PAYDAY 2

PAYDAY 2

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Stoic no FAK build [DS+OD]
By uncle geldgeil
First of all I have to say, if you never played Stoic Perk deck before, I recon you should try a different Stoic build first that does feature First aid kits (FAK's), because otherwise this Build may seem horrible for you at the start.
This Build requires at least level III-100.
   
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Inspire ace of course, reached with either medic bags or First Aid Kits (FAK's), depending what you prefer. However your deployable should not be both of those, only if you really need to take healing deployables.
Convert skills and Hostage Taker for HP regeneration.
Enforcer
Iron Man aced for a big amount of HP.
Ammo bags as your supposed deployable to bring.
Technician
Just Steady Grip for better accuracy and stability.
Ghost
Minor Parkour skills since you already get movement from converts.
High Value Target ace to kill dozers and other specials out of a more far range.
Optical Illusions in hopes less enemies aim you.
Fugitive
Since this is a Stoic build I have come to not die often if even in a heist, so I see it as a waste of skill points to go for nine lives ace.
Also lets not talk about swan song or something... Its useless
Weapons
Primary weapon I prefer to use is any DMR-Kit Rifle such as the Car4 or AMR16.
I already use ammo bags for the rocket launcher, so why not bring a high damage primary weapon as well that needs some ammo from bags.
I do however go for an LMG sometimes but only if I know I will have ammo issues if I used a DMR weapon during a heist (especially when it comes to like overdrill or any other longer heist).
Mods for the weapon is the DMR-Kit of course and basicly the best accuracy and stability you can go for (AMR16 has actually better stats than the Car4, but I like to use it considering I fell in love with that skin)
Now with the Commando Rocket Launcher is where you will do the most damage output.
Best way to do so is with the help of Bulletstorm skill ace (after taking ammo from an ammo bag will give you infinite ammo for a short time depending how much ammo you took from the bag) and while having at least 1 rocket in the magazine to not get an unneeded reload. With that you are able to get up to 15 seconds of spraying that Commando. Just be sure you do not hit your teammates.

Melee does not really matter what you use, I like to bring tasers.

Throwable is self explaining I guess?
Tips from my side
Main way I deal damage with this build is with the Commando while I have my flask, after I used the flask I instantly go in cover again to avoid getting overtime damage. Overtime damage is the main problem you will encounter with this build, since you do not have FAK's to deal with that. Long story short do not go in any open fields while cooldown on the flask. However you can overcome this problem with the Commando with well shot rockets to gain the flask again quite fast (1 kill reduces cooldown by 1 second).

The Commando should be used to kill crowds of cops within seconds, while the primary should be used against Bulldozers and just single cops running around where the Commando is a waste to use against.

Biggest threat for you are cloakers and tasers. If you die somehow, be sure you search up cover instantly and try to regenerate HP from Hostake Taker after you got revived. You can increase this by using the flask in the right time after getting damage. That will give you more HP.

Always try to have a spot where you can go in cover, regardless of the situation. You need this to have a safe spot to gain the flask again and get rid of overtime damage. Without this you are guaranteed to have a spot in the custody.
End
I have many more builds that I showed in a single video, including this one. But I did not really go in detail with the builds so I though about making this guide. Afterall this is my main loud Death Sentence build and I want to share it in a better way. I have also included a bit of a montage at the end of the video (16:35) here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMOws3ZHEo0

Please leave your thoughts about this build in the comments, and if you have any questions feel free to ask

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20 Comments
Sep Nov 16, 2019 @ 9:24am 
Quite true, at least Stoic with Commando ain't overused it as much as it did.

And considering that Combat Doctor is learn just to unlock Inspire. Instead of learning Combat Doctor, you can ace tier 1 & tier 2 skill of Medic tree.

Doing so would at least optimize it a bit further since your teammates would be revive with extra 3% health. :p
uncle geldgeil  [author] Nov 16, 2019 @ 9:20am 
Stoic FAK is overused if you ask me
Sep Nov 16, 2019 @ 9:17am 
Instead of Quick Fix, go for Painkillers since you only use ammo bag.
Die Hard ace doesn't work with ICTV but Transporter ace work with Stoic even with Stoic 9/9.

Quite a solid build albeit a 9 skill point was wasted at Combat Doctor, it cannot be help.

And.....

I won't exactly called Stoic with Commando a non-meta.. is a bit overused if you ask me.. :p
uncle geldgeil  [author] Nov 15, 2019 @ 10:58pm 
Ty for trying to help tho
uncle geldgeil  [author] Nov 15, 2019 @ 10:57pm 
I am using only 1 deployable tho, yes I went for medic bags just for the sake of inspire so that people wont cry around. Then you say I need to remove iron man ace for more HP? What. Why would I want to use HTV just for the sake of bringing another deployable? You can have a team as well, just saying. Also if you need then go for medic bag or FAK instead of ammo bag... And yes die hard is a bit stupid but the basic version seems to be the better option to go up the skill tree. Also resilience isnt that needes since you know... You can shot flashbangs.
Scientist Nov 15, 2019 @ 9:36pm 
While also giving you a chance to use more skill points in other things that are useful.
Scientist Nov 15, 2019 @ 9:34pm 
Die hard aced doesn't work with ICTV, use jack of all trades aced if you're using 2 aced deployables, you should probably ace resilience, you could unace ironman to have more health and speed and use the HTV
uncle geldgeil  [author] Nov 15, 2019 @ 1:47pm 
I tried to go for a unique build on stoic that just isnt a overused meta build. I guess this build here is the perfect example of my thoughts. Hope you will enjoy it ;)
.exan Nov 15, 2019 @ 1:30pm 
Pretty interesting Build, gonna try it out later :)
Gonna message again if this will be my go to Build
The biggest part that caught my eyes was that this is different... no stupid Shotgun Run and Gun meta and no Thanatos/Crossbow whatever Meta
uncle geldgeil  [author] Nov 15, 2019 @ 3:37am 
Hey this isnt ur average anarchist shitgun build or stoic meta. Its unique and before you say bs try it urself ;)