I understand you are not going to update and I respect that heavy. Just curious if this works with Special Edition. Because i loved using this mod on my skyrim playthrough in 2013! Cheers guys.

Oh no, I could read it fine haha and yes, it is kinda funny that everyone waits for someone to update their mods before updating thiers xD These mods have really been unsupported for about 2 years now without anything happening to them, and that's one of the main reasons I probably won't bother making sure they work for SSE- outside of I don't really see the point to the SSE either haha

Sry if the Wall of Text is unreadable but 1000 Units are way les than needed
- first world problems :D

Well the mighty modding community never falls asleep ;D
So "Dr. DOOM's DOOM ray... of DOOM" is a lie huh? :D
I also didnt planned on switching to SE soon because the lack of an actuall workshop/mods
And to be honest idc about an relatively improoved basis if all the "upgrades" u can get on the "outdated" basis which bring much more benefits to the game compared to the "improoved" version (in my opninion) arent avaiable on this one
Btw is it just me or does anybody else think that its hilarious that even modders1 wait for modders2 to update their2 mods before they1 start switching to the SSE version of the game before they1 update their1 own mods? X'D
dont take this as a criticism but the amount of comedy in these situations is insane :'D
the "1" and the "2" are for those who dont understand who is waiting for whom and so on
Anyway i think youve done a great job with this mod even tho u may not support it anymore (hope i didnt got u wrong) and i wish you a happy day sir ! :)

Actually shocked I'm still getting comments three years after I released some of my mods- been out of the modding community for a while buuuuuut the "Rank" Destruction perks overwrite each other- each rank is disabled if the next rank is applied(you still get the equivalent bonus through addition). They DO however stack multiplicatively with the Augmented "Element" perk- as stated. It all just ends up being Damage * 2 * 2 with maxed perks. As for wether or not it still works with the Special Edition- I can't say as I haven't started playing it due to the lack of SKSE and mods I'd rather not play without up to this point. That being said- I do not plan on rerelasing or updating any of my mods for the Special Edition, nor am I planning any updates. Last I had checked them- all the mods were working fine(~2 years ago mind you). Cheers!

Do the several "Rank-Destruction" Perks just "overwrite" each other so u only get like 200%(overall multiplicator) damage if u reached the master destruction Perk
or do they work mulitplicative on each other aswell as they do with the augmented perks?
That would mean that its actually: 1*1,25*1,5*1,75*2(*2 Augmented perks)=656,25% Damage...(1312,5% if you count the Augmented perks )

...im not sure whats the case but 400% already is a solid statement and i think it would fit nicely into the Game because the current sparks spell is basically more of a tickling to death...
As if the Imperator would spend some time with his grandson or something like that :'D

But if the "Rank" Perks dont override each other and work mulitplicative instead ...
that would actually reach the power level of "Dr. DOOM's DOOM ray ... of DOOM" X'D

Will this be available for the special edition?

This is a good mod, it doesn't add in spells that I don't want to use and let's me be a supreme mage using daedric/dragonbone armor.

Is this still working or is it patched/broken? And how much different will it be? I don't want the game to be too easy. Right now it's so difficult that I have to use meele... which makes mage really lame.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, this makes magic actually worth using *ode to joy plays*

omg such a simple solution! Now I can actually use destruction on legendary difficulty without having to chug fortify destruction spells every encounter! I am loving your mods so much and they're a decent alternative to perkus maximus as I'm not allowed on the nexus because of my parental controls :)

This simply enhances the perks already present, aside from adding a few more ranks to the <Augmented> Elements part. So this is safe to use with an existing game.

does this mess up perky you allready have

So could you please teach me how to do this?

ehm i think this mod is doing so there's no range for spells like flames and other hold to use spells,
so as far as i know theese spells got unlimted range
vamp drain.
flames
frost
sparks.
and if there's more spells that use this kind of range they now have unlimted range -.-
could you fix this?

I'm completely noob in creation kit, and there so many god freaking damned abbreviations that I do not understand at all, or words I'm completely unfamiliar with... If you would be so kind as to add me to friend list and explain to me step by step move, I'd be thankful lot for you. :P

So the only real different between a scripted effect and a basic perk effect is the script would give you the perk for free, verses the base perk costing a point. Hence why I'd suggest you add it on to a perk that is almost essential, such as Novice Destruction.

You would have to use a script to make this happen without using a perk. Which I don't know a whole lot about in the Creation Kit anymore scripting wise. Using a perk is your best bet. Also, if you -did- use a script, it would probably just add an invisible perk to your character the first time you load it up.

Granted, if you -REALLY- want to see the damage skyrocket based upon your Destruction skill, you could always simply just add 1 point of damage to Fire/Frost/Shock based Destruction Spells for every level you have in the Destruction Skill.
You go through the same steps, but when you get to the part where you would choose Multiply Actor Value Mult, select Add Actor Value Mult instead. Choose Destruction and set the number it's multiplied by to 1 if you want 1 point of damage per skill level, 2 for 2 points, 0.5 for 1 point every 2 skill levels so on and so forth.

is it possible to make without a perk???

"Mainstream" opinion or not, it's all just that- an opinion.
Regardless, to make it scale with level you would set it based on a perk(Novice Destruction is the simplest option); and adjust the damage according to that.
How you would do it is enter into the perk menu, right click to create a new entry in that perk.
Choose Entry Point in the upper bar then Mod Spell Magnitude.
Here's where I might choose the wrong option, but I -want- to say it's Multiply Actor Value Mult. Choose Destruction and set the amount multiplied by to 1.xx to choose the % you want it to go up by.

That is how you would go about making it scale with Destruction Skill.

