boa noite gostaria de saber se consegue colocar esse mod junto loot plus e um pra autar a difilculdade do jogo eo numero de monstros obrigado otimo mod

could u update this mod，pls？

i have no depper knowledge of chinese mythology and phylosophy but nontheless some ideas for the naidan mastery:

we already have with the potion related skills an alchemy focus that seems to be fine. as far as i know harmony is also very important and we have 5 attributes that correspond roughly with the harmony aspect and the 5 elements in chinese culture ( wood, fire, earth, metal, water ) so maybe for each point spend in the mastery +1str +1dex +1int +10health +10energy.

i think it would be very fitting if the mastery is a true support class similiar to nature but more related to that harmony aspect


no idea if that helps but at least i tried xD

Is that the only problem or has something else gotten broken too? I mean, for me - a habitual Itemus, if that's the only problem, it won't be a problem at all.

@Gorwe
The main issue is related to the new "hardcore" dungeons and the related keys. It regularly happens that certain bosses drops a boatload of those keys and not much else, most commonly encountered with Egypt's Telkine.
Now this may seem like a small issue at first – and technically, it is – but it leads to a rather serious problem: Titan Quest is in general very honest when it comes to modding, you modify a value and the result changes accordingly. These keys however do not . This leads me to the assumption that the (current) devs have tampered with the established loot system, making it impossible to predict or control.

L+ works? What are those issues?

@Gorwe
Technically, no. But that only means that any more recent changes made by the devs regarding classes are overwritten by my changes. The way TQ mods work, you don't have to update anything as long as the relevant files aren't affected.
Even LootPlus still works very well with the current version, save for some issues that are beyond my capabilities to fix.

A stupid question, but is the mod updated for the latest version of TQ?

Another note: the concept of Ned is very interesting to me. What it actually brings, not so much. In this aspect, it reminds me highly of Polymorph in Divinity: OS 2. But god dam, using Internal Alchemy sounds so cool!

Just to clarify: I don't have anything against this as well. My characters span a wide gamut of what they are supposed to be. Greek, Egyptian, Norse, Germanic, Babylon and more. It was just an observation how things changed. Iron Lore masteries are universal and completely "culture free". Then comes Nordic and masteries we get are very specific all of a sudden? Don't know how Rune would be called back then, but Ned can simply be called "Philosophy" or "Alchemy".

Exe: Thank you for all the hard work. I would just be interested in a changelog. For now.

@Yámao
Just to clarify, I myself have no problem with the mythological background of the Neidan. Without introducing anything new to the game (like a damage type for example), the Neidan doesn't present much that isn't already occupied by other classes, and I couldn't find any synergies that made me interested in playing one.
I tried a lot of approaches to "fix" the Neidan, with some very promising skill swaps. But in the end, it still felt like it borrows from everywhere, with no real direction for itself.

@Gorwe
As said, Plage has received a major update. Nature's heal tree as well, mainly making it more cost effective. Deathchill Aura does life leech instead of percental health damage, and so on. If I get to updating the mod I will include a change log, of course.
I won't include the Neidan (except for improved Health and Mana), but I suppose I will leave some things I tried in a subfolder inside the arz-file in case anyone is interested to check it out.

Exactly the mod I was looking for.
And for the the comment below: Neidian is literally a Chinese word, part of Taoism. It'd be wrong if it's anything Greek, same for Rune, which is explicitly Norse. Titan Quest incorporates three main mythological themes from around the world: Greek, Nord and Chinese (Like in Age of Mythology, with its titans from different civilizations) and you'd be free to make a multi culture character, but no need to go there and Hellenize everything that's not Greek.

Besides Neidian feels kinda wrong. Its skills have some potential, but they are too Chinese. How am I supposed to create a standard greek-ish character with Ned lol?

Tbh, this already started with Rune(=too Norse), but Rune is a far better skill tree, so nobody noticed? I certainly didn't.

Yes, release what you have. Make others even greater. Neidian ... oh well.

What have you updated interim?

@Gorwe
Sure thing, go right ahead. As mentioned below, I was working on an update, but I really can't find a niche for the Neidan to fill. I guess I should release what I already have for the other classes (spoiler: Plague is really great now) and just leave the Neidan in its sorry vanilla state for now.

Hey, ExE? Is it ok to combine your mod with other mods? After fixing the gameplay part with your great mod, it would seem that there IS a Transmog mod(being worked on).

What do you say?

oh.. then gl on your modding elsewhere! i hope you can have a good time, even in life!

@sebas.babou
I regret to inform you that my TQ modding is currently on hold indefinitely. I had been working on an update for the mod, including the Neidan, but stopped in a late but unfisnished state.
I can't say when (or if) I will continue my work, so all I could possibly offer right now is that unfinished version that may or may not be broken (probably Shen Pao if I recall correctly).

hey, can you update it for EE/Neidan as well plz?

Hi I can't seem to access the Mod characters in TQvault.

I wish Batter for Defense could go higher than 3 targets, can you change it? Maybe 6-7

this is really great, only the problem i encountered is the Guardian Stones is not summoning instantly.. i need to hold the hotkey to summon it

don't be sorry, you're all good. just trying to work out which mod to use when with friends.

@Coffee Lord Casper
The Loot Plus version of this is outdated, sorry.

