Bot vs Bot - Weapon Comparisons

This is a 5v5 Bot vs Bot Weapon comparison guide. In this guide I will show how well certain weapons match up against their counterpart as well as other popular weapons.

Intro

With the recent update ( 02-05-2014 ) many have been voicing their opinion on how Weapon A is overpowered, or Weapon B is overpowered etc etc..

I am going to set up a test server with the following:

• 5v5 Armsrace / Casual Mode with only 1 weapon per team ( 50 kills ) have plans to do 100,500 and 1000 kill rounds
  
• Friendly Fire On
  
• Unlimited Ammo ( must still reload )
  
• Bots set to difficulty level 3
  
• Bots modified to adjust for recoil depending on weapon used.

All Bots are set up with the following config:

• Rank = 850
  
• Aggression = 10
  
• ReactionTime = 0.1
  
• AttackDelay = .1
  
• Cost = 1
  
• Difficulty = NORMAL
  
• AimFocusInitial = 1
  
• AimFocusDecay = 0.05
  
• AimFocusOffsetScale = 0.02
  
• AimfocusInterval = 0.02

Many will say this will not show the true strength, but it is the closest we can get. In the hands of the bots, both weapons will have the same advantage/disadvantage.

And yes, recoil plays a role in weapon choice, but the ability to control it is 'player skill' based'.

I will do multiple maps using the same weapon scheme, trying to show long range / mid range / close range results.

I also am NOT confirming NOR denying that a weapon is OP at this time. I simply would like to perform tests that have a neutral 'player skill' baseline before I make ANY decisions or conclusions!

:)

AUG vs SG553

The update greatly increased the usage of the AUG and the SG553. With the stat advantage as follows :

• Damage - Advantage None ( AUG 6/26 vs SG553 6/26 )
  
• Firerate - Advantage AUG 20/26 vs SG553 17/26
  
• Accuracy - Advantage SG553 14/26 vs AUG 13/26
  
• Movement Rate - Advantage AUG 21/26 vs SG553 18/26
  
• Armor Penetration - Advantage SG553 26/26 vs AUG 24/26
  
• Price - Advantage SG533 $3000 vs AUG $3300
  
• Reload - Advantage SG533 2 secs vs AUG 3 secs
  
• Special - Advantage None ( AUG Zoom vs SG553 Zoom )

AUG Spray Pattern
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=227396722

SG553 Spray Pattern
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=227396768


The results of the 50 kill round were as follows:
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ar_monestary

AUG
• Total Kills - 220

SG553
• Total Kills - 209

In ar_monestary the slight advantage goes to the

AUG

with a combination of long/mid/close range combat.

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ar_shoots

AUG
• Total Kills - 203

SG533
• Total Kills - 219

With its mid/close range fighting arena, ar_shoots favors the higher damage of the

SG533

.... 3 bots wielding the SG533 had a positive k/d ratio while only 1 bot wielding the AUG had a positive k/d ratio.

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ar_baggage

AUG
• Total Kills - 161

SG533
• Total Kills - 189

The extra damage by the

SG533

seems to give a bigger advantage in ar_baggage, a smaller, more open map.

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de_dust2

AUG
• Total Kills - 134

SG553
• Total Kills - 136

The 30 minute time limit ran out before any bot could accumulate 50 kills :) With the ability to 1 shot headshot, and the increased range, the

SG553

squeaks out a tiny advantage on de_dust2.

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AUG vs AK-47

The tried and true AK-47 Stats match up against the Upgraded AUG as follows:

• Damage - Advantage AK-47 8/26 vs AUG 6/26
  
• Firerate - Advantage AUG 20/26 vs AK-47 15/26
  
• Accuracy - Advantage AUG 13/26 vs AK-47 8/26
  
• Movement Rate - Advantage AUG 21/26 vs AK-47 19/26
  
• Armor Penetration - Advantage AUG 24/26 vs AK-47 20/26
  
• Price - Advantage AK-47 $2700 vs AUG $3300
  
• Reload - Advantage AK-47 2 secs vs AUG 3 secs
  
• Special - Advantage AUG Zoom vs AK-47 N/A

The results of the 50 kill round were as follows:
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ar_shoots

AUG
• Total Kills - 213

AK-47
• Total Kills - 180

On this map, the superior firerate, accuracy, movement rate, armor penetration, and zoom leave the

AUG

as the clear winner. 4 members of the CT team using the AUG were able to sustain a positive k/d ratio while 0 of the Ts using AK-47s were able to so.

