-load, which is why fresh creatures have the correct penalty, but ones from in-progress saves have a far harsher penalty, as the penalties stack multiplicatively.

I tried that, but if I kill the twins, they just respawn as hostile. If I kill the original, it results in a duplicate being spawned by the hostile one that acts normally (but which is hostile) in addition to a seemingly AI-less friendly one that can't spawn clones and doesn't attack being regenerated from the body part.

It's intentional behaviour from the base-game, you have to kill the hostile twin to fix it I think?

This is probably a base-game bug, but it's pretty unfortunate still: if you choose twinning (and presumably this happens with the trining variant too) lampreys for this mutation, their twins don't inherit your faction and as such will be hostile to you by default.

Thanks now underneath the salt desert can be explored safely again (at least as far as being able to still save when a clone is in the area and means other builds are now within reason).

Fixed! Sorry about that.

This mutation can cause the game to not be able to save if a clone of the character currently exists with this mutation (even the frozen clones you can sometimes encounter) that has not reached the levels for all conjoined creatures to attach to there spots (I would assume)

The goat is broken, it has no horns and can never attack

Thank you! Seems the Scorpiock venom thing might just be a base game bug, too, so sorry about that.

Okay, everything should be working now.

Another, more minor bug I noticed: conjoined Scorpiocks have a "Stinger" mutation that does not actually apply any venom, ever.

Okay, I can confirm there's also currently errors that occur when trying to load into a save where you have conjoined creatures that haven't spawned yet; which the log files seem to attribute to "Cannot resolve mutation type for PsychicGlimmerProxyBaseMutation", or possibly an exception when deserializing info the mod uses, mentioning the index being out of bounds.
Hope this helps.

I'm on it

There seems to currently be a major UI bug with this, in that if you try to view the stats of a creature conjoined to you, it'll softlock you into the old character sheet UI page for that creature with no way out.

Well this is embarrassing, I had somehow forgotten to set the ParentObject on the copied part! Took me way too long to find out but it's fixed now.

well at least it works enough to still spawn the conjoined creature its just that anything that utilizes clones is broken (and guess conjoined having 0 carry weight is very useful since you can prevent them from dragging you across on min weight given)

Weird, this definitely used to work and I have no idea what this error has to do with Conjoined. Will try patching soon.

can confirm Temporal Fugue does not work if you have this mutation too
here is the error the log create skill is used but no clones are created https://hastebin.com/share/ofomohuhil.vbnet

Is it intended that snapjaw howlers conjoined with the player have exactly 0 carry weight Also for whatever reason clones can fail to create of the character that has it if they have this mutation at least with drone creation from wm mutation mod

"Conjoinment" body parts can be selected/grown as Chimeric extra body parts. Is this intended behavior?

Thanks, appreciate the hard work.

Just pushed a huge update with lots of quality-of-life improvements, bug fixes and balance changes! Notably, creatures keep their items on death, more fun creatures are selectable, the pull mechanic is way less janky, transformations work properly, nerfs to the starting health and carry capacity of creatures, and a couple changes to make Regeneration not insanely strong.

I'll probably have to put more work into that mechanic, it's a bit janky.

They are getting stuck on eachother making me rubberband, any workaround or fix?

Oh right, the update probably broke something. Will make a proper fix when I can.

and now it works, I'm not sure if both Regenera and Regenerating are needed as I didn't test them individually or if this will have any unintended effects. Regenera and Regenerating are apparently mainly affiliated with Ubernostrum. But my regeneration mutation now successfully sprouts my conjoined monster/companion when my conjoinment limb is regenerated.

Okay upon further inspection I realized that the conjoined creature IS in fact supposed to sprout when you regenerate the limb and not only on level up, but the events defined at the top of Conjoined.cs and in the cases lower in the file, do not trigger the execution of the code upon regenerating your conjoinment.

I didn't realize that the regenerated conjoinment only appeared on level up.

Can you just make it so that the creature sprouts immediately instead of on level up?

wtf, will look into it

okay this is a lot worse than i originally thought! if you slogify with a coinjoined part, your game will corrupt and you will lose all your mutations.

just commenting to say that conjoined creatures aren't retained through slogification. going to see if i can fix with wishes

Ah nope, from the sounds of it the changes I requested to Breathbeards probably broke my workaround.

I think is has to do with this:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1735379738

I saw the error log mention problems involving these bits of code:

"Age" "BreatherBase" "RandomBreather" "GetColorString" & "GetCreatureDisplayName"

I don't think they get along well.

Guess it broke then lmao, I'll fix it when I have time

I have the error log, but I can't send it because of the stupid 1000 character limit.

Don't think it broke.

Does this work?

This is being caused by a bug in vanilla, which I've reported and should be fixed soon. Basically the game doesn't track if movement was caused by being dragged by another creature, so the conjoined creature, when pulled, immediately pulls back what it's conjoined to. This is why you sometimes don't move when turning corners with just one conjoined creature that can't move.

As of 2/7/21: This needs to be updated.

Seems this needs a update for the recent mutation overhaul to the non beta branch

I'm getting the same issue as sdehaan: crash when moving on from the mutation screen. Making another character first and enabling "select enabled mods on new game" didn't seem to help and using the older UI caused it crash while trying to scroll down the physical mutation list.

I believe that happens whenever you make a character immediately after approving the mod, not sure if there's anything I can do about it. Try turning on "Select enabled mods on new game".

Which branch is this for, or does it require additional mods to run? I've tried it with the base game, the beta, and 2.0.200.x, and it crashes whenever I move on from the mutation screen during character creation. No other mods were active at the time.

could you make another mutation that allows you to merge with other creatures?

This is super cool!