after use a lot of chat gpt and the console commands i could talk with the sroud but ouldn't learn any psionic_tech. i think is necessary a mod to clean restrictions in the psionic technologies for hiveminds

i tried it for 4.0 and doesn't work. I used also commands and chatgpt to try it. Does someone know how to make it work or play psionic hive minds in 4.0?

Does this function with 4.0?

can you make psionic machine intelligence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFhRfbaQMno

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We need hero who will adopt this mod!

Hi. Is it normal that a new species is created when selecting "Hive Transcendence"? It kills all my planets (stability) and economy because of the change.. I don't like that :D

Thank you~(=^･ω･^)ฅ☆

@璃湘 Feel free! I unfortunately can no longer support the mod, so I'd be happy to see other people update it so that people can keep using it.

Thank you.Yeah,If one day it's not working,can I try to update it?

It is still working on 3.11

Hey, does anyone know if this mod works with the current patch?

3.10?

Could you please update it to 3.9?

is there a patch that paired with this removes utopia's restrictions between things like being both psionic and biology focused?

@Linuxield did you ever figure out what caused your problem? I'm having the exact same problem.

3.8?

Very much appreciated.

@Kessem 3.8 happened to drop in the middle of my exams, but I'll try to get around to updating the mod soon!

So the answer to my question is no, so now it remains to see if an update is coming :).

two questions if I may,
1. Does this work on 3.8 or should I wait for an update?
2. Does this mod enable the psi techs to be researched (or even consoled in) i.e psi cloak, and psi shields, which don't work at the moment on hive minds, even if I use console to add them.

@INSPECTOR PUDGE It's definitely something I'd like to add in the future. No promises though as I'm currently busy with other projects.

@Klarac Is it possible to make a Psionics tradition tree for hive mind in the future?

@INSPECTOR PUDGE Thanks for bringing this to my attention! This is because it uses the same description as in vanilla, I'll fix it now!

Hive mind over Matter talks about opening the Psionics tradition tree, but in reality there are only Cybernetics and Genetics. Screenshot: https://puu.sh/JETZJ/1fcea5a20c.jpg

@Klarac Yeah, I am. I'll try to see if that was the problem.

@Linuxield That's really odd. Are you running any other mods? If you are, then try disabling your other mods and see if it fixes it if you start a new save.

@Klarac an entirely new species, separate from my actual one.

@Linuxield Do you mean it creates an entirely new species or just a new sub-species? Because the latter is how it's supposed to work.

Hi, I'm having an issue with the mod. When I take the Hive Transcendence ascension, it turns everyone in my nation into another species instead of adding the psionic trait to my species.

@ᒲ||ᓭℸ ̣ ᒷ∷𝙹ᔑꖌ Hive Minds can't pick that origin in vanilla, but even if they could it would not be compatible due to technical reasons.

Hey, is the mod compatible with the "teachers of the shroud" origin, as it gives you psionic theory early? I tested it, and hive mind over matter says I dont have psionic theory even tho I do... Is that a mistake on my end?

@Sunconure11 Never used that mod, so no, there isn't. Sorry. :c

Is there a patch for Ethics & Civics: Bug Branch?

ah, completely understandable, take your time and thanks for responding to me

@Noxara Swapping would require overwriting vainlla files, there's ways of getting around it in this case, but it's a bit more work. I'd like to change to the new system at one point though, I'm just currently busy with other things on top of being slightly burnt out of Stellaris modding.

any plans to chanmge this to the new system? I figure you can just do a swap of the normal psi traditions like they have for bio and cyborg to ease up on the workload

Thanks for the explanation xD and the patch!

@democles_pl Okay, so that was it then! If you're interested in the explanation, it's because the game can't tell whether or not you have a free tradition slot left. Instead, it just checks how many trees you have adopted so far and as long as it's less than 7 (the maxium amount you can have in vanilla), it will let you pick the ascension perk. I don't know why the devs did it this way, I guess it works fine in vanilla, but you will clearly start running into some problems if you have modded tradition slots. Turns out I accidentally copy+pasted this requirement over when I was updating the mod even though the hive mind version of the perk has no tradition tree. I have since patched this.

Yeah I am and I thought that might have *somehow* have affected it? even though it doesn't require them and there are still slots?
I don't get why or how it would even register what is taken up in this case

@democles_pl I may have found the problem. Are you playing with mods that allow you to adopt more traditions than normal? Specifically, have you adopted more than 7 traditions?

(I since grabbed engineered evo as I couldn't pick up psionic)

Yup it's very odd https://imgur.com/a/0y4PexW

democles_pl Wait what? It's two ascension perks, it shouldn't need traditions at all. Are you looking at the right ascension perk? It's called Hive Mind Over Matter, it's a new one because the vanilla one is for regular empires.

Hmmm I'm getting an issue where it says 'requires empty tradition tree/slot' but I have many many free.

@democles_pl Yes

Quick Q:
You said it uses the 'old system' does that mean it's just 2 perks no tradition tree?
And does it still negate the ability to grab the genetic ascension then?

based mod, only disappointing feature was that it doesn't seem like the hivemind version of the telepathy research counts for getting the fancy gigastructure-specific psionic research leading to the shroud siphon building (which, granted, is perfectly fine considering hiveminds are already relatively stronger than most other empire types)

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