thank you very much

@Kerovanka: If you aren't familiar with version control systems, probably the easiest way is to download the zip of the latest version of all my mods:
--- Follow the link to my github repo;
--- Click the big green "Code" button (vaguely top right);
--- Click "Download zip";
--- Expand the zip file;
--- The relevant files for the mod are in ...\arc_emitter_miniaturization\mod_files\ ;
--- Make your changes;
--- Copy the altered mod into your Stellaris mod folder.

(There are some batch files in there that can automate some parts of this process... but they'll probably need some tweaking to work on your system.)

If you're at all interested in any kind of serious software development, including modding, I strongly suggest you learn how to use some kind of version control system. Github is nice because it's cloud-based and free for non-commercial use - although, in general, "git" is not my favourite system. (That'd be SVN; I'm a bit old-school...)

I don't understand how to download this mod from github.com(old version).
please help

does the ai use it too

-System_-Err1r#!, your profile is hidden. Actually, i want to know, how to make critters space cloud weapon work on medium slot, with windup. The cooldown is about zero, when the vanilla one large slot is on 4.40 cooldown.

lol, I've actually made the EXACT same mode for myself (and patched it about 3 or 4 times).
Gosh It was a pain, they changed arc emmiters several times on the way).

And now I know somebody else did that too...

Hah. Haha. Ahahah...

*went suiciding*

Update?

You could replace the "Cost" with something similar to this:

resources = {
category = ship_components
cost = {
alloys = @l_t5_cost
rare_crystals = @l_t5_rare
}
upkeep = {
energy = @l_t5_upkeep_energy
alloys = @l_t5_upkeep_alloys
}
}


that's the same upkeep as a Large Gamma Laser. And for the AI, you could add:

ai_weight = {
weight = 1
modifier = {
factor = 0.0
has_monthly_income = { resource = rare_crystals value <= 0 }
}
}

imagine a pre-2.0 version of this, just an empire using ONLY this weapon set.

true. and such results are expected. because if you compare HP agains Armor+Shield it will be 50%-50%
rng weapons shine the most in a battle against designs that heavily fortify ships with armor\shields. like mentioned Crisis ships(i guess all of them) or most of AE

@Slynx Jewel: I ran some tests:

All battleships have top-level power/drive/etc; 2 DM shield; 2 dragon armour; 2 crystal plating; no aux utils.

Arc/cloud vs Giga-KA-3PC battleship: Giga wins by an absolute mile.
Arc/arc vs Giga-KA-3PC: arc wins, but only just (approx 200/7000 hull remaining)
Arc/arc vs Lance-3KA-NL: Lance wins, but is heavily damaged (approx 2500/7000 hull remaining)
Arc/arc vs Giga-3NL-KA: Giga wins, with heavy damage (approx 1500/7000 hull remaining)

Maybe it's confirmation bias but (a) I don't think cloud lightning is that good and (b) I don't think these arc emitters are outrageously unbalanced.

I did notice that the game gives my arc battleships much higher "military power" than the other designs. But that wasn't really reflected in the test outcomes!

well, maybe it's not "best" against every scenario, but against crisis or AE it shows greatest results. because it lets you to ignore more then 2\3 or enemy defenses.

so during endgame you(IMHO) usually have either Lance-3KA-NL (some prefer Giga-3NL-KA) BB or Ark-4Lighning BB and some Gs corvettes for a mass

Cloud lightning is considered one of the most powerful weapons atm? Really?! I would've thought a nice mix of gauss and plasma would be better. (Approx 1 gauss for every 2 or 3 plasma.) I don't have my references open so it's hard to check - but I thought cloud lightning was really underpowered compared to late-game weapons.

ok. i just were surprised that you implement a weapon almost 2-3 times powerful then one of the most powerful weapons in curent patch. and i found out about your mod only today when you've posted a link on a forums

L-corvettes are horrible. on the level of OPAF. 1-2 fleets killed contigency x1. 5 fleets kileed contigency x5. almost without losses.

Also, covettes with an L slot. Nice :-)

I thought about implementing those, but the S1 mesh has been deprecated...

@Slynx Jewel: Yeah, you're right about cloud lightning. However, it's a creature tech, so it's not guaranteed for the player. I'll update the description accordingly.

(Also, cloud lightning is extremely underpowered compared with other late-game weapons - which is understandable because you can get the cloud lightning weapon within a few decades of the start. IIRC, it's about half the damage per tick of my derived arc emitters. So perhaps it's better to say that there are no competitive late-game hull-only weapons?)

(Also also, the phrase you quoted was written pre-2.0 and I think that cloud lightning became 100% penetrating in 2.0. Still my bad for failing to update though!)

a screen from other mod's discussion to show what i'm talking about:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/403360305163534337/431049996859867146/unknown.png?width=887&height=499

>>but unfortunately there are no similar mechanics in the L weapon class.
ehhhm? what?
lightning(L) are the same as Ark(x) and Disruptors(S,M)

my reaper weapon the s and m and l size all share the same icon and same teck so it would not be hard to do the same thing with this @jonjowett

@war-angel:

Sorry for the late response.

I've been thinking it over, and I have realised that it would be nice to have some kind of arc emitter for my "rapid reponse" corvette fleets. But, it's really not clear how to derive the stats for these.

(I've been using kinetic artillery vs giga cannon as a guide for the L-size arc emitters; but there's no S or M equivalence without doing 2 stages and that's highly dubious.)

How about a reskin of the top-rank disruptors, maybe with a very tiny increase in damage output?

IE - S/M arc emitters unlocked by the existing miniaturization techs; stats for S/M arc emitters are the same as for S/M disruptors (or maybe very slightly larger); art for S/M arc emitters is the same as for L/XL.

Updated for v2.0.2 - Tech costs updated in line with the base game.

jonjowett just saying disruptors dont feel like a full arc tipe ship then

@war-angel: Have you considered using disruptors? They look like fairly effective direct-damage-to-hull weapons for the M & S slots. But if there's a problem with those, please let me know!

so whe have s and m and l arc

make s and m please

Updated & rebalanced for v2.0.

@gopeekay: Yes, it works in 1.9. I haven't tested it extensively, though - I haven't played a full game of Stellaris for a few months now.

does this work in 1.9?

@jonjowett alright, thanks for replying

@[TRG]Gorbian - In general, I'm afraid I don't do mods-of-mods. I just don't have the time to keep everything up to date on an ongoing basis. I think your best bet is to ask the Extra Ship Components authors to add L-size arc emitters to their mods.

Could you possibly add compatability with the Extra Ship Components arc emitters? It'd be much appreciated

Honestly, I don't know. In theory, the components are available to AI empires. However, in practice, I've never encountered an AI empire that chooses to use XL arc emitters on its ships - let alone the L versions from this mod.

My current hypothesis is that they are available to the AI, but the AI will never choose them because it always prefers something else. But I can't think of a way to test this.

(The spiritualist FE is a special case - it can only create pre-scripted ships with XL arc emitters. It doesn't "choose" XL arc emitters, and it will never use the L arc emitters from this mod.)

Does ai use this too ?