I just realised - skillreworkslp (Skill Reworks and Loot Plus) the loot plus part doesn't work, only get 3 potions.
was this accidental, have i missed something. did i mess up/

@ミメミ you're all good, take your time, and maybe one day, for now i'll just continue to use this one =] if you ever finish it let me know, otherwise happy easter or day off or whatever holiday this is for you if you even get a holiday.

@Coffee Lord Casper
Sadly, no. I was very close to completion but first lost the energy and then the time to really finish the update. I can't say if will be able to finish it in the near future, but I hope I can find the motivation to get back to it eventually.

@ミメミ
did this ever get the update you were looking at doing back in Aug 2022?
still the best mod i've found to be honest.

Mod merger with LootPlus?

Regardless, thanks for replying. You have solved many of my objections with Skill / Build part of TQ, now I only need to wait for Costume / Transmog. If(when) the both get solved, TQ will be a game for the ages, literally.

@Gorwe
Plans for the future are to finally finish the Neidan, release the new update and with that the mod merger. Which should have been a thing of the past by now but sadly, things I need to do are keeping me away from things I want to do. But I hope I can find some breathing room soon.
As for the future after that, probably not much besides adusting and revisiting some things that still could be improved.

@Filianor
Sorry for not replying sooner, I had read it but somehow missed to answer in a timely fashion.

How goes it, what are the plans for the future?

I'd really like to get "lost" with TQ + this mod(as you are aware), but the lack of transmog bothers me. /meh :)

Hey, any update on the upcoming merger I can't wait to try it out!

Thanks for the reply. I look forward to the merger!

@Dadtoucher
1. Skill Reworks is not yet merged with the newer version of LootPlus, as the many updates lately make this a tedious procedure. I will include a new merger once this mod and LootPlus are on solid ground.

2. I'll look into this and see if I can reproduce/fix this, thanks for pointing it out.

Hi. I've been using the skillreworkslp main.map file to play through, and I've had 2 issues.

1. The loot changes don't seem to load at all. I've tested with the chest with the health potions and ever get 3 potions.

2. The skills changes work, but for psionic beam to work properly (i.e. actually channel the staff rather than regular attacks), I have to load the mod as usual, launch my Earth/Dream character, quit to the main menu, then launch the E/D character through "play titan quest" rather than "play custom quest". All the skill changes are preserved and the beam now works. However the loot issues exist irrespective of this wrangling to get psionic beam to work.

Otherwise, really great mod as far as skills are concerned!

Love this mod. Wish it had loot+ and spawn modifiers hehe

@Gorwe
The Shen Pao addon skill for once, as the new "activate on monster death" template is extremely finicky. And I want to turn Weakest Chakra into a direct high-damage (boss killer) spell, but balancing that is actually pretty tough if you don't include weapon damage.
One of the problems is that the Neidan doesn't really have a niche to fill, it's rather random in its abilities and damage types.

Which skills are giving you problems?

Nah, actually...it is still raw? Sorry, but cba. :p

Will look through changes though.

@Gorwe
If you want to take a look at the current state, I put a link to Skill Reworks v1.2 in its current state in my link pastebin: https://pastebin.com/KyhsHRNZ
It's loose files for now, so you'll have to build it first. It also includes a changelog, but the Neidan changes are missing for now. I plan to write an explanation on the class and what was reworked once I'm done.
If you want to discuss anything, let's do so in your old discussion thread.

Great! I didn't have anything to play after (a year of) Wrath of the Righteous, want me to take a look?

@Gorwe
Actually, I'm almost finished reworking the Neidan class (and adding some changes to the others), but some skills still give me a headache. I have switched out a lot, and I think it's really fun to play now, but there's still some points that need polishing.

Any plans for the future?

@ミメミ
Thanks for the help and advice. I will try to do as you wrote, if it does not work out I will turn to those who are making new skills.

@((DANTE))
I'm not really sure if this will work. Usually you have a skill that has a chance to use both weapons at once for extra damage. If you just want the ability to wield a weapon in the off-hand without using it (for the buffs from that weapon for example), you could try to set dualWieldOnly in the Qualifying Weapons category of any skill dbr to 1 and see if that allows you to do that. You may even try to set it to 1 in the mastery dbr, but I have no idea if it works that way.
As I said, someone who has the experience to build a new class from the ground up might be more suited to help you with that problem, though.

@ミメミ
I mean, just make it so that the character can immediately carry two weapons like with the Dual Wield skill, just just the ability to carry a weapon without 12 damage and without double attacks and throws. If you know how to do this, please tell me. I was always surprised that you need to carry two weapons forever, and many classes would change very much and become a little stronger than now, being able to carry, for example, two swords

Sorry, I somehow didn't get notified of new comments here.

@((DANTE))
You mean adding a completely new skill beside the existing ones? I'm sure that's entirely possible, but I think people who did actual mastery mods are more suited to help you in that regard.

@-AOD- Bruce Campbell
It seems to be compatible without problems, though it doesn't alter the new mastery in any way, of course.

This compatible with the latest TQ version and DLC?

@ミメミ
Hey! I think you already know all the files by heart, could you tell me? is it possible to build a skill into a character? and how to do it (when creating, the skill was already with it without swinging it)

@Vexille
Thanks