I am about to a get physical copy for me and my family to play on christmas day, because this game looks like a bit of fun.

Will you do a betrayal third edition? :)

THE GUY BELOW ME A LITTLE rEE rEE

this game hard

Disregard my previous comment, I'm blind. tho to be fair it was a tiny bag.

So where's the haunt chart? do I have to look it up online? It's not in the booklet in you mod.

@Fat-Spiderman I don't particularly need scans right now, but thanks for the offer. Sorry if I misunderstood something. But, if there's anything I could do to help you, just lemme know, and I'll see what I can do.

And yeah, I looked into making a card deck before too, it seems pretty complicated lol.

Indeed! I had done some searching myself prior, to little avail. Ironically I figured I'd give it another shake and found these ones aswell! Earlier I was offering sending you scans of my physical stuff, not so much in making assets. I only just recently learned one way to make cards xD, no clue about anything else just yet. Thank you for the effort nonetheless! Now, just to gather the people 'round their screens!

@Fat-Spiderman Also, I searched in the Steam workshop for the games you mentioned, and I found some that seem decently popular. I recommend checking them out, and seeing if they are what you are looking for.

I have never played these versions, and I've never played Pandemic, so I can't speak on if all the pieces are there or if it includes everything you need (I assume the setups have everything). I have played Betrayal in real life before, so I know what a setup would need and how things would need to be placed.

Betrayal at Baldur's Gate: Workshop Link

Betrayal Legacy: Workshop Link

Pandemic Legacy - Season 1: Workshop Link

Pandemic Legacy - Season 2: Workshop Link

@Fat-Spiderman Ah, I see. I actually have played Risk Legacy, so I'm familiar with the permanent board-changing stuff and fulfilling certain conditions. I didn't know they made other games with the "Legacy" gameplay style.

As for making a new setup for those games, or making scans, I'd say try finding other setups and existing assets first. And technically anyone can use assets and scans in setups in the workshop for their own setups (my setup here for Betrayal is literally a merging of others' workshop assets, and then I organized, improved, and fixed a lot of things for the better, in my opinion, of course). So, anyone could use the following setups, and copy/paste them into their own to try to make it better.

And if you were wanting to have multiple saves for a game, like Legacy games, remember you can always save a state of a game in Tabletop Sim.

As for the D&D Version, it became my friends' favorite at the shop. It's called (seems I got my locations mixed up again lol) Betrayal at Baldur's Gate. It's virtually identical in play except for haunts (obviously), characters get a thematic power like Wizard's Arcane Missile and Cleric's Healing Channel, and that the board is 2 floors but still split between 3 areas: Sewers, Streets, and Buildings. The characters are still dual faced and with like-classes. Wiz&Sorc, Pal&Cler, Dru&Ranger, Fighter&Barb, and I believe Bard&Warlock and Monk&Rogue but it's been awhile since they've moved into playing Digimon TCG the past few months.

I could certainly scan Baldur's Gate if you'd like. I'm on the fence about tearing open Legacy however. If you're down and we can't find anyone else willing to scan I would; my friends that showed interest in Legacy were all international, go figure lol.

In Pandemic (the only one I've actually played a legacy of) it seemed to take the form of special outbreak rules and even additional scientist powers.The issue I've found is that this also inherently means you generally can't play a 'save state' or normal game until their campaigns are finished. Additionally that if you want to play a campaign again to see it likely play out differently, you effectively have to buy a whole new box to reset the boards/cards/rule sheets. Something I think TTS gets the advantage to! xD

absolutely, I only recently found the Legacy version myself. The way they have it set up is that Legacy 'takes place before' a standard game, as once you complete a campaign the game rules are *mostly* the same. If you're familiar with other legacy versions (Risk Legacy, Pandemic Legacy, etc.) of games, this is much the same comparatively. If you aren't, the idea is that previous runs' events, successes, and failures will have a mechanical effect on future games by means of permanent stickers, extra rules, etc.

@Fat-Spiderman I have actually never heard of "Legacy" or "the D&D Waterdeep version." I'm basically unaware of new Tabletop Sim stuff or new popular tabletop games.

As a side note, my tabletop sim workshop items came about mostly because I wanted to make/enhance that game/setup to play with my friends. So, in a way, they're all personal passion projects.