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SG553 vs M4A1-S

The trusty M4A1-S stats match up the upgraded SG553 as follows:

• Damage - Advantage M4A1-S 7/26 vs SG553 6/26
  
• Firerate - Advantage None M4A1-S 17/26 vs SG553 17/26
  
• Accuracy - Advantage SG553 14/26 vs M4A1-S 11/26
  
• Movement Rate - Advantage M4A1-S 22/26 vs SG553 18/26
  
• Armor Penetration - Advantage SG553 26/26 vs M4A1-S 19/26
  
• Price - Advantage M4A1-S $2900 vs SG553 $3000
  
• Reload - Advantage None ( 2 secs each )
  
• Special - Advantage None ( Zoom vs Silencer )

The results of the 50 kill round were as follows:
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ar_shoots

SG553
• Total Kills - 189

M4A1-S
• Total Kills - 174

I had to use 'Casual Mode' in order to get the Bots to use the silenced weapon, same configs just different mode.

Although close, the

SG553

wins over the M4A1-S. The frequent reload of the M4A1-S seemed to hurt their wielders. ( had to reload 1/3 more often than the SG553 )

AK-47 vs M4A1-S

Two of most used weapons compare head to head with the follow stats:

• Damage - Advantage AK-47 8/26 vs M4A1-S 7/26
  
• Firerate - Advantage M4A1-S 17/26 vs AK-47 15/26
  
• Accuracy - Advantage M4A1-S 11/26 vs AK-47 8/26
  
• Movement Rate - Advantage M4A1-S 22/26 vs AK-47 19/26
  
• Armor Penetration - Advantage AK-47 20/26 vs M4A1-S 19/26
  
• Price - Advantage AK-47 $2700 vs M4A1-S $2900
  
• Reload - Advantage None ( 2 secs each )
  
• Special - Advantage M4A1-S Silencer vs AK-47 N/A

The results of the 50 kill round were as follows:
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ar_shoots

AK-47
• Total Kills - 162

M4A1-S
• Total Kills - 131

With its slightly stronger damage & armor penetration, the

AK-47

comes out on top here. Again, the M4A1-S's magazine capacity tended to hinder the users.

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AK-47 vs M4A4

Two of most used weapons compare head to head with the follow stats:

• Damage - Advantage AK-47 8/26 vs M4A4 7/26
  
• Firerate - Advantage M4A4 17/26 vs AK-47 15/26
  
• Accuracy - Advantage M4A4 11/26 vs AK-47 8/26
  
• Movement Rate - Advantage M4A4 22/26 vs AK-47 19/26
  
• Armor Penetration - Advantage AK-47 20/26 vs M4A4 19/26
  
• Price - Advantage AK-47 $2700 vs M4A4 $3100
  
• Reload - Advantage None ( 2 secs each )
  
• Special - Advantage None

The results of the 50 kill round were as follows:
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ar_shoots

AK-47
• Total Kills - 195

M4A4
• Total Kills - 221

With a larger capacity magazine then its silenced counterpart, the

M4A4

trumps the AK-47 here.. The ability to fire 1/3 of the time longer before having to reload seemed to work in their favor. With 4 players able to keep a positive k/d ratio over the AK-47, which only had 1 person with a positive k/d ratio.

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M4A4 vs M4A1-S

Brother against Brother compare head to head stats:

• Damage - Advantage None ( M4A4 7/26 vs M4A1-S 7/26 )
  
• Firerate - Advantage None ( M4A4 17/26 vs M4A1-S 17/26 )
  
• Accuracy - Advantage M4A1-S ( less recoil ) 11/26 vs M4A4 11/26
  
• Movement Rate - Advantage None ( M4A4 22/26 vs M4A1-S 22/26 )
  
• Armor Penetration - Advantage None ( M4A4 19/26 vs M4A1-S 19/26 )
  
• Price - Advantage M4A1-S $2900 vs M4A4 $3100
  
• Reload - Advantage None ( 2 secs each )
  
• Special - Advantage None ( M4A1-S Silencer vs M4A4 Larger Clip )

The results of the 50 kill round were as follows:
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ar_shoots

M4A4
• Total Kills - 232

M4A1-S
• Total Kills - 222

From the other test results above, I expected this margin to be a little bigger, the

M4A4

does come out on top though. To me, this choice is decided on your style of play. If you are fine with having a 20 round clip and prefer to be quieter, chose the M4A1-S. If you find yourself running out of ammo to often, and dont mind being louder, chose the M4A4.

