I went to the console and removed myself from the College of Winterhold Archamage faction(don't know if I was part of it, i dont think that was the problem) and then changed rank in College of Winterhold faction from Archmage (i think) to Wizard (i recon i´m no longer a student).
This made everyone stop calling me Archmage (and Nirya starts talking about "a change in leadership" again).
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when does tolfdir go in the room with the eye of magnus I can not go any further in the college of winterhold quest as tolfdir is never in the room so I can talk to him abou the next step?

How about making a mod that allow us to offer Tolfdir the position of second in command,like a vice president, to run the college, if we as archmage, are off questing, on official businesses ect. He certainly deserves that much if not the archmage position.

Oh, I came back here to ask the same thing twice. Sorry. Didn't realize i had already done so

We need other mods for the Thieves Guild and Companions. Please and Thank you for the must!!!!!

Could you do one that allows any follower to be archmage, now that would be cool!

Wow, I felt it was a humbling experience to recieve it in light of the in-game story, but I do like this.

You need one where Feralda can be Archmage or Master Wizard instead of Tolfidir. Guessing that would mean she heads aftershock quests or something.

Many of the college's members still refer to the player as Arch-Mage, it's kind of immersion breaking.

jzargo needs the title.
J'zargo for archmage 2014

"I didn't feel like I deserved the title of Archmage"
True... but i think they want you as arch mage since your a F***ing Dragonborn lol

@leazer425 , is it possible to make another version of this but instead have Mirabelle become the Arch-Mage? she is the 2nd in command after all.

:O didnt even know. i think i might just have to click the nice gree button near the top of this page now

@GlacialFlow: Haha, that's exactly what already happens. They're called the Master Wizard's Robes.

hmm i realy like the idea behind this mod, but the effects of the robes are too enticing. if you could make some new robe (meybe "tolfdir's Robe) and have tolfdir give them to you after you choose him, and have them have the same effects as archmage robes. then i would totally be behind this mod.

thankyou

@outlawpsizzle: You can try the steps outlined above, starting where it says "NOTE:" It's not guaranteed to work but some users have reported success. But other than that, no, the mod was designed to offer you the choice at the end of the questline. If you've finished the questline, there's no "official" way to make Tolfdir the archmage.

I already completed every quest for the mages guild. Can I still make him archmage afte rit is all done?

Not gonna download this mod, but I totally agree that it should have been Tolfdir that became the Archmage and not someone who happens to be at the right spot at the right time.
Unfortunately it is the same with all the other guilds too, I had hoped there would be a choice.

I never could be the Archmage. I never felt like it. It wasn't...deserved. And I think Tolfdir deserved it much more. This mod is just perfect.

Thanks for making this. My character was an assassin, not a mage, but I wanted to DO ALL THE THINGS. Being the arch-mage was awkward. Thanks for providing this fix!

@ladysedim: The mod will work fine without the sound files, Tolfdir just won't say anything when you tell him you think he should be the Archmage (though even with the sound files, he doesn't say much anyway, so you're not really missing anything.) As far as the Nexus goes, unless they've changed things within the last few months, the site is free to use. You just need to sign up (for free) and login to download some larger files. I doubt you'd even need to do that for these sound files. I think you have the option to donate and become a premium user, which I guess unlocks other features of the site. Maybe that's what you were thinking of. But anyway, the Nexus, as far as I know, doesn't require any kind of payment to use.

Will this run without the sound files I really don't care about voice I just dont wan't to be "archmage" if I do that questline I love the idea you have here but I dont have the ability to download extra files from a seperate paid-subscription site like nexus.

You probably didn't feel you deserved to be Archmage because the questline is far too short. P.S. Im looking for someone who will be willing to make a mod that expands the Winterhold College Grounds. Far too small for a College right? SPREAD THE WORD!

Good idea, but too late for me.

Erm,update. I completed the quest, got Tolfdir to take up the position, and he's sleeping in the Archmage's quarters right now... But the others are still calling ME archmage. And I'm raiding his quarters for alchemical ingredients. :D

Awesome. My Warrior Bard doesn't really suit the Archmage position. She got into the college by demonstrating her shouts, and does hardly any spells. I haven't completed the quest yet, so here's hoping she can duck- erm, pass on the responsiblity. :D

I haven't actually gotten to the point to where this mod comes into play, but I have a suggestion to either add onto this mod, or for a new mod. The Arch Mage's assistant is the one REALLY...........running the show, (Mirabele Ervin?) so why not cut her a break and give her the chance to be Arch Mage as well as Tolfdir, after all she already is, just without the title and credit. Give a girl a break, she deserves one!

ahh...and all of bellow won't make him sleep in the archmage bed
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those commands will solve that but player can still sleep in it, it's displayed as owned but not in red

With setstage 5 Tofdir seems to get his package but robe is not automaticaly given to him...removeitem/equipitem would work on him as you say.
Others still greet you with Arch-Mage unless you undo this: Game.GetPlayer().SetFactionRank(CollegeFaction, 6 ) Didn't searched what it should have been but setting the rank to 5 solves the greeting problem, if it was lower that would still be OK, I suggest you simply add Game.GetPlayer().SetFactionRank(CollegeFaction, 5 ) to that stage 5 script to help people who finished the quest.
Or you people I think it ok to use the console command player.addtofaction 0001f259 5
if that command is good to change the rank if you are already in faction, otherwhise set to -1 first.
That faction code is for CollegeofWinterholdFaction but there's also a CollegeofWinterholdArchMageFaction (00103372) but to me it seems that's not played with in the process.