So, I for sure am not against making other Tabletop Sim workshop setups, but it'd probably need to be something of a personal passion quest. And if the game doesn't exist in the workshop yet, then it's basically a 0% chance I would go buy the game and scan in everything just to make a setup for it (I'm not a tabletop game collector/enthusiast).

I hope that made sense, and that it was clear I am speaking inoffensively. I do enjoy playing any game with friends, D&D included lol.

or thinking about it, the D&D Waterdeep version?

fair enough lol, were you by chance also looking into getting a tts version of Legacy?

@Fat-Spiderman It's all manual. Unfortunately, I don't know how to script or code lol. I would script it if I could.

I was just curious if this was scripted at all or completely manual?

@its_misslyly I'm glad you like this setup! Have fun playing :)

What a lovely mod. We just learned this at a gaming cafe, and it was so confusing and some pieces were missing. You have done such an amazing job, and everything is so clean and convenient. Excited to play properly. Thank you so much!

@Andras You're welcome! I'm glad you are enjoying this setup.

Allright thank you for the quick help and for this fantastic Betrayal Tabletop version! ^^ Finally i can play with this with my friends at this hard Pandemic time... Thank you again and excelent job!

@Andras The character tiles are locked in place. Hover over them, and press "L" on the keyboard to unlock them. You can do this with any object to Lock/Unlock them in place.

Related to this, I also recommend locking the room tiles in place once you place them.

Hello! How can i flip the characters tiles? :) Im trying with the "F" but unfurtunatelly didnt working. :S

@Osmiqa Thank you very much! I'm glad you are enjoying it :)

@Stenaven This is amazing. The only one I found that has everything with great quality. Thank you so much for this. You Are Awesome

@hotdaniel Sorry, but I made this setup is for people who want the option for both.

For your situation, I recommend using this setup, then preparing it for WW, and then creating a custom save for it in your save-games folder in Tabletop Sim. Then you can load it from that state whenever you want.

THIS LINK [kb.tabletopsimulator.com] can help you if you don't know how to save:
https://kb.tabletopsimulator.com/getting-started/games-save-load/

If that isn't your thing, there are other setups made by other people you can check out.

@Stenaven, please just add everything available from the start. It is a pain to get this set up for the WW expansion because of all the content you have to pull out of side-bags.

(?) Are there any major differences between the room tiles at default on the table, and the default+WW tiles in the WW's "Components" bag?

I know that they look different (the tiles on the table have less contrast, while the tiles in the WW bags are darker/have more contrast) but I don't remember the exact reason why I kept both sets.

(?) And: If there are no major differences, would you like an update to the setup to remove the redundancy of having 2 sets of base-game room tiles?

I will wait a few days (or longer) to read any comments. If no one comments, I'll just delete this comment, and nothing will come of this.

@stufff I'm glad you like it!

This is a really great setup, thank you

@Flycatcher [2 of 2] I don't know how this setup is exactly different from others, or if I can even compete with a fully-scripted version, but I made this setup in a way that makes me happy. So I'm happy with it, and I'm happy if other's like it too.

I don't get anything from making this, other than the satisfaction and happiness of knowing people also like and use my setup.

And the same stuff basically applies to my other tabletop sim workshop stuff. I make stuff for myself that I couldn't find, or I try to improve on something. Messing around and making setups is like, as if I was playing Minecraft or Legos or something, I enjoy making stuff.

Sorry if that was a lot to read, I wanted to explain the setup and myself a decent amount lol. I hope you try out and enjoy my setup, but of course, use whatever setup that suits your style and needs.

@Flycatcher [1 of 2] The main difference is I kept the Widows Walk expansion pack separated from the game, and make it easy to add into the game. This is so people can choose to play with or without the expansion.

I also did a few minor things. I resized pieces and tiles to make them a little easier to use. Like I made the character tiles a little bigger and the little rings for the numbers. I also tried to organize things well on the table and in bags. I also try to listen to the comments for any suggestions, one being to make the room tiles bigger. I also added the mouse-hover tooltips.

I suppose you could say that I made "Quality of Life" changes. I have played on one other setup before, and I noted some things I could make better for myself. So I made my own setup how I would like it, and shared it, so that anyone who also likes it this way can use it.