I was simple point out at you that I disagree that my concept is not balanced and that your statement was wrong, or atleast it's your own purely subjective view on things based on a very mainstream opinion, so I simple provide your argument in order to defend my viewpoint and even prove to you why it's legitimate. I didn't force you to make it, however I was curious if you could make it, OR atleast teach me how to make it myself. I have a big trouble understanding creation kit as I'm not native english speaker and most of those words aint familiar to me at all... Plus, I can't be exactly sure if I want it to do +1% more damage, +2% more damage, +1.5% more damage or even +5% more damage per level, so I was curious how to create that in first case, so I could adjust it myself.

There's one thing you have to look at through all of this though: and that's who is making the mod. I can completely see your viewpoint, hence why most of my mods at least attempt to give the illusion of scaling; and some of them do it quite well if I might say so myself. It makes it so you feel like you're getting better, within reason.
That being said, asking someone to make a mod and getting a response of them not liking the concept; there's not a whole lot you can do. Outside of learning the Creation Kit and making it yourself.

But anyway, I really hate all this "perk" scalling system, I'd rather increase the power by level you gain, that would make it be more interesting. In perk, i'd rather have some new abilities added to magic instead.

For the second, only because the mass mindset has been convinced itself with time after all other annoying rpg games where leveling is rather life-wasting process that the leveling supposed to be raised massively in geometrical progression with each level, yet have same +10hp buff (for example) other than health increase goes in geometrical progression and exp request for next level goes the same +10% exp increase with each level. So why not break this annoying "rule" that rpg players with close minded created for themselves and force us to look on things the same way as they are??? After all, Skyrim is not technically an "RPG", but rather a 3D action FP(S) game. Same goes in real life, when you try to learn playing piano, it's really hard in the begining, but once you learn the basic, you start to learn much quicker, and once you mastering it, it became really easy to learn futher, and so there it is. And I say this, because I actuality play some piano. :P

I'm fully and completely disagree that it's not balanced. First of all, all most fun spells are concentration one, and concentration spells in unique ability of Skyrim that wasn't in any other TES games, yet there only novice spells that have them, so even with overbuffed flares, playing it at high level against really tough enemies, on hardest possible difficulty or an real once, is still will be do meh damage (though, I bet having constantly burning your face or have 60.000 megawatts constantly shotting at you, wouldn't just scratch your back...

To be honest, that is not quite something I'd be interested in making, just due to the complete lack of balance at that point. To do such a thing though, you would have to set it based on a perk. As I've not worked on making anything scale with skill level, I can't quite say I'd know how to do it.

I want an overpowered scalling, the higher level you are, the higher scalling you get, something that depends on the destruction and restoration level. For example, I wish with every destruction level I got, I'll get +2% more damage, that does adds to preveous level, using this simple formula - MagicDamage * 1.02 ^ destruction level. So, with this simple formula, an spell that does 50 damage at level 50 destruction will do 50*1.02%^50 = 573.369.......... And, maybe some other things to scale. :P

Thaaat would depend on what you're looking for there Jitterskull.

Can you please make an magic scaling mod for me, or teach me how to do it??

And it remains balanced, because even without mods, by utilitizing a few known glitches/crafting techniques, weapon damage can be insane, while spell damage had no way to get better. This makes destruction fairly on par with weapons end-game, at the cost of extra perks, instead of just giving you free damage. Granted, perks are super easy to get free...but still.

Just wanted to say, your block and destruction overhaul mods were exactly what I was wanting in skyrim. There may be lots of perk mods and such out there but I think yours are very well thought out without breaking the game. Thanks again.

Cool thx man !

Einer der besten modi für skyrim. Sehr gute arbeit. Es macht spaß zu zaubern. Hatte schon einige modis ausprobiert, aber entweder waren sie zu stark oder zu schwach oder haben nicht richtig funktioniert. Aber dieser ist genau richtig.

i love the rune max increase!

Thank you!!

As long as they are set up to use to vanilla Elemental Potency Perks(basically they need to have specific keywords in the spell window), then it should absolutely effect them. If not, thennnn no.

Does this mod afect the damage of mods like midas magic?

I've not been keeping up as much as I ought to.. Also I'm hesitant to force a requirement for DLC's.

i went ahead and put all 5 magic overhauls into a collection
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=182605420


also remu, are you still still keeping these mods up to date with the latest versions of skyrim? i only ask because as far as i can tell, you're the only one who has a comprehensive magic system overhaul. without these mods, i don't think it's possible to play as a mage.

Why thank you haha ^.^

If I can't have this mod, I won't bother playing a mage--this may be the best mod ever to happen to skyrim!!
Thank You.

love it but can u update it to make the number of runes higher then just three? like 10?

just the mod i was looking for, thank you

wanted to just say, great job on the damage. its not stupidly OP where it just 1 shots a dragon or other high ranked creatures. this is one of the better destruction mods out there. thanks for making it. ^_^

Well, the adding of three was my workaround to being able to add in a perk. I am still looking around for a way to mod it through a perk, if I can, I will be adding in additional traps; but for now this is the best I can do sadly.

i actualy like doing traps but i realy wanna do it like crazy unlimitedly three well that seems short term and only if you know someone is going to be walking there but crazey is like no telling when an animal might stumble in the mine feild of ruines and there should probly be a teleport ruine transporting all to a specified trap or cave or house of your choice that would be cool

Ahhh okay, thanks for the clarification. ^.^

Its the enhanced leveling mod that does it. once I removed it, destruction levels up the same as all the other skills.

Hmm. Slowed down? That would make no sense with the Mage stone and this mod, as I didn't touch the experience table at all. I can't say I've used Enhanced Leveling before, but that would be my first guess as to what's messing with things.