Everyone still refers to me as Arch-mage......I don't really like that....

This is an awesome mod! I love how you also didn't leave the Dovahkiin out and made him the Master Wizard!!! Rated up!
But I agree with Commando 2047, his hair does clip heavily! Give him a hoodless version!

I would suggest giving him hoodless Archmage robes, his hair clips heavily throught hood.

Thanks! Hope this works out well! This sort of thing seems absolutely essential for purposes of realism. The option, that is, the simple choice to say "no thanks"...not only did I not feel entitled to some of the various honors bestowed upon me throughout the game, I frankly found some of them to be an imposition.

In any case, fantastic idea. If you are able to create a variant of this for some of the other questlines/factions (the companions one specifically seems to irk me, especially since they still treat you like an errandboy after), that would be fantastic. It's nice to be able to get these titles if you want them, but having each one handed to me (forcefully) starts to hurt the roleplaying aspect and the immersion aspect pretty quickly...plus it quickly begins to feel like Bethesda is pandering to the (perceived by them) inferiority complexes of their fans by granting them some kind of wish fullfillment overdose.

good mod, in real life he would be the archmage, and brynjolf would be the thieve master, and the little vampire chick would be the head of the dark brotherhood........just some thoughts. well done

A godsend mod for sure. For those who complain about leadership role with everything, remember that skyrim isn't nessisarily designed for you to have acomplished everything with one character. I personally have 3 and perhaps 4th who take very different routes in the game world. They join different factions, do different deeds, and make different choices.

That said I do apreciate a mod like this for winterhold. There are enough different schools of magic that most builds would take on at least one or two. Unfortunatly winterhold is the only place in Skyrim that teaches these skills. (At least in a roleplaying cannon sense.) So it's a godsend to be able to "major" in a particular guild, but have still saved and learned from the college.

P.S. One of my characters is tied to being the arch mage. The other simply goes there to master her illusionary magic. Thus is makes role-playing sense that afterwards.

I was looking for this all over the nexus! Glad I finally found it.

@infunctionx sounds like any other modern day leader dude...

Is it particularly difficult to add a dialogue option for him that appears after the questline is completed and will activate his new AI package? Or is something in the quest scripting getting in the way?

HIM arch-mage!
the crazy old coot keeps on losing shit!
rediant stupidity!

@ShadowXII: Can you please be a little more specific on that "little manipulation" that "got the console command to work." I failed to make it work no matter how i try, sadly. Thank you in advance.

Okay after a little manipulation, I got the console command to work. My journal doesn't say I've become the Archmage, Tolfy is wearing the robes and chilling in the Archmage's quarters, and that suits me just fine.
He sometimes unquips the robe and walks around naked, but you know what?
If he's a senile enough old fuck to assign a drifter to the position of 'Arch-Mage of Winterhold' and indeed all of Skyrim after three dungeon crawls and half a day of questing, that befits his character perfectly.
I'm not even a Mage. I'm a thief/archer. I know maybe six spells, and only had to cast two through the entire questline.

Oh, and the console command didn't work for me either. He still refers to me as 'Archmage'.

Might I recommend an addition to this mod, or another, where at some point after you finish the quest, you can go talk to him and say "I don't want to be the Arch-mage anymore.", at which point Tolfdir picks up the title and engages the AI package.

This would be an excellent fix for people who've already completed the quest upon finding this mod, me especially.

This constant being the ultimate hero thing really, really bugs me in Skyrim, to the point of ruining the immersion and making it less fun. Thieves Guild, Companions, Winterhold College, Dark Brotherhood. I might as well be High King; I run everything else in the nation.

I wouldn't want the bumbling old Tolfdir in that position either....O_O though i'd agree on the part it seemed kind of short one second your an apprentice and then suddenly archmage...are they that hard up....that they put the dumbling old guy and the newly ex apprentice into those two offices....oh wait skyrim mage guild yep....

GJ, I always hated the concept of one man who was the Dragonborn, totally eliminated Skyrim's bandit population, was the Archmage of the college, Harbinger of the Companions, the leader of the Thieve's Guild and the Dark Brotherhood simultaneously. Seems just a wee bit unrealistic.

Retirement is a good compromise to activating it after you've already become archmage. Good mod overall.

I like the idea of retirement that Scanner proposed, though it would be fine to keep the arch-mage voice files in there (It's polite to refer to someone by the highest rank they've ever held, rather than the one they currently have). It would be neat to be able to choose your successor as someone other than Tolfdir, as well, but for now this is more than acceptable. Good idea, Leazer.

I would suggest finding a method of allowing it to work with a save game after completion a priority. I don't plan on replaying a mage character anytime soon, but this may be the thing that convinces me to go back for a while.

@scanner1: I thought about doing something like this. I might do something similar in the future.

@alexanid: The mod isn't designed to be activated through the console. It is designed to be activated through a dialogue option at the end of the College of WInterhold questline. If you have already finished the questline, it's not supposed to do anything. Someone asked if they could activate it after they have finished the questline, and I made the suggestion to try activating through the console because I have had users say that has worked.

setstage dialoguewinterholdcollege 5 causes no result for me... If i have to make all the way to Winterhold just to assume that the mod does nothing, then to dig into CK searching for proper questid then what is this mod need for? I could just throw away my Archmage's robes and imagine that i told Tolfdir to take my position...
UPD: I can't even restart the quest "The Eye of Magnus".. showquestvars gives me "Stopped" and i can't do anything about it..

I agree, at the end of questline I said "Whaaat? Me? The archmage? I'm a fucking thief!"