Hey @Stenaven, first of all thanks for the work! I'm trying to decide which version of this game to download from the workshop, would you mind explaining what's different about yours that one would prefer? You say "more improvements are added compared to the other workshop setups" but I'd like some deets if possible. TL;DR Why should one pick this over the fully scripted version or the higher rated version uploaded in 2015 which also still receives constant updates?

@Salmon Squire I don't exactly know what that file is, and when I load the game, it isn't missing for me, and I'm sure it isn't missing for others, because you are the first to mention it.

It most likely has to do with something on your end, I don't think there's anything I could do. I suggest maybe completely removing or uninstalling this setup from Tabletop Sim, and try to resubscribe to this setup. If that doesn't work, you could try uninstalling and reinstalling Tabletop Sim. But if this is all from a file on Dropbox that is missing for you, I honestly don't think that would help.

So, TLDR; I don't think I can help you, I'm sorry. That file is not a part of my Dropbox or uploads, so I don't even know what that file is being used for.

There is a file missing I was hoping could have a refresh or redirect (or even rename if that's issue). apparently it was hosted on dropbox?
fanitems[36].jpeg is the file in question

@Serlop You're welcome! I'm glad you're enjoying the setup!

@Stenaven, now I get it! Thanks, I was able to see the haunt now. Great mod, thank you so much!

@Merlin What exactly do you mean by "haunt menus"? Do you mean like the Secret's of Survival Book or the Traitor's Tome? Telling me the specific object will help me understand.

So, generally, all images, textures, objects, etc. of Workshop setups are stored on the Steam Cloud, which is Steam's version of like Google Drive or One Drive or iCloud. If something isn't loading properly for you, it might have to do with Steam's Cloud servers, your Internet Service Provider, or something blocking it, like a firewall. Everything works for me and I can see all textures and images, and I'm sure most people who use this are also fine.

You would have to diagnose the situation yourself, I do not think I can help much with this, since for me, everything is properly uploaded to Steam Cloud and everything works and loads fine.

@Serlop
So, to reiterate, to use the Traitor's Tome;
(1) Pull it out of the black bag,
(2) On the Tome, Right-Click > State and choose the Haunt number as the State number,
(3) Put it into the person's hand,
(4) Flip the tomb over using "F" to reveal the information on the other side,
(5) Remember, you can use "ALT" to view the Tome (and other objects) zoomed up in your HUD

@Serlop If I am understanding correctly, you are having trouble figuring out how to use the Traitor's Tome in the black bag, correct?

When you pull out the Tome, it will be an object like the Rule Book or the Secrets of Survival Book. The back of the "card" will show a number, and that is the Haunt number. The other side of the "card" will show all the details of the Haunt.

To change the Haunt, you Right-Click > State and choose the state-number that corresponds to the Haunt number. For example, state 25 is Haunt 25. When it is in someone's hand, it'll be like a card, and no one else can read it except the hand's owner.

hey Stenaven,
I have a problem with opening the haunt menus. It says that the images wont load, may you help?
thanks in advance

I don't know what I'm missing, but I could see the Traitor's Tome booklet. I know it was supposed to be inside the black bag, but when I took it out it was not a booklet but only cards with the numbers of the haunts and no info. Hope somebody helps me understand.

Looks great, thank you! <3

@jewelshadow I have now added tooltip information to all the room tiles, detailed information about it can be seen in the change notes.

I was referring to the room tiles. If it's too difficult it's not the end of the world, but it would make it easier to play with people who are less familiar with tabletop sim :)

@SirAce Thanks, I'm glad you like it!

Played this the other day--fantastic job! Keep up the good work!

@An00bis I'm glad you enjoy this setup! The character pentagons are locked in place. You can unlock them by hovering over them and pressing "L" or doing Right-Click > Toggles > Lock. The Notepad on the bottom right also has some extra tips for using the setup.

@jewelshadow Do you mean for the room tiles? And/or character tiles? I could technically add the hover tooltips to many things. If it helps, holding "ALT" while hovering over something will show you any piece/tile/card/etc. zoomed in to make things easier to read. Adding tooltips for everything would take a decent amount of time. Would you still like me to add tooltips?

Loving this! I do think it would be nice to have text when you hover over the tiles, or have an option for it. :)