Love to Chandragupta <3

Scotland is average not strong

@Uncle Ben, Need's Love is about as low as it goes, and she's better than Eleanor

@Raydon766, I can understand why people would disagree, these 3 play quite differently than more straight forward Civs.

Reminder, this is an Amalgamation tier list. This means that if a Civ does really really well in at least 2 Victory conditions, it reaches Busted.

If it only does well in a single Victory condition or does above average in multiple condition, its generally in Strong.

Unless that single Victory condition is Domination, in which case it falls to Average... or its just doesn't do any Victory condition better than the majority of its competition.

Eleanor ... oof

seriously? you fr?

Portugal and Spain in the busted tier. This is amazing to see someone who agrees with me.

Putting Georgia anywhere above f is a sign you might be lying to yourself

if 2/3 of the civs are in the top two tiers, then you needa space them out a bit or add more tiers. just saying

I'll be honest. Domination is the one victory condition I never use. Cultural, political, especially science. Those I like. In war I fight defensively, to protect my own. I never take the AI's cities unless I need growing space, and on the right maps, I always have enough to be one of the larger civs without having to take over other cities. So for me I am certain I would use much different criteria than the op.

Just because you don't need war to win a domination victory doesn't make the civ good, in fact Eleanor is way worse than just going for someone like Korea to get an early unit advantage, Babylon for the same reason, or just alaxander for the insane units, but at the end of the day as long as you know what you're doing and what units to use, you'll be fine in war, at least against the AI, but at the same time, any player with more than 50 hours on the game will understand how to counter eleanor, meaning in the one niche where war isn't better - she's still not that great. Pacifist domination is a meme/challenge run, no more.

If you add secret societies on, Eleanor becomes absolutely insane however when combined with the voidsingers, due to the massive loyalty bonuses, and the free relics bolstering her abilities, making pacifist domination less a matter of skill or strategy and more one of time.