Sadly the mod seems to be crashing at loading

@Erawolf

They are effectively different games.

M&T 3 is to M&T 2 as M&T 2 is to Vanilla EU4.

That is to say, M&T 3 is a much deeper economic simulator at the cost of being more opaque.

They are both enjoyable, Go watch some Count Cristo videos if you want an introduction to M&T 3.

what's the difference between this and version 3?

The game becomes unplayable mid-late game as for no reason, if you have a global empire, rebels start spawning and the keep spawning non stop. It's not a threat to you. It's just extremely annoying and makes me quit. Can you please replace tiny rebels with some kind of province malus?

what is new for this version and why updating this?

This iteration of MEIOU and Taxes has just received an update, but it's still for the EU4 v.1.29.6

1. Go to Steam library, right click Europa Universalis 4

2. Click Property (at the bottom)

3. Click the BETAS tab

There's an additional hurdle if you want to access a patch older than 1.27 but if you just want to play this mod, no need.

Hopefully Gigau sees the desire for this to be kept up to date

i literally refuse to play 3, the UI is horrible, pls update this version to 1.37

i would love the developers to keep going with this version as well as 3.0, i really dont enjoy 3.0 even half as much.

@HHFD50 this is literally a vanilla eu4 graphic setting, IIRC set particles to "no"

Is there a way of turning off the constant smoke coming from EVERY city on the map??? Only cities under siege should show smoke. Please it ruins the game imo,

Is it possble to reintroduce the at peace requirements for nation formation into the mission trees that tag switch nations into others because it seems to break wars such as restoration of union as i just found out by not being able to enforce the union on castile because it suddenly became spain midwar?

There is now a 2.6 pre-release channel on the official M&T discord: https://discord.gg/eAjUNjXRe9

OK makes sense, thanks for the info. Wish I hadn't started a campaign and then had steam auto update it when I was at 1550, but I'll just make a new one with the knowledge policies don't exist. Had been concerned some other mod had randomly enabled somehow that I couldn't see.

Policies were substituted with (nerfed) base country values, those yearly centralization and stab cost modifiers still exist, you just don't need to pick the same three policies at the start of every game. Regarding old saves, assume they are not compatible. While I haven't specifically tested them, it's always a good idea to start a new campaign after an update. Though if those "certain events" are related to interactions with estates, there's a decision to fix them (happens if you console tag switch to a country previously controlled by an AI). The decision is called "Tag switch fix", but if you don't see it then it's not the cause.

Yesterday's update broke my game and old saves. Policies don't exist and certain events are happening too quickly, and while the latter might be just me misremembering the mod, the policies are definitely borked. I am running zero other mods alongside.

By Far the best Eu 4 mod on the workshop.

update it bro

@💖⎛⎝Silver Knight⎠⎞ gigau is at tinto making eu5

2.6 won't be updated to the newest eu4 version, but there will still be a couple of maintenance updates fixing bugs and things like that. Updating v2 to 1.35 is too much work for me, and it involves dealing with UI which I can't/won't do.

Gigau disappeared sadly

i think my biggest issue with meiou 2.6 rn is that it uns on eu 4 version 1.29.6 wich has a bug that the ai takes too much ae and gets huge coalitions making allying them pretty annoying.

this version of meiou an taxes was the best it has been, hopefully you will update it some day

Sadly I have to agree. I keep having to revert patch when I want to play MEIOU because 3.0 is a horrible mod. Its impossible to understand, uninteractive, unfun. I guess its fun as an observer mode experiment but certainly not fun to play. Instead of enhancing what they built on 2.0 they removed it all and tried to build a new game that was superior to victoria 3 but with a 10 year old game and IU. Terrible experiment. I hope they reverse shit although I suspect not given how EU5 is around the cornern. I just hope they dont make the same mistake in EU5 and the mod in EU5 is more like Meiou 2.6 andnot 3.0.

3.0 is far worse than 2.6 in almost every aspect. Less realistic, less challenging, less fun, less historical, less immersive. Not to mention terrible interface and absence of good submods (Like HIM).
2.6 with Historical Immersion mod still rules. Shame this mod not getting any updates.

whats with china being its own mini hre instead of all yuan ruled?

agreed. the UI for 3.0 is just too janky owing to the limitations of eu4

3.0 is too complicated for me, its no so much the complexity as it is the UI and everything being done via events i just cant handle it.

Hopefully an update soon

That's because I removed them

Flags over the provinces are not visible. I know it's a very minor thing but it annoys me

Is this version of the mod going to be updated, now that 3.0. is out?
Don't get me wrong, I can see that mod developers really put an incerdible ton of work into 3.0., and I appreciate that. But the new economic system in 3.0. just isn't enjoyable to me. But there were many other changes related to other stuff like culture conversion that I liked, is there any chance we will see some improvements to this version of the mod as well? Or is it going to just stay as 2.60. forever? :(

I had 3.0 installed but downgraded to this one in order to use a sudmod. It crashes immediately. It seems to be a problem when downgrading versions. Should I still delete the files from the Paradox folder?

@MERCINOSO Looks like it's hardcoded. You need "a neighbor having embraced some institution, with an adjacent core province" to reform, and said neighor would most likely be a colonial nation, which is a republic. So you end up reforming into a republic yourself.

Inti religion reform seems to be broken - I formed the Inca Empire, I painfully implemented all five reforms, and when I hit "reform religion" button, my country changes to a republic! Is there any way to fix this?

@Rosth - Thanks so much! Your suggestion worked and I no longer crash when starting the game. Excited to get back into this mod.

No

any plans making it compatible with the newest version?

@midoriya93 Florence, Venice, any major nation like England.

Is this better than Beyond Typus?

Thank you for this mode, I love it so far and it seems to work fine for me. Any recommendation for nations to play for interesting events?

Both of you, try going to Documents/Paradox Interactive/Europa Universalis IV and deleting everything from that folder except for "mod" and "save games" subfolders. Make a backup first though. Something about downgrading EU4 to 1.29.6 from the latest versions seems to be causing a crash, at least as far as I can tell.

Same here as @Ozymandias, crashing immediately on selecting a country and starting the game. This includes attempting on a fresh install (of the mod and base game), running 1.29.6. Anyone else experience this and have a fix that works for them? Are there log files I can look through?

crash on start up, reinstall mod and and validateing eu4 file doesnt help.

The send runners button was disabled as it was bugged. Also it never improved CE, only let you update it faster.

i cant use runners anymore to improve communication levels

The spanish provinces are missing the different cortes modifiers

@Frank
This is 2.60.2, aka the most up-to-date version

where i can find meiou 2.61 or 2.62?

@BOT GuantaX see link below