REQUEST: SteamOS download through Torrent only

[R.A.W.Agent]

Dear Steam/Valve,

Please release the SteamOS through Torrents only.
and pls make sure to include as many Open-Trackers as possible.
(I will give you an Open-Tracker running in our college server)

So that we get max bandwidth through our 700kbps line.

If direct download then, it will take days.... :(

[disulfiram]

I think Linux distributions are way smaller in size than windows 7 or 8. Maybe even less than a gigabyte?

[Dinosawer]

disulfiram původně napsal:

I think Linux distributions are way smaller in size than windows 7 or 8. Maybe even less than a gigabyte?

Ubuntu is about 785 mb. Lighterweight linuxes sometimes fit on a regular cd (less than 700 mb).

[paulcd2000]

If it's open source (or just licensed appropriately), you can always make a torrent of it yourself. Also, torrents aren't magically faster than direct downloads; if your pipe is saturated, it's saturated. If you can only download at 700 kbps, it doesn't matter whether you're getting data from one source or 100, you're only going to get 700 kbps of data. Actually, torrenting will probably be slower, because there's more overhead, and valve is very good at direct download speeds (I've downloaded steam games at 20 MB/s when I was on a college campus).

[Dystopian]

R.A.W.Agent původně napsal:

Please release the SteamOS through Torrents only.
and pls make sure to include as many Open-Trackers as possible.
(I will give you an Open-Tracker running in our college server)

So that we get max bandwidth through our 700kbps line.

If direct download then, it will take days.... :(

Why the hell should a Torrent Download be faster than Direct Downloads?
With my VDSL Connection I always use Direct Downloads, while the most seeds are too slow.

@linux dist size:
Net Images are 100-250Mb large
minimal ISO's are 200-400Mb
Alternate Installers are often 600-700
And Desktop/Live ISO's are 650Mb - 4,5Gb

[VivienV]

It's hard to say given there has been no technical details released yet, but I find it hard to believe it will be over 1GB.

Everything so far leads me to think it will be a very stripped down Linux environment, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's only a couple hundred MBs. One of the heaviest components in a standard Linux install is the DE + software like office suites, image editors, web browsers, etc.

Evidence suggests that the Steam Client is taking over lots of DE-specific tasks, so probably they'll only use a lightweight window manager (and there's some pretty lightweight WMs out there, dwm is only 20KB) or roll their own. And I very much doubt they'll include stuff like Libreoffice or Gimp or Thunderbird.

[angryoptimist]

lvl6_laser_lol původně napsal:

R.A.W.Agent původně napsal:

Please release the SteamOS through Torrents only.
and pls make sure to include as many Open-Trackers as possible.
(I will give you an Open-Tracker running in our college server)

So that we get max bandwidth through our 700kbps line.

If direct download then, it will take days.... :(

Why the hell should a Torrent Download be faster than Direct Downloads?
With my VDSL Connection I always use Direct Downloads, while the most seeds are too slow.

@linux dist size:
Net Images are 100-250Mb large
minimal ISO's are 200-400Mb
Alternate Installers are often 600-700
And Desktop/Live ISO's are 650Mb - 4,5Gb

Well, that's just the way it is in the Linux world (and my experiences are similar to yours; I don't go with the torrents, usually). I suspect it's because a lot of people aren't bothering with torrents when they grab a distro (I usually go to netinst CDs whenever possible, myself).

The Windows and Mac worlds think differently, though, and throughput is generally very good on a popular torrent, which I imagine a lot of Windows/Mac users would go to. I have no doubt that SteamOS, when it's released, will generate a lot of initial interest (esp. if they have a live CD); if they provide a torrent, it'll probably be well-seeded enough to saturate anyone's downstream bandwidth.

[danman]

You do realize that Valve has a planet-wide server farm to run the Steam services on, don't you?

[blackout24]

danman původně napsal:

You do realize that Valve has a planet-wide server farm to run the Steam services on, don't you?

There are 5 content delivery servers for Germany alone in different cities. As someone already said Bittorrent doesn't overlock your internet.

[Cosmo]

...Well, please don't make it torrent only, there is something (yet undetermined) wrong with my network (probably a ISP thing as it spans several modems). long story short my max torrent download speed is 0.01kbps, despite an apparent upload speed around 60kbps. The majority of proof for this comes from the fact other people who have visited also can't torrent, only to go home and torrent fine.

I categorically cannot torrent, it takes an entire week to get a gb downloaded. :\

[borg_7_of_9]

I think the OP has downloaded one to many torrents... Ill take a direct DL from my service provider who also happens to host steam - thank u 3FL AUS..

In the end the limit is your connection speed unless the servers are flooded..

[ReBoot]

R.A.W.Agent původně napsal:

Dear Steam/Valve,

Please release the SteamOS through Torrents only.
and pls make sure to include as many Open-Trackers as possible.
(I will give you an Open-Tracker running in our college server)

So that we get max bandwidth through our 700kbps line.

If direct download then, it will take days.... :(

Are you friggin' kidding? Torrent only? Yeah, sure. Torrent as an option may help but torrent only? You're evil.

[Ness]

No. Torrents can set off your ISP.

[Cosmo]

SonicStormNexus původně napsal:

No. Torrents can set off your ISP.

set off?

[ReBoot]

Cosmo původně napsal:

SonicStormNexus původně napsal:

No. Torrents can set off your ISP.

set off?

Some people make the equation "Torrents==illegal".

[sharkgoesmad]

Imagine a single host serving 100K users who want to download SteamOS all at the same time... It will die of congestion. Compare this to p2p network, which can scale to the amount users... now, isn't torrent actually betta?