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Since this was such a close battle, I let the Bots keep playing, screenshotting it at the 150 kill marker. Here are the results:

M4A4
• Total Kills - 706

M4A1-S
• Total Kills - 657

With 3 times the more kills before collecting data, we could chart a graph to see how the race is going.



As you see from the graph, the M4A4 is steadily pulling away at a consistent rate. I will keep the Bots going and add more data to the chart as it comes in.

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AUG vs P90

The upgraded stats of the AUG make a lot of people refer to it as P90 on steroids. The Stat advantages are as follows:

• Damage - Advantage AUG 6/26 vs P90 5/26
  
• Firerate - Advantage P90 22/26 vs AUG 21/26
  
• Accuracy - Advantage AUG 13/26 vs P90 4/26
  
• Movement Rate - Advantage P90 23/26 vs AUG 21/26
  
• Armor Penetration - Advantage Aug 24/26 vs P90 17/16
  
• Price - Advantage P90 $2350 vs AUG $3300
  
• Reload - Advantage AUG ( by about 1/2 second )
  
• Special - Advantage AUG ( zoom )

The results of the 50 kill rounds were as follows:
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ar_shoots

AUG
• Total Kills - 210

P90
• Total Kills - 158

This was basically a massacre ... with the advantage going to the

AUG

.. 4 AUG wielders were able to maintain a positive k/d ratio with only 1 P90 user able to do so.

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SG533 vs P90

Coming Soon !

P90 vs PP-Bizon

Coming Soon !

P90 vs MAC10

Coming Soon !

USP vs USP-S

Coming Soon !

Glock vs USP

Coming Soon !

Glock vs P2000

Coming Soon !

SSG08 vs AWP

Coming Soon !

SCAR-20 vs G3SG1

Coming Soon !

Famas vs Galil

Coming Soon !

Nova vs XM104

Coming Soon !

Scorecard

This area will be updated with stats as they are finished. This will be a running tally of 'wins'.

AUG vs SG533

• AUG - 1
  
• SG533 - 3

AUG vs AK-47

• AUG - 1
  
• AK-47 - 0

SG553 vs M4A1-S

• Sg553 - 1
  
• M4A1-S - 0

AK-47 vs M4A1-S

• AK-47 - 1
  
• M4A1-S - 0

AK-47 vs M4A4

• AK-47 - 0
  
• M4A4 - 1

M4A4 vs M4A1-S

• M4A4 - 1
  
• M4A1-S - 0

AUG vs P90

• Aug - 1
  
• P90 - 0

Starting to see a pattern on what is greater than what. Seems as though there is a circular ladder progression.

Notes

Rate & Favorite this guide for continual updates and information ! If you would like to see certain weapons matched up, or certain maps used, please leave a comment with your suggestion and I will get to it as soon as I can !

Thanks!

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Other Guides

Here is a list of my other guides you may find interesting. Don't forget to rate / favorite and leave a comment !! Thanks !!

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=221887172

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=222673983

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=223999352

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[AeeN]

ty helped me alot

[FillanTroop]

Finally at least something to think about, when selecting a weapon. Don't get bothered by all those trolls here. Thanks

[Undercover Cactus]

can you do a mag-7 vs sawed-off?
They're t and ct counterparts so that's more what I'm interested it

[Sledge_Builder]

Good stuff dude... Could you make a Tec-9 vs Five-SeveN plz?

[Provocation]

Good guide.
Please don't forget the UMP-45, or the Negev/MAG-7/Sawed off.

[Varios]

add p200 vs usp-s please

[8Z]

That must be a lot of testing. Hope to see the AK - M4A1S and M4A4 - M4A1S on different maps.(Because I personally LOVE M4A1-S, don't ask why.)
Also, mac10 - mp9?

[ZánÐêr]

and.. the title says bot vs bot....that never changed... if you cant understand what that means, I cant help you..

[ZánÐêr]

haha... keep trolling :)

[walrus]

I definetly read your last commend that you decided to delete when you realised I was right (thus why my last comment looks like a response). I also read when it said that bots apparently take out the skill factor COMPLETELY. Do you have the ability to delete comments posted by others? If so, I would delete mine since you seem so intent on hiding the fact that you were wrong. Deleting comments to avoid mistakes is low.