no oghuz group? i don't know if you're aware but tons of turks are able to speak to eachother even today. i once saw an anatolian turk and a crimean tatar hold conversation without a translator

Is this still compatible with M&T 3.0?

Hey does this mod change how culture spreads?

No problem man.

Of course, don't get me wrong, I was just wondering after seeing the last comment, wasn't saying it in a "demanding" way

I'll look into it, but no promises yet. Life's been hard lately, i hope you can wait.

so? seems to be stable now that they released 3.0

Yeah, most likely. Updating this every other patch is a pain in the ass. Hopefully with a stable release I can make a good update that will last longer.

There probably won't be an update until there's a public release of 3.0.

any news? :c

Any progress?

Hey everyone. Sorry for a long hiatus. Let's just say Life has put me out of modding business for quite some time. I'm not dead, I'm just out of the loop. I'd like to return to this project at some point, but it would also require a more stable M&T release, especially considering the latest EU4 patches and DLC's. Most notably the latter one. Just know that I'm still out there.

is there an update planned for the current version of meiou in 1.29?

update plea #4

any chance you can update this mod? Armenian culture is gone :(

This is soo wrong. Seperating the Altaic group is wrong.

News on update?

oi where's the bloody update.

Danwar - It'd be great, but the problem is - it may be out of my hands, considering the M&T overall design. I'll see what i can do, but I guess I'll have to talk to devs first.

I have a suggestion for the 'macro culture group' thing. Maybe when you conquer a province of a macro group,you get a modifier reducing the different culture group penalties by half? Like it'd reduce the unrest in a province by half the amount of the unrest added, ect.

thanks!

Sorry that I took another 2 weeks - I'll upload soon.

mdk31 - I already expressed my gratitude personally, but if anyone reads comments anymore, I'll be updating the mod with mdk31's files soon. No words can easily convey my feelings. Thanks old chap.

Hey Revan, I've done some work to update the mod to the current MEIOU version. Add me if you'd like me to send you what I did.

sidious307 - All in due time. I need a really stable M&T version, so I don't have to update often. Real life takes a lot of time. Mod isn't compatible right now.

please update a mostefor me

does it compatile more immmersivesumod y the way ?

also, does it save compatile ?

Yeah I guess, I won't get to play m&t anyways until i get a better computer lol

armzngunz - it's not updated. Unfortunately current version of m&t is very unstable, i crash all the time. Autosave cleaning doesn't help. I can still update it now, but I would also have to do new update when they fix it all.

So sad, armenian culture is just "noculture" when this is enabled :(

Re:Zz - Yes. Have Faith. I've waited for M&T to update properly and make it all work. Soon it'll be stable and I'll make a full update.

is this gonna get updated?

Gregory IX - If you refer to the submod - it's not updated for the current version of M&T.

There are some regions that have no cultures

armzngunz - I'm not sure whether the submod causes crashes, but it wasn't updated a long time and not fully compatible with newest version of M&T. However the problem is that M&T is not playable for me right now, as it crashes on launch. Gigau said to disable Mandate of Heaven, but it doesn't work for me either - only thing left is waiting for a patch.

Whats this talk about crashing? I want to use this mod, would be a shame if it causes a crash...

Cpt. Communism - I said claim because I didn't even know about that and I couldn't check what you're saying, because game crashes on launch, and we're waiting for fix from gigau. I'll gladly look in this, but as I'm not that knowledgeable on Germany in particular, as well as many other regions, I'm greatly relying on people like you to point this out. Thanks, I'll see what I can do.

@Revan Thanks for you quick response. But what do you mean with checking my claim? My issue is that Ripuarian Franconian is, in this mod and in the original MEIOU, a part of the Low German group, in OTL it is a (West-)Middle German dialect, like Hessian so it should be part of the High German culture group. As you're not able to work on the issue, I'll just wait. Keep up the good work!

Cpt. Communism - The submod wasn't updated in some time, putting it mildly, and because of the bug that crashes M&T, I can neither check your claim, not work on it. Waiting for updates.

Question: Why is Ripuarian still part of the Low German group even though it is High German?

Holz - the answer turned out to be too long for steam comment section, please check out ''Suggestions'' discussion thread.

There is an interesting concept in linguistics called Sprachbund which can be summed up with the phrase "one grammar with the three lexicons". It makes so that languages from any family have similar grammar as long as there is enough contact. An example of this is Albanian, Bulgarian and Romanian. This goes beyond grammar, it also affects phonology, even if Breton and Cornish are closely related, Breton sounds a lot more like French and Cornish a lot more like English
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprachbund

This gives me the feeling that this is perhaps what the Eu4 developers were going for when they organized cultures by regions and not by genealogy. In my opinion it would be more realistic if we had both a culture map mode (somewhat similar to vanilla) and a language map mode (with the actual language families)

[PBS] Revan

okay, I understand you..

I'm waiting your update

Tatar Boztorgai Khan - not yet

my wife's bf - I'll see what I can do, but as far as I'm aware, many historical sources support the dev's approach. I'll have to do more research and discuss it on the forum first. The biggest problem, as far as I understand, would be the displacement of bosnian culture provinces in the region, as there were serbs and croats too - generally speaking there's not enough info. We better know where territoriality post-ottoman Muslim Bosnian come from though, so it's an easier solution.

is there a update for 1.28 version ?

That's really weird, it doesn't make much sense. You don't have to, but it would be really awesome if you put in a Bosnian ethnicity directly at the beginning.

Danwar - Thanks! ALtough I'll have to scrap some of the things I did already, but patch for a new update is always better.

шутка. - Bosnian ethnicity is present in the base game, but not in 1356. The decision is questionable in my opinion, but the devs decided to go croatioan\serbian mixture for old Bosnia, with Bosnian as a separate culture being a result of Ottoman rule and spreado of islam in the region. It appears later in the game if ottomans proceed to conquer balkans.

Is there a bosnian ethnicity?

MEIOU released a new update as well recently. Might wanna check that out.

Oh, thanks for the answer! and good luck updating it!

悲しい Prand - It's both easier and harder then you think. I wasted this weekend, but I'll try to bring one up soon. Personal problems and life make me rather... forgetful at times, unfortunately. One thing certain - it will be up before the new year. Hopefully before christmas, but